No more Chrysler & Dodge for SA

Forbidden fruits are guilty pleasures

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You know you shouldn’t want one, but you can’t help yourself despite it meaning having your Car-Enthusiast Licence revoked.
We all have one. A story about a car that appeals to you despite never being special to begin with. Years later, with the showroom lustre now faded revealing itself to be a real guilty pleasure. I’ll fall upon my sword outright and admit that the Chrysler Neon was mine. And I’m not even referring to the lukewarm SRT-4. But to appreciate where I’m coming from you’ll need to time travel with me to 1994 when the modern internet didn’t quite exist leaving car-folk to get their information from magazines and books. Yes. BOOKS.

Back then, if you were a motoring enthusiast with a head full of petrol, you would be given little books about cars for your birthday and for Christmas and the format would always be the same. As tall and wide as a postcard, thick as a thesaurus hardcover full of metal. They’d range from the classic variety to the what’s comings that now live so well on the world wide web. Their publishers would gift them evocative titles like, ‘The essential car book’, ‘Cars of the 70s and 80s’ or ‘Another bloody book full of cars’, more or less. They sold very, very well as crucial reading.

In 1994 I had accumulated several of these works of pure non-fiction since, by that time, I had survived many birthdays and Christmases. But the one I refer to now was simply (and truthfully) called CARS. It was in the vein of exciting new models that had just been launched or were well on their way. I’d wager around 30% of the vehicles in that massive chunk of paper and board had any relevance to a South African, but around 100% of it would have enthused a petrolhead such as myself. But there was one spread in particular that had me enthralled, slap bang in the middle of D. D for Dodge, where a trio of cars was splayed out in fighter jet fashion, their signature noses almost touching.

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The classic Viper, 10-cylinder truck engine doing the work under the bonnet, plastic holding the rest together.

They were, in this order, the Dodge Stealth, Dodge Viper and the Dodge Neon (aka Chrysler Neon). The Dodge Viper had the flagship position at dead centre, blood red and shaped like the head of a snake with horizontal airdams dominating the front end. It was mesmerising. It didn’t come with a mere spec sheet, it was accompanied with lore! The story of a ten-cylinder truck motor being shoehorned into a sliver of a bodyshell. I wanted one more than I’d ever wanted anything at that point, and so the Dodge Viper to this day remains on my lust list.

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The Chrysler Neon. Everyone has that demon lurking in their closet, this one is particularly evil.

But then there was the Stealth, and it was hard not to think of it as a poor man’s Viper. Sure, I now know that the Dodge Stealth was merely a badge-engineered Mitsubishi GTO (no bad thing!), and that it’s fate never extended to our shores, but to me some of the magic had leaked from the Viper and found it’s way into the Stealth which shared the supercar’s love of horizontal airdams. And so did the Neon. I was hoodwinked really, by a photographer and a clever copywriter. They convinced me that three cars (one being drop-dead gorgeous with unrivalled asphalt aggression) parked alongside in a menacing fashion, covered in the same red paint and with similar (if you squint your eyes) front-ends must share DNA.

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The Dodge Stealth, AKA the Mitsubishi GTO in other parts of the world.

As the months rolled by and 70% of the cars in that damned book fail to materialise in South Africa something amazing happened. A spark, nay, glimmer of hope in the form of a television commercial and print campaign would reveal that the Dodge Neon was well on its way. And with that the excitement of a new car brand, one that I was already and unjustifiably enamoured with. Which is precisely what happened with both brands, Dodge and Chrysler being rolled out to local consumers with a slew of saloons, MPVs and SUVs in their lineup. But alas no Viper and no Stealth. It would be years before I’d see the V10 coupe in the metal (and plastic) and the closest I’d ever come to a Stealth would be a mate’s Mitsubishi, but for what it was worth we now had the Neon. First the bug-eyed original and then the ‘look at me, I’m a Japanese import’ second generation which at the height of its appeal was only ever good enough as b-list fodder in the Fast and Furious movies. The SRT-4 version would be the ‘hot one’. But nobody in VW Golf GTI obsessed South Africa would care.

