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http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=571999

Don't know about you all, but R19-00/hour sounds pretty reasonable to me. That's what general cleaners get paid where i work. Works out to R3240-00/month.

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"We are being paid a measly R11 an hour"

That's like R1980-00/month.:confused: Take transport costs off that, say R600-00, that's leaves the guy with R1280-00. I spend a lot more on groceries, but let's say he spends R800-00/ month. He's now left with R480-00. :eek:
 
r11 per hour is ridiculous.
 
About a decade ago when I was in the UK working as a builders mate (fancy name for a labourer) I was getting £50-£60 per day.
 
Even students through dial-a-student were getting around R25-00 per hour and that was a good 10 years ago when I was working for some extra pocket change. R11-00 is not much :(
 
timgaul said:
Well, there's always employment opportunities in Zimbabwe.
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Sarcasm just pisses me off sometimes.

Anyways, considering the net worth of a lot of these projects to these companies, this can't be anything but exploitation.
 
typically south african is what i say, charge the earth and pay as little as possible to your staff
 
Disgusting especially considering cost estimates for Gautrain started off at around R3.5 bn, then shot up to R7 bn once environmental impact studies were completed and then hit R20bn + as soon as successful bidders were announced.

You can bet your arse that wage levels did not track anywhere near that kind of "cost escalation"
 
What effect does things like schooling and ability to learn have on this wage? Maybe because these workers are not seen as specialized, ie you can get a replacement worker on any street corner, it is not paid well?

The problem in SA is, that we are sitting with literally millions of people that are unschooled, and will probably not receive any formal education in their lifetime.
 
Nod said:
What effect does things like schooling and ability to learn have on this wage? Maybe because these workers are not seen as specialized, ie you can get a replacement worker on any street corner, it is not paid well?

The problem in SA is, that we are sitting with literally millions of people that are unschooled, and will probably not receive any formal education in their lifetime.
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That doesn't make these people fair game for exploitation. The example that i used is a practical one. A general cleaner get's around R19/hour where i work. Logic tells me that a construction worker at arguably THE BIGGEST CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THE CONTRY should get more, am i missing something here?:confused:
 
Jozi101 said:
That doesn't make these people fair game for exploitation. The example that i used is a practical one. A general cleaner get's around R19/hour where i work. Logic tells me that a construction worker at arguably THE BIGGEST CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THE CONTRY should get more, am i missing something here?:confused:
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I wasn't trying to justify the small wage, just trying to highlight a probable cause.

The problem with projects like these, is that every company wants to make a fortune in profit.
 
...and this was touted as a broad-based economic empowerment project

tsk-tsk-tsk-tsk...
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I hope the strikers hold out for R50 an hour and Bombela takes a good kick in the sweets
 
Jozi101 said:
That doesn't make these people fair game for exploitation. The example that i used is a practical one. A general cleaner get's around R19/hour where i work. Logic tells me that a construction worker at arguably THE BIGGEST CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THE CONTRY should get more, am i missing something here?:confused:
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Arent they already over the initial budget for the stadium and the Treasury is not paying more? I remember reading an article that the town councils have to find the cash to make up the shortfall in what the treasury is paying out.
 
What stadium? We're discusing a Gautrain strike. You're correct to a certain extent though, albeit a bit offtrack. These individuals should be on the company's payroll and not project money as payments are/should be based on physical progress (Progressive payment contracts), some do it but that's not how you run a project.
 
Jozi101 said:
What stadium? We're discusing a Gautrain strike. You're correct to a certain extent though, albeit a bit offtrack. These individuals should be on the company's payroll and not project money as payments are/should be based on physical progress (Progressive payment contracts), some do it but that's not how you run a project.
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oops.. I thought it was a general building industry strike :D Cant tell who is on strike anymore.... :D I was reading about the Greenpoint Stadium strike

Cape Town - City of Cape Town officials are hopeful that the strike by construction workers at the 2010 soccer stadium in Green Point will soon be over.

All work stopped at the site last Wednesday when about 1 000 workers employed by contractors Murray & Roberts and WBHO went on strike over a travel allowance
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http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2190009,00.html
 
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