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So i forget the exact permutation - but I think we have to lose today's match against Zambia by no more than 3 goals to avoid qualifying for the Cup of Nations.

So checking the score just after half time I see we're already 3-0 down. :sick:

oh dear
 
So i forget the exact permutation - but I think we have to lose today's match against Zambia by no more than 3 goals to avoid qualifying for the Cup of Nations.

So checking the score just after half time I see we're already 3-0 down. :sick:

oh dear

:confused:
 

Yes, and at the beginning of the second half we were already three goals down. I thought you watched football and understood some of this stuff?

We have since pulled back a goal, so if it finishes like this we qualify (I think).
 
Yes, and at the beginning of the second half we were already three goals down. I thought you watched football and understood some of this stuff?

We have since pulled back a goal, so if it finishes like this we qualify (I think).

So if we lose by 3 or more goals we won't qualify?
 
poor Carlos is gonna take some slack for this :(
 
we could have sir alex coaching us would not stop the idiotic goals that came during that zambia game

u can coach and then u can watch your team gift another one goals, not much coaching can do about stupid mistake's on the pitch

we are just lucky 20010 in our country because we would not qualify for it
 
I've been both a soccer player and a fan all my life and I support any sport when our country is playing.

But over the years, I have lost faith in or bafambla-bafambla squad.
Every time they will tell u that we r building a team blah blah.

I watched the Saturday u23 when they were walloped by the Ghanians 3-1 and of course the humiliating BB 3-1 loss to Zambia.

I have concluded that our country players just do not have what it takes to compete - I mean we have the best infrastructures in the continent but we get beaten by the likes of Zambia, which are one of the poorest countries in the world.

Did u see those Ghanians u23 boys (men). they just out-paces the SA team like pop corns in hot fire.

I think it boils down to the way we grew up. We are privileged to be South African and I guess we don't work hard enough to earn the place.

I also believe even th genetically modified and unhealthy/unnatural foods we eat. I mean those Ghanian boys were twice the size of e.g Leboganh Mokoena.
 
or maybe its the way that "skill" is glorified when young black boys are growing up? U dont learn things like arial ball control and finishing and , and , and. How many times have u seen a ball passed from one side of the field to the other (left to right) in the air and the ball controlled properly at the feet? U see that so often when other nations play, yet we cant even pass properly, something that schoolboys in other countries can do.
I just hate playing soccer when we play against a team that doesn't do anything with the ball and tries to shibobo u when they are losing 5-0 and still think they are good. What irritates me even more is when i see people playing without any goals and just try to keep position... Finishing, controlling in the midfield, etc. etc. is not evident.
African skill is important no doubt. But its how u use it that counts. Look at brazil. They use unbelievable skill and beat the rest of the world. Its cos of the way they play soccer when they are young. Our boys dont have the foundation required. Even other african countries like senegal, ghana, etc. are learning to use their skill and play their own style of attacking football and play well internationally. Whereas we have 10 times better facilities than other african countries and brazil, and are 10 times worse than them...
Its sad when we lose like this...

And we cant say its cos of how strong physically Africans are. Look at s.korea, they are pretty short and not so muscular, yet they do brilliantly.
Its about brains, not how strong u are. Their coach took them from nobodies to semifinalists. Its cos they listen to other people and not believe that their brand of football is better than every1 elses. If u are world champions then u can believe it, not if u cant even make the second round of the world cup, worse still cant even qualify for a wc..We think we are very skillful and have natural talent, meanwhile we are just useless.
 
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check this knob blaming the loss on Benni - it was only a matter of time..

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=4&art_id=vn20070910113257156C656385


Benni McCarthy struck his 29th goal for Bafana Bafana to draw level with fellow Capetonian Shaun Bartlett as the all-time leading South African goal-scorer but the nagging question remains: Was it not perhaps his presence that was responsible for the over confident, complacent approach of Carlos Alberto Parreira's men at Newlands on Sunday?

The Bafana players got caught up in the mania of "Benni's Back" and started believing the hype, naively assuming all they had to do was show up and the game was in the bag.

As a result, they idled their way into Sunday's African Cup of Nations qualifying tie against Zambia and paid the ultimate price by being embarrassed 3-1 in front of a 35 000 Newlands crowd.




"When you concede goals like that in the opening 20 minutes, you're never going to come back," Parreira said afterwards. "Three goals were too many. It was unthinkable that we would be beaten like that. It was a disaster.

'It was a disaster'
I can assure you, with other teams I have coached, even Brazil, I have never ever lost a home game as badly as this." Indeed!

In the build-up to the match, Safa-Western Cape president Vernon Seymour said this was an opportunity for Capetonians to emerge from their football lethargy and come out and show their support for Bafana.

Cape Town responded. They came by foot, by car, by taxi, by train, by bus, by hook or by crook. They spent their hard-earned R50, hoping to be entertained by the South African national football team.

The people came... the real Bafana didn't. Instead, in its place, was an unrecognisable football team that failed miserably to do justice to the potential within its ranks.

As an exercise to win over the Mother City's fickle football fans, it was a major disappointment.

After watching the replays its pretty clear our defenders arent even fit for Barnet..
 