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The 'hot' Neon SRT-4. Are you even slightly tempted by this Fast and Furious extra?

So it’s with a pang of shame that I still harbour some unwanted affection for this three-box-saloon. What do you think? Do you have fond memories of the Chrysler Neon, a redeeming story that saves it from a bankruptcy of desirability? Or perhaps you have a similar story of a car that you’re not quite brave enough to admit you love?

https://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/forbidden-fruits-are-guilty-pleasures/44500/
 
The Entire Dodge Car Lineup Is Old As Hell

As Fiat Chrysler rolls out a new Ram pickup and a host of new Jeeps, it is worth looking at the lineup of Dodge cars, a lineup that is older than you think it is. No. It’s even older than that.

This figure came to us from a Jalopnik reader by the name of Tom, which I appreciate, as I hadn’t really thought about the lineup of Dodge cars myself for quite a while. I think the last time that I thought about a Dodge car was when my coworker Mike Ballaban pointed out that literally tens of thousands of Americans bought a Dodge Journey last year. Why remains a mystery. Anyway, here’s Tom’s very good email to Jalopnik:

Hey guys:

I don’t if it has escaped your attention, but while we’ve been nice pricing and crack piping, the Dodge lineup of vehicles has slowly aging into what has to be the oldest lineup of vehicles of any full line maker in modern times. Every vehicle in their lineup is at least seven years old, with some starting their second decade.

Challenger – 2008

Grand Caravan - 2008

Journey – 2009

Charger – 2011 (or 2006, if you don’t consider the 2011 update to be all new, which many people don’t)

Durango – 2011

This is an average age of 8.6 years (and that is using the more generous 2011 date for the Charger).

Get this: The no longer available Dart (introduced in 2013) was actually the newest vehicle in the Dodge lineup!

As near as I can tell, there FCA has no plans to update any of these vehicles any time soon, and the sole reason Dodge continues to exist appears to be for subprime buyers.

To try to put that in some context, I checked how it compared to its competitors. Toyota has a bunch of old vehicles, for instance. (If you’re curious, the Sequoia and the 4Runner are both from 2008 and the lovely 86 is from 2012, as examples.) But even Toyota only has an average age of 5 years across its linup of cars, SUVs and crossovers.

Naturally, I reached out to Dodge on behalf of Jalopnik, which told me that it has “three new vehicles” in “this year alone,” but then mentioned the Challenger Demon, the Challenger Hellcat Widebody and the Durang. But none of those are truly new—just new, upgraded editions of existing vehicles. I asked if there’s anything really, actually new in the pipeline, but just got a standard “we don’t discuss future product plans.” Damn.

Okay, I know what you’re going to say. I know Mopar Stans are gonna get into these comments, and be all like “why you hating on Dodge?” And to that I say, I’m not hating. We’re just saying, “Hey. Dodge. What’s up?”

Is the answer really “nm u?”

Maybe car buyers really want cars that have been vetted by years and years of being on the market already. Maybe I’m nuts. Maybe this isn’t a bad thing. If you’re selling something that puts out roughly a gazillion horsepower and makes loud V8 noises, how new of a car do you really need, anyway?

https://jalopnik.com/the-entire-dodge-car-lineup-is-old-as-hell-1823834029

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No more Chrysler & Dodge for SA

Used car buying guide: Chrysler 300C

A diesel – yes, diesel – Chrysler 300C can be a mighty fine used buy: well equipped, square jawed, reliable, roomy, 35mpg and priced from £2500. We report

Given how buyers are fleeing diesels, it might seem perverse to be championing an old EU4-emissions oil-burner worth thousands of pounds in scrappage allowance.

Of course, most of the buyers doing the fleeing are of the new car variety. Their poorer (or more sensible) used car cousins are less squeamish. To them, a Chrysler 300C CRD, a sort of Vauxhall Senator for the noughties, makes total sense. Yes, it costs £305 to tax but it has a 215bhp 3.0-litre V6 diesel producing a stump-pulling 376lb ft under the bonnet, driving the rear wheels through a five-speed automatic gearbox.

