Nokia E61/E70/9300i

[Greg_M]

The wife is up for an upgrade soon on ProCall 120, and I've founf the following phones...

Nokia E61, E70 or 9300i (brick)

Anyone have an opinion on them?

 

[JK8]

The only Nokia I use is the E61, its pretty decent, E70 is supposedly better, but im not sure.

 

[pope24]

I am using the E70 at the moment and it is a nice phone, smaller than either of the other two, but bigger than its predecessors. Overall a good phone, albeit with the customary Nokia slowness.

 

[Silent_Bob]

E70 IMO
good camera
overall good phone
symbian os

 

[diabolus]

Yea, i got the E70 as well, it's imho the perfect fit [size] and getting a qwerty keyboard out of it all. The E70 isn't even larger than the N70/N80s that people rave about [but those lacks the keyboard], in fact i know it's thinner than the N80 and got everything [3G/Wifi etc] those phones got...i guess it's a cosmetic thing.

The E61 doesn't have a camera and is pretty wide...it's more PDA [imho] than phone [as in carrying it in your pocket and taking all your calls with it doesn't quite look like alot of fun] . I've had a Imate Jasjar, trust me having a big PDA type device as your main phone gets annoying very fast....i'd rather look into the Sony Erricson P990i if you're into the E61 type effect.

Well the 9300i, can't say much about it..it looks too big, i don't even think it has 3G . Maybe if you want a big screen then sure, still big though..again the PDA vs phone argument goes here.

I've found the E70 i can get best of both worlds [PDA functionality + Primary Phone usability] .

 

[Greg_M]

Thanks for the info... went to Autopage yesterday and look a look at some phones.

The E61 is "huge"... not a nice looking phone at all. and the 9300i is massive too. They didn't have the E70 there, and we're now waiting to find out if we can still get it.

 

[brendonwp]

Yea, i got the E70 as well, it's imho the perfect fit [size] and getting a qwerty keyboard out of it all. The E70 isn't even larger than the N70/N80s that people rave about [but those lacks the keyboard], in fact i know it's thinner than the N80 and got everything [3G/Wifi etc] those phones got...i guess it's a cosmetic thing.

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I'm looking at the E70, but the spec sheet I have says Data Transfer options are: WCDMA, EGPRS, GPRS

I know that WCDMA is a 3-G standard, but how does it compare to HSCSD (1.8MB/s)? GPRS is slooooow!

I want to be able to download and maybe edit email attachments on the phone, so a fast Internet connection is NB!

 

[diabolus]

I'm looking at the E70, but the spec sheet I have says Data Transfer options are: WCDMA, EGPRS, GPRS

I know that WCDMA is a 3-G standard, but how does it compare to HSCSD (1.8MB/s)? GPRS is slooooow!

I want to be able to download and maybe edit email attachments on the phone, so a fast Internet connection is NB!

err..well E70 got normal 3G. This is the 384kbps kind, GPRS = 64kbps mostly. So i guess that tells you the difference. So far i'm quite happy with that sort of speed, i can do browsing and banking [i.e. ABSA website via the browser] and download large emails...

It also got EDGE which can also go to about 248kbps , which is again pretty quick relative to GPRS.

I believe HSDPA is 1.8Mbps [HSCSD is something much slower last i checked] , which the E70 doesn't have though. I think HSDPA vs 3G argument only starts coming in once you start doing streaming/tv/voip kind of activities on your phone ...

But currently i ALWAYS run into the same issue. I got HSDPA [datacard] but i can't use it because it's too expensive to do anything that actually NEED that speed [i.e. watching streamed videos] . So from a general browsing angle, 3G is mostly sufficient enough.

They didn't have the E70 there, and we're now waiting to find out if we can still get it.

You can easily get it directly from MTN . I got it on the Mytalk100 with R500 pay-in .
On Vodacom you will have problems, they don't have the E70 available on contracts yet.

 

[brendonwp]

err..well E70 got normal 3G. This is the 384kbps kind, GPRS = 64kbps mostly. So i guess that tells you the difference. So far i'm quite happy with that sort of speed, i can do browsing and banking [i.e. ABSA website via the browser] and download large emails...