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or maybe its the way that "skill" is glorified when young black boys are growing up? U dont learn things like arial ball control and finishing and , and , and. How many times have u seen a ball passed from one side of the field to the other (left to right) in the air and the ball controlled properly at the feet? U see that so often when other nations play, yet we cant even pass properly, something that schoolboys in other countries can do.
I just hate playing soccer when we play against a team that doesn't do anything with the ball and tries to shibobo u when they are losing 5-0 and still think they are good. What irritates me even more is when i see people playing without any goals and just try to keep position... Finishing, controlling in the midfield, etc. etc. is not evident.
African skill is important no doubt. But its how u use it that counts. Look at brazil. They use unbelievable skill and beat the rest of the world. Its cos of the way they play soccer when they are young. Our boys dont have the foundation required. Even other african countries like senegal, ghana, etc. are learning to use their skill and play their own style of attacking football and play well internationally. Whereas we have 10 times better facilities than other african countries and brazil, and are 10 times worse than them...
Its sad when we lose like this...

And we cant say its cos of how strong physically Africans are. Look at s.korea, they are pretty short and not so muscular, yet they do brilliantly.
Its about brains, not how strong u are. Their coach took them from nobodies to semifinalists. Its cos they listen to other people and not believe that their brand of football is better than every1 elses. If u are world champions then u can believe it, not if u cant even make the second round of the world cup, worse still cant even qualify for a wc..We think we are very skillful and have natural talent, meanwhile we are just useless.

Amen to that.
We can't shoot, can't run (lack pace), physically weak, can't pass, how are we ever going to win games.
The psl games paint a gloomy picture. Outstanding players all come from Africa and yet we have not accepted that we as SA suck. It's aimless running with the ball, can't string 5 or more passes without a turnover in possession, games all end with 0-0 draws or 1-0 wins. We have a very long way to go. I mean we are struggling to qualify for Nations Cup how on earth are we going to qualify for the second round of WC?
In the meantime we are wasting R3 million a month on a coach. Talent cannot be bought. Our players need to get proper football training from the young age. Most of us grow up kicking streetball and suddenly convert to the big pitch. There's no tactical awarenes what so ever, hence the aimless running with ball. We should have noticed the difference between Spurs and Chiefs/Pirates. It was a shame. They just walked all over us like we were clueless...
 
SA players are just spoilt. I mean we have every infrastructure u can think of. It reminds me of a boy who grew up in a rich family. He has everything on the table. He doesn't know what is to work hard.

If u look at our previous players (the Teenage Dladlas, Jomos, Ace...), even though it was tough those days, they played their hearts out.

But now, these boys are partying every time, sleeping around, drinking, eating junk food (sphatlo) ad all that.
 
Amen to that.
We can't shoot, can't run (lack pace), physically weak, can't pass, how are we ever going to win games.
The psl games paint a gloomy picture. Outstanding players all come from Africa and yet we have not accepted that we as SA suck. It's aimless running with the ball, can't string 5 or more passes without a turnover in possession, games all end with 0-0 draws or 1-0 wins. We have a very long way to go. I mean we are struggling to qualify for Nations Cup how on earth are we going to qualify for the second round of WC?
In the meantime we are wasting R3 million a month on a coach. Talent cannot be bought. Our players need to get proper football training from the young age. Most of us grow up kicking streetball and suddenly convert to the big pitch. There's no tactical awarenes what so ever, hence the aimless running with ball. We should have noticed the difference between Spurs and Chiefs/Pirates. It was a shame. They just walked all over us like we were clueless...


I think you're being a little hasrh here bra. I mean all outstanding players are from africa?!?!?!

And as for Spurs, You forgot that they were beaten by pirates not too long ago, convincingly at that. Noone was saying that South african football was taking over the world then. In fact some people scolded us for celebrating that win beacause spurs had fielded their "Second string team". This year we've lost to the same team and all of a sudden we're clueless. Come on!
 
I think you're being a little hasrh here bra. I mean all outstanding players are from africa?!?!?!

And as for Spurs, You forgot that they were beaten by pirates not too long ago, convincingly at that. Noone was saying that South african football was taking over the world then. In fact some people scolded us for celebrating that win beacause spurs had fielded their "Second string team". This year we've lost to the same team and all of a sudden we're clueless. Come on!

That's exactly the attitude that drive SA soccer further down into the gutter. We have not achieved anything and yet it's hard to admit that we suck. How can we improve if we still think we are OK?
We almost did not qualify for ANC(scraped through as 2nd best placed loosers), we didn't qualify for champions league, (Sundowns my team, have found it tough in the minor Confederation cup) Amaglug-glug are out of Beijing2008(they were hammered at home as well), top scorer in the league always comes from Zambia or somewhere else...there's basically nothing going right at the moment....
 
That's exactly the attitude that drives SA soccer further down the gutter. We have not achieved anything and yet it's hard to admit that our players are not good enough. How can we improve if we still think we are OK?
We almost did not qualify for ANC(scraped through as 2nd best placed loosers), we didn't qualify for champions league, (Sundowns my team, have found it tough in the minor Confederation cup) Amaglug-glug are out of Beijing2008(they were hammered at home as well), top scorer in the league always comes from Zambia or somewhere else...Niang, Mbesuma, Katongo, there's basically nothing going right for us at the moment....
The best players in Europe come from Africa, but none of those come from SA!!!BTW, Mcarthy is not one of those top players!!!
 
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