It does 35mpg on a good day too. All this and prices start from just £2500. The 300C was one of Daimler-Chrysler’s few success stories. Based to a large extent on quality Mercedes mechanicals, it was comfortable and surprisingly good to drive and boasted real presence – and that’s without a Bentley grille.

It arrived in saloon form in late 2005 powered by a choice of petrol engines: a fairly unremarkable 3.0 V6 and a more charismatic 5.7 V8 Hemi. The V6’s starting price of just £25,750 registered more than a ripple in the executive pond dominated by BMW and Mercedes, but what made a splash, a few months later in January 2006, was the more rounded CRD diesel, also costing £25,750.

It was followed in the summer by the range-topping SRT-8, powered by a 6.1-litre V8 Hemi and dressed to impress with Brembo brake calipers and sharpened suspension. By rights, it’s the one we should be talking about, but it’s rare. The CRD diesel is much more plentiful and at a range of prices peaking at a ludicrous £12,000 for a mint, last-of-the-line 2010-reg CRD SRT-Design. The CRD is no pushover, either, with 0-62mph possible in 7.4sec.

In any case, the SRT-8 was eclipsed by the arrival, also in summer 2006, of the 300C estate. It’s called the Touring and, thanks to its long, low roof, it looks even meaner and certainly sportier than the saloon.

Sensibly, the mid-life facelift in 2008 left the 300C’s imposing nose unchanged. (It took the gen-2 version of 2012 to bland it out.) Instead, the rear lights were tweaked but, more important, the interior got a mild makeover and better leather. The CRD SRT-Design, inspired by the SRT-8 but without the power and handling tweaks, arrived too.

Standard equipment from launch was good and included a sat-nav, a premium music system, heated leather seats and even an adjustable pedal set. But today, reliability and rust will be the no-cost extras buyers will be concerned about.

Amazingly, for all the 300C’s solidly steel construction, corrosion doesn’t appear to be an issue. The diesel engine is a solid old thing too. Instead, it’s electrical gremlins that plague some cars. For these you need a clued-up specialist. Find one, find a good 300C CRD – and laugh in the face of scrappage.

HOW TO GET ONE IN YOUR GARAGE:

An expert’s view - ROGER BUDDEN, ROGER BUDDEN AUTOMOBILES: “Great value, comfortable and reliable: that’s how I’d describe the 300C. The diesel estate is the best version. It’s popular with sole traders, who’d rather have one than a van, and caravanners, who like its 2000kg braked towing capacity.

Dog lovers like it, too, because of the removable load floor cover. It’s a tri-fold thing and, if you lift it away, there’s a useful additional space in which you can stand a large dog. Check it has the removable waterproof liner. Even with the low roof, load space is 1602 litres, more than the equivalent Audi A6 Avant and Saab 9-5 estate.”

Buyer beware...

ENGINE - Early diesels can suffer swirl port motor problems, resulting in a loss of power. Custom300cshop.co.uk has a patent £50 fix that sorts it. Check the starter motor turns because oil can leak past the gearbox seal onto it. Stalling after starting could be a sticky fuel control valve in the tank intended to prevent overfilling. Check surplus oil isn’t escaping from the filler neck onto the alternator because that’ll wreck it.

GEARBOX - Check the underside of the gearbox for oil coming from a failed O-ring where electrical wiring passes through. Low-speed rumbling on a steady throttle could be the torque converter. Listen for a noisy diff.

SUSPENSION AND BRAKES - It’s very heavy on front suspension. Lower front arm bushes let go at around 40k miles, so listen for clonking over bumps. Check the rear handbrake isn’t seized.

ELECTRICS - The multi-plug for the tyre pressure monitoring system is located under the front nearside bumper. It can get wet from the road and from steam washing, and short circuits, upsetting the electrical system. Remove it and dry it. Check the wiring harness under the bonnet on the nearside inner wing hasn’t been burned by air-con pipes. Inspect the condition of the two WCM fuse boxes (engine bay and dashboard).