It also got EDGE which can also go to about 248kbps , which is again pretty quick relative to GPRS.

Thanks, that sounds good.

I believe HSDPA is 1.8Mbps [HSCSD is something much slower last i checked] , which the E70 doesn't have though. I think HSDPA vs 3G argument only starts coming in once you start doing streaming/tv/voip kind of activities on your phone ...

Muy bad! HSDPA is what I have on my laptop card. I'd like that kind of speed, especially if the data prices came down close to ADSL (< 10c/MB)

384kbps will do in the mean time....

Founds this in the mean time:

http://cellphones.about.com/od/cell_phone_glossary/g/wcdma.htm

which suggests it could be faster than 384...

 

[Greg_M]

Quote:
They didn't have the E70 there, and we're now waiting to find out if we can still get it.

You can easily get it directly from MTN . I got it on the Mytalk100 with R500 pay-in .
On Vodacom you will have problems, they don't have the E70 available on contracts yet.

Went to Autopage, and the guy was SUPER clueless about being able to get the phone.

 

[malffred]

Possibility of an HSDPA firmware upgrade for the E70?

Hey guys,

I just ran across this forum/thread from Google...

I'm about to get an E70 (even though they are probably due for an upgrade by now...) and wanted to know your thoughts on the possibility for a future firmware upgrade for HSDPA?

I've used the HSDPA from Cingular in California and its blazing fast. Palm just announced the Palm Treo 750 that is going to run on Cingulars UMTS service out on the west coast (and elsewhere) and they said its going to have a firmware upgrade later in the year to enable HSDPA.

So my question is will this be a possibility for the Nokia E70 with WCDMA? I know it might now as the HSDPA/UMTS band is different in the states (1900MHZ) than the rest of the world (2100Mhz I believe).

Just wanted to get your guys' thoughts on it (or if theres any news on an E70 Upgrade coming), thanks

 

[JK8]

Hey guys,

I just ran across this forum/thread from Google...

I'm about to get an E70 (even though they are probably due for an upgrade by now...) and wanted to know your thoughts on the possibility for a future firmware upgrade for HSDPA?

I've used the HSDPA from Cingular in California and its blazing fast. Palm just announced the Palm Treo 750 that is going to run on Cingulars UMTS service out on the west coast (and elsewhere) and they said its going to have a firmware upgrade later in the year to enable HSDPA.

So my question is will this be a possibility for the Nokia E70 with WCDMA? I know it might now as the HSDPA/UMTS band is different in the states (1900MHZ) than the rest of the world (2100Mhz I believe).

Just wanted to get your guys' thoughts on it (or if theres any news on an E70 Upgrade coming), thanks

A software upgrade to enable HSDPA?
Ill be very surprised.
Although...

 

[lilDeath]

384kbps will do in the mean time....

http://cellphones.about.com/od/cell_phone_glossary/g/wcdma.htm

which suggests it could be faster than 384...

WCDMA is the technology standard under which 3G (384kbps) and HSDPA (1.8MB/s) - HSDPA, is basically a 'software' upgrade from 3G - is running.

Went to Autopage, and the guy was SUPER clueless about being able to get the phone.

uhm, don't go to Autopage? Ok, thanks.

Hey guys,

I just ran across this forum/thread from Google...

I'm about to get an E70 (even though they are probably due for an upgrade by now...) and wanted to know your thoughts on the possibility for a future firmware upgrade for HSDPA?

I've used the HSDPA from Cingular in California and its blazing fast. Palm just announced the Palm Treo 750 that is going to run on Cingulars UMTS service out on the west coast (and elsewhere) and they said its going to have a firmware upgrade later in the year to enable HSDPA.

So my question is will this be a possibility for the Nokia E70 with WCDMA? I know it might now as the HSDPA/UMTS band is different in the states (1900MHZ) than the rest of the world (2100Mhz I believe).

Just wanted to get your guys' thoughts on it (or if theres any news on an E70 Upgrade coming), thanks

I doubt they will do it through the firmware. Better option would be to do it in the newer / later model.
Only way this can work is if they consciously include this plan in the model while it is in design. This seems to be the case with the Palm.
The bits and pieces for the firmware upgrade must already be in the phone... in order for the firmware upgrade to work.