Nissan Xtrail owners please help

Mvu

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My mom has the 2016 Nissan X-Trail 1.6dCi LE 4WD Tech and it is giving her the same issue over and over. Once in a while, it comes up with a "start-stop system error" error on the instrument cluster or a "start-stop system malfunction" error. We have taken it to Nissan on a number of occasions and they just say they did a software update to resolve it.

Do any Nissan Xtrail owners experience the same? Any advice? Really frustrating because at times the refuses to start and she must wait for it.

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Have the vehicle battery fully checked. Could be a dead cell in the battery.
 
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Hi guys

My mom has the 2016 Nissan X-Trail 1.6dCi LE 4WD Tech and it is giving her the same issue over and over. Once in a while, it comes up with a "start-stop system error" error on the instrument cluster or a "start-stop system malfunction" error. We have taken it to Nissan on a number of occasions and they just say they did a software update to resolve it.

Do any Nissan Xtrail owners experience the same? Any advice? Really frustrating because at times the refuses to start and she must wait for it.

Thanks

Sounds like a Glowplug issue.

Does the car have issues starting in the cold?

Edit: O nvm, it's the function that switches the car off and start it again in traffic? Not Glowpluggs then, apologies.
 
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Sounds like a Glowplug issue.

Does the car have issues starting in the cold?

No issues starting at all. We will take it into the dealer for a battery test and a diagnosis (again)... She is considering trading it in now because she does feel comfortable driving a car that might malfunction at any time :(
 

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Just to expand on my earlier post. My QashQai has fortunately had perfect reliability with one exception. On one occasion it failed to start one morning. Nissan support sent out a free mechanic who recharged the battery. His diagnosis was the battery had a faulty/dead cell. I have not had any issues thereafter. Since then I left the vehicle in my garage to travel overseas for 2,5 months. I left the battery attached for insurance purposes. When I returned the vehicle started first time. This definitely sounds like an issue with a faulty or dead battery cell, especially with the intermittent nature of the fault. Are you still using the factory fitted battery? Have you replaced the battery at any point? If so does the replacement battery fit the vehicle specs. Then after that I would say comprehensive testing of the battery.
 

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Just to expand on my earlier post. My QashQai has fortunately had perfect reliability with one exception. On one occasion it failed to start one morning. Nissan support sent out a free mechanic who recharged the battery. His diagnosis was the battery had a faulty/dead cell. I have not had any issues thereafter. Since then I left the vehicle in my garage to travel overseas for 2,5 months. I left the battery attached for insurance purposes. When I returned the vehicle started first time. This definitely sounds like an issue with a faulty or dead battery cell, especially with the intermittent nature of the fault. Are you still using the factory fitted battery? Have you replaced the battery at any point? If so does the replacement battery fit the vehicle specs. Then after that I would say comprehensive testing of the battery.

Thanks for the useful info... Still the factory fitted battery (unless it was swapped out at any point). I am also leaning towards the battery after reading reviews and your experience. But then if it is the battery then there must be something wrong with the battery because its been giving this error for some time now... Hopefully out of goodwill Nissan will replace the battery
 

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Thanks for the useful info... Still the factory fitted battery (unless it was swapped out at any point). I am also leaning towards the battery after reading reviews and your experience. But then if it is the battery then there must be something wrong with the battery because its been giving this error for some time now... Hopefully out of goodwill Nissan will replace the battery



Here is some general battery information and includes some basic info of the additional burden of start-stop systems:

BATTERIES CAN BECOME WORN DOWN IN AS LITTLE AS THREE YEARS

Although batteries can last for five years or more when properly cared for, most car batteries will become worn down and inefficient within three years of everyday use in normal conditions.

Just like your computer or smartphone’s battery becomes less efficient with every charge, your car’s battery gradually deteriorates every time it’s charged up by the vehicle’s engine.

After three years, it’s normally time to install a replacement. After four or five years, most car batteries will be almost completely unreliable. Old car batteries can present a number of safety and reliability issues.

Luckily, it’s easy to identify if your car’s battery is nearing the end of its lifespan.

DOES YOUR CAR’S ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
RESPOND LIKE IT SHOULD?

Even a car with a highly defective battery will function properly once it’s running, since much of the charge for the battery will come from the engine.

This makes the best time to test your car’s battery shortly after you switch your vehicle on. Your car can still start quickly, even with a failing battery.

However, features that have significant power demands that are powered by the battery, like headlights, may not function as well as they should.

Try starting your car at night with the headlights switched on. Are they dim? If the headlights look overly dim, put the vehicle in park or neutral and rev the engine. If the battery is failing, the headlights will get brighter as you apply the accelerator.

This is a great way to check if your battery is starting to fail. A completely broken battery is even easier to spot: when you turn the key in the ignition or push your car’s ignition switch, it won’t start at all.

THE NEWER YOUR CAR, THE BIGGER THE STRAIN ON ITS BATTERY

As a general rule, the more sophisticated your car’s on-board computers are, the bigger the strain on its battery. Many new cars have powerful computers that are operating all the time, even when the vehicle itself is parked and switched off.

These computers can draw energy from your car’s battery at a slow, steady rate, wearing it down over time.

Although the charge each computer draws is tiny, the aggregate effect can drain your car’s battery when it sits unused for a long time.

If you use your car infrequently, avoid letting its battery become drained by on-board computer systems by taking it for a short drive — around the block once or twice will do — to recharge its battery every week or two.