INTERIOR - On pre-2008 cars, the leather on the driver’s seat bolster is prone to cracking. Trim plastics are easily scratched. Check the power seats work. The heating and ventilation system is prone to electrical gremlins.

Also worth knowing:

“Find a good specialist garage and cherish it,” says Paul Gizzi of custom300cshop.co.uk. He recommends 300cforums.com as a good source of technical information and advice. Try chryslerbreakers.co.uk for spares. It can supply body panels in most colours.

How much to spend:

£2500-£3749 - Early (2005-2007) CRD saloons and estates with around 110k miles.

£3750-£4995 - Tidier 2006-2008 saloons and estates with sub-100k miles and good histories.

£5000-£7495- High-mileage 2009 saloons and estates. Lower-mileage 2007-2008 cars.

£7500-£9990 - Mid-mileage 2010 and low-mileage 2008-2009 cars, plus a rare 2006 SRT-8 with 65k miles for £9250.

£9995-£11,995 - Low-mileage 2010 and first gen-2 cars.

One we found:

CHRYSLER 300C 3.0 CRD ESTATE 2008/08, 70K MILES, £5695: This private-sale car has full service history, a fresh MOT and two former keepers. It also has refurbished alloy wheels with almost new tyres. “Everything works as it should,” claims the seller. “Has to go because I’ve found a gorgeous new Jag.”

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-car-buying-guides/used-car-buying-guide-chrysler-300c

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I always imagine that this would have been Al Capone's dream car. It just shouts gangster.
 
Chrysler Australia reveals limited edition 300 SRT Pacer

Remember the Chrysler 300? No longer available in SA, there remains demand for it down under. This modern-day muscle car has received a limited-run special edition paying tribute to a car that garnered legendary status in Auistralia; the Valiant Pacer.

Limited to just 50 units, this upgraded 300 hosts a 6,4-litre V8 HEMI with 350 kW and 637 N.m, as well as a set of Brembo brakes, a limited slip differential and a fettled suspension and steering setup.

The limited-edition Pacer is available in three colours; bright white, gloss black and ceramic grey and are further distingishable via red and black decals across the bumper, sides and boot, as well as “HEMI” and “Pacer 392” branding.


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Wow, a 9 year old car design in a competitive segment. 5 years since the last face lift.

FCA does it again.
 
Chrysler Australia reveals limited edition 300 SRT Pacer

Remember the Chrysler 300? No longer available in SA, there remains demand for it down under. This modern-day muscle car has received a limited-run special edition paying tribute to a car that garnered legendary status in Auistralia; the Valiant Pacer.

Limited to just 50 units, this upgraded 300 hosts a 6,4-litre V8 HEMI with 350 kW and 637 N.m, as well as a set of Brembo brakes, a limited slip differential and a fettled suspension and steering setup.

The limited-edition Pacer is available in three colours; bright white, gloss black and ceramic grey and are further distingishable via red and black decals across the bumper, sides and boot, as well as “HEMI” and “Pacer 392” branding.


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I saw a black one in Bedfordview the other day, looks really nice, pity, the owner seems not a performance orientated guy. Older gentleman :laugh:
 
The enduring appeal of the Chrysler 300C

Now 15 years old, we investigate how the 300C initially succeeded – and how it’s still on sale today

 
Chrysler 300C

Chrysler brand is commemorating the nearly 70-year legacy of the Chrysler 300 with the 2023 Chrysler 300C, powered by a 6.4L HEMI® engine with 485 horsepower. The 2023 Chrysler 300C was revealed this evening near the Spirit of Detroit statue in downtown Detroit on the eve of media day for the 2022 North American International Auto Show.

The 6.4L HEMI-powered 2023 Chrysler 300C pays tribute to the Chrysler 300 and the end of an era - Chrysler 300 production will end following the 2023 model year. First introduced in 1955 and reborn in 2005, the Chrysler 300 has represented iconic American luxury and performance for decades.

