Noob Linux DualBoot

milomak said:
I admire your perserverence. It will stand you in good stead as you learn that things are different in Linux.

EDIT: Let me also add that while the people here wll be more than willing to help (as you have already witnessed), I would strongly urge that you frequently visit UbuntuForums. You will find that many have walked down the path that is causing you problems at any time.
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This is good advice.

I found a lot of my exact problems on the Ubuntu forum. Some did not have answers, but I will be sure to register there today and get chatting with some more Linux peeps.

But be sure, that this will not be the last thread about Linux from me on these forums either :)
 
Here's a real diamond in the rough:
www.gnome-look.org
It has all your needs to make your OS look fancy, first stop after a fresh install.
I suggest trying the GTK2+ themes first, those are the correct for your Gnome version. What you do is download the theme save to desktop, now go to system-preferences-appearance at the top Ubuntu menu, and drag the file you just downloaded into the appearance box, it will ask you if you want to install the new theme. You can do the same for icons and other stuff. Gotta get that box looking fresh. They also have tons of wallpapers, which you change by right click the desktop and selecting "change desktop background"....
PS Redhat systems mount drives automatically on your Desktop ( and to /media/) these days.
 
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Beta said:
Here's a real diamond in the rough:
www.gnome-look.org
It has all your needs to make your OS look fancy, first stop after a fresh install.
I suggest trying the GTK2+ themes first, those are the correct for your Gnome version. What you do is download the theme save to desktop, now go to system-preferences-appearance at the top Ubuntu menu, and drag the file you just downloaded into the appearance box, it will ask you if you want to install the new theme. You can do the same for icons and other stuff. Gotta get that box looking fresh. They also have tons of wallpapers, which you change by right click the desktop and selecting "change desktop background"....
PS Redhat systems mount drives automatically on your Desktop ( and to /media/) these days.
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Cool beans. I am checking it out now :)
 
Good times so far :)

Got a Vista lookalike theme going, just to be original :p

Have downloaded some others as well to try out. Found an MSNmessenger clone which is going well. Hope not to have to boot up Vista for a long time!
 
some south africa specific broadband questions below:

1. Are you an adsl user?

2. If yes do you make use of a local only account or one that gives access to local after international?

3. If yes, when it is available do you route traffic between local and international?

4. If yes how do you do it:
a) routesentry, or
b) via the router?

Lastly, if you are on adsl with local only access, do the following in a terminal:

1. cat /etc/apt/sources.list
2. copy the output and post it on here
 
milomak said:
some south africa specific broadband questions below:

1. Are you an adsl user?

2. If yes do you make use of a local only account or one that gives access to local after international?

3. If yes, when it is available do you route traffic between local and international?

4. If yes how do you do it:
a) routesentry, or
b) via the router?

Lastly, if you are on adsl with local only access, do the following in a terminal:

1. cat /etc/apt/sources.list
2. copy the output and post it on here
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Come again?
 
My update manager tells me that I have 170 updates available totalling 220MB. Is there a local mirror to download updates from? Google isn't being much help...
 
Important to always update,this fixes security vulnerabilities and updates programs etc. Ubuntu goes through release cycles of about 6 months I think. So by the time that six months is up, you are gonna have a load of patches to DL. They are cached locally, so they always come through full speed, although I'm not sure if they count towards this Telkom local threshold thing, because the whole local/international count not count thing confused me.
 
Right. Then get into a terminal and type cat /etc/apt/sources.list and copy the output onto here.
 
milomak said:
Right. Then get into a terminal and type cat /etc/apt/sources.list and copy the output onto here.
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Here we go:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release amd64 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted
# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.

deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe
deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse
deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
# deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu
## users.
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse
deb http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee/ubuntu gutsy screenlets
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Beta said:
Important to always update,this fixes security vulnerabilities and updates programs etc. Ubuntu goes through release cycles of about 6 months I think. So by the time that six months is up, you are gonna have a load of patches to DL. They are cached locally, so they always come through full speed, although I'm not sure if they count towards this Telkom local threshold thing, because the whole local/international count not count thing confused me.
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You are correct, they are cached locally :) Going at 420kB/sec on IS local
 
By the by, what MSN clients do you guys use?

The Ubuntu built-in one is pretty basic and aMSN does not render very nicely on my machine, Also, I can't seem to get it to make noises. Other sound is fine, just not aMSN. The forums talk of the same problem..
 
cool. wanted to check whether your repos where pointed at local sites so that you can use your local account.

kopete is the IM I use.
 
you can add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list

Code: 
deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse

You can do this by doing the following in a terminal (the # signs below indicate that the part after it should be typed at the prompt)

# sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
# sudo echo "deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
# apt-get update

I use Debian in KDE or xfce so I am not totally familiar with Gnome related packages. But KDE has a package that will pop up in your system bar to tell you when there are updates available. Maybe one of the other guys who uses Ubuntu can point you in the right direction.
 
milomak said:
cool. wanted to check whether your repos where pointed at local sites so that you can use your local account.

kopete is the IM I use.
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Ok cool. And as far as antivirus goes? Is it necessary for Linux?

Also, things that are made for KDE, will they work on my setup? What is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?:o
 
No need for anti-virus. Just make sure that your router firewall is on or if it doesn't have one install iptables. My Mega100WR2 handles things pretty well so I don't run iptables on my systems.

KDE apps will work fine with Gnome. What will happen is that some KDE libraries will then be downloaded to ensure those programs work. On my Linux installs I always install both Gnome and KDE. Of late I have moved to xfce4 so I include that as well were possible. But they will all exist side by side happily.

EDIT: You might also have seen this thread about what programs to use for specific things. Don't take those as gospel though. Many a linux forum is filled with polls of who prefers what software over another. That's the great thing about Linux. There is plenty choice available for free.
 
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milomak said:
No need for anti-virus. Just make sure that your router firewall is on or if it doesn't have one install iptables. My Mega100WR2 handles things pretty well so I don't run iptables on my systems.

KDE apps will work fine with Gnome. What will happen is that some KDE libraries will then be downloaded to ensure those programs work. On my Linux installs I always install both Gnome and KDE. Of late I have moved to xfce4 so I include that as well were possible. But they will all exist side by side happily.

EDIT: You might also have seen this thread about what programs to use for specific things. Don't take those as gospel though. Many a linux forum is filled with polls of who prefers what software over another. That's the great thing about Linux. There is plenty choice available for free.
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Cool. I'll try that msn client of yours tomorrow then-i'm on my phone again right now. Also, is there a need for me to look specifically for 64 bit packages as that is the distro i'm running or is it not vital? It's just i know it is vital when it comes to windows.
 
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