CHECK YOUR BATTERY FREQUENTLY TO AVOID BREAKING DOWN

The next time you take your car into the garage for a routine service, make sure to ask for its battery to be checked. Battery wear isn’t always steady — your vehicle’s battery could go from 90% performance to 20% over the course of a few months.

Testing a battery is easy, and every reputable garage or repair shop will have its own set of electronic testers on hand to test yours.

Regular tests can reveal when your battery needs to be replaced and help you avoid embarrassing breakdowns.

If your battery is showing signs of wear and hasn’t been replaced in two or three years, don’t take any risks.

Car batteries are inexpensive, and the small cost of a replacement is worth it to avoid the stress of a roadside breakdown.

CARS WITH STOP-START TECHNOLOGY MAY NEED SPECIAL BATTERIES

Does your car use stop-start technology to save petrol? Cars with engines that are designed to automatically switch off when at a standstill place a greater strain on their batteries than standard vehicles, and often need to use a special battery.

If your car has stop-start technology and you’re replacing its battery yourself, make sure you purchase a suitable replacement.

Your nearest automotive shop will stock a battery designed to accommodate your vehicle’s extra needs. By the way, if you’re replacing your battery yourself — which is quite simple on many cars — it’s important that you dispose of it safely. Find your nearest hazardous waste disposal service and never throw your car battery out with the rest of your rubbish.

CARE FOR YOUR BATTERY WELL TO EXTEND ITS LIFESPAN

Just like driving aggressively will wear down your vehicle’s tyres and brakes, driving without thinking about your battery will reduce its lifespan.

If you take good care of your battery, you’ll be able to get far more life out of it than usual.

Use the following tips to get the most out of your car battery and extend its functional lifespan beyond the standard three-year mark: Service your car frequently to prevent an inefficient engine and other vehicle components from straining the battery;

Never leave your lights or air conditioning on while your vehicle is switched off as they will drain the battery; Drive your car frequently (at least once every week) to prevent the battery from becoming too drained. Check your battery after you’ve driven off road or on a bumpy road, as the impacts can loosen its connections

Make sure your car battery’s terminals and casings are kept clean and free of dirt, dust and grit

IS IT TIME TO REPLACE YOUR CAR’S BATTERY?

When was the last time you replaced your car’s battery? Whether your car works as new or its lights and other electronic devices are starting to show signs of age, there is no bad time to check your battery’s condition. Changing your car’s battery every two to three years will keep it running at its best and help you avoid embarrassing roadside or car park breakdowns.
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Here is some general battery information and includes some basic info of the additional burden of start-stop systems:

This article makes sense and has cleared a lot of things... Many thanks buddy :)
 

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Hi, this might just be a bump.

So I have the 2015 model like the OP, and I experienced the same issues, but in addition I have random loss of power. When it happened the forst time, I took it to the dealership and then kept it overnight and diagnosed it was a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) issues, and that it needed to be cleaned (regenerated). After that it was fine, but here we are, 5500km later, and again the issue crops up... So it's the same as the last time, and they're doing the same thing again... Apparently now they are going to give me a new DPF that *should* resolve things going forward... I think I need to get rid of the vehicle while I still have a service and maintenance plan... IMG_20200123_072331.jpg
 

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Is that 2 check engine lights??

Do you only drive short distances? DPF gets cleaned with doing long distances.
 

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I have a 2017 1.5dci and have experienced this twice. On dealer instructions I took it out on the highway and drove at 4000+ revs until the the DPF gets hot enough to burn away the build-up.

Do you only drive short distances? DPF gets cleaned with doing long distances.

Based on what I observed short distance driving is definitely the main culprit, but to improve fuel consumption the engine cruises at very low revs in 6th on the open road. The heat generated at low revs is not always enough for the DPF to self generate.
 

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I have a 2017 1.5dci and have experienced this twice. On dealer instructions I took it out on the highway and drove at 4000+ revs until the the DPF gets hot enough to burn away the build-up.



Based on what I observed short distance driving is definitely the main culprit, but to improve fuel consumption the engine cruises at very low revs in 6th on the open road. The heat generated at low revs is not always enough for the DPF to self generate.
This sounds like a really dumb problem to have... why make a car like this though...?

Surely should be a proper fix.. or open their eyes to sort the issue out
 

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Turn off stop/start.

It wears out your starter faster. Possibly your battery too.

Every time i get in my car I turn mine off.
 

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This sounds like a really dumb problem to have... why make a car like this though...?

Surely should be a proper fix.. or open their eyes to sort the issue out

$$$

We all know how much manufacturers like to admit to a minor issue in design. Ford's flaming fiasco (anything but minor) and Powersh!t transmission as shining examples.
 

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$$$

We all know how much manufacturers like to admit to a minor issue in design. Ford's flaming fiasco (anything but minor) and Powersh!t transmission as shining examples.
Yea i guess.. But if its early and under warranty they pay:ROFL:
 

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This sounds like a really dumb problem to have... why make a car like this though...?

Surely should be a proper fix.. or open their eyes to sort the issue out

Go watch youtube videos where they remove the DPF from a diesel, thick black soot everywhere.

DPF is the CAT of diesels, its to remove unwanted gasses and soot from the end product of burning diesel. The DPF will get clogged but can get cleaned by put it in dpf cleaner mode via diagnostics or by driving at high revs for long distance as the above user said.
 
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