"We're celebrating the Chrysler 300 and it's iconic legacy in the automotive world," said Chris Feuell, Chrysler brand chief executive officer. "The Chrysler 300 changed the automotive world in so many ways, and we will carry that spirit of ingenuity forward as we transform Chrysler with a fully electrified future and breakthrough customer experiences."

The 2023 Chrysler 300C honors the 300 model with a special, limited-production run - only 2,000 units will be offered in the U.S. with another 200 available in Canada.

The 6.4L V-8 HEMI engine makes the final version of America's big, bold sedan even bigger and bolder, generating 485 horsepower and 475 lb.ft. of torque and driving the 300C from 0 to 60 mph in just 4.3 seconds. The 2023 Chrysler 300 can cover the quarter-mile in 12.4 seconds and can reach a top speed of 160 mph.

The 392-cu.-in., naturally aspirated engine is paired with a TorqueFlite eight-speed transmission that optimizes fuel economy while offering maximum performance with 160-millisecond shifts. Additional performance features include red four-piston Brembo brakes, a 3.09 limited slip differential, active damping suspension and black, rounded exhaust tips that accent an active exhaust system that delivers a muscular, throaty sound.

https://www.netcarshow.com/chrysler/2023-300c/

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2023 Chrysler 300C Packs the 475-HP V8 From the Challenger Scat Pack

As the sun sets on the LD-generation Chrysler 300, Stellantis gives it a final farewell in the form of a throaty 6.4-liter V8.

Much like its platform-sharing sisters, the Dodge Charger and Challenger, the Chrysler 300 is going away after the 2023 model year. But in typical Stellantis fashion, it’s going out with a bang. To celebrate what feels like a 70-year production run (the current generation debuted for the 2011 model year), Chrysler is closing this chapter with a special limited-edition model: The return of the 300C. Only 2,000 examples will be sold in the U.S., with another 200 will be available for Canada.

The big story here is the engine. Chrysler is dropping the 6.4-liter Hemi V8 from the Charger and Challenger Scat Pack into the engine bay of the far-more restrained 300. As is the case in Dodge’s muscle cars, the engine will kick out 485 horsepower and 475 lb-ft of torque here. That’s enough power to catapult the big sedan from 0 to 60 mph in a claimed 4.3 seconds. Keep your foot to the floor, and you’ll cover a quarter mile in 12.4 seconds on your way to a top speed of 160 mph.

https://jalopnik.com/2023-chrysler-300c-475-hp-hemi-v8-1849530384
 
Did you have problems parking it?
A statement like this was never important to me until I bought a huge ass sedan , my friends call it an Oceanliner :ROFL:
But lucky we now live in a time of parking aids
 

 
Chrysler’s Hemi powered 300C returns for one last dance

 
Chrysler says goodbye to the 300C... with a Hemi, of course

It’s a fond farewell, but we could have done with more fanfare

This is the way the 300C ends. This is the way the 300C ends. Not with a bang, but with a whimper. At least, comparatively speaking.

Not that we’re saying a 6.4-litre Hemi V8 with 485 horsepower and 475lb ft is some sort of mechanical quivering lip – after all, nought to 60 miles per hour in 4.3 seconds and a top speed of 160mph are hardly depressing thoughts – it’s just that it’s all a bit... anticlimactic.

The Chrysler 300, after all, got its start as a high-performance, luxury Chrysler way back in 1955. And, apart from the now-defunct Imperial brand that got its start the same year, Chrysler has always been... well, Chrysler’s top-tier brand. Sure, the whole FCA switch-around a few years back put Dodge a) higher up the food chain, and b) solely in charge of performance cars, but surely there’s enough brotherly love left to send the 300C off with a proper bang.

It's already on its way, after all, with four-piston Brembos, limited-slip diff, active dampers, forged wheels and a multimodal exhaust. On the luxury side of things, a 19-speaker Harmon Kardon stereo, seats with inbuilt aircon and a full suite of AutoCarPlay jiggery pokery will do nicely in that regard. And the 300 name has always – aside from an unfortunate episode of front-drive V6 tepidness in the Nineties – meant proper rear-drive performance and American-spec luxury.

 
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