Nutritional stack thread

[Random Hero]

Hi guys,

Lately I have been feeling very lethargic, stressing, not getting enough rest and feeling a bit down and a little depressed.

I know this is mostly due to my lifestyle. Not eating well and not enough exercise.
I haven't been doing exercise in the last moth due to being sick and down with flu.
(will be posting in the body-building thread soon.)

And not eating well due to being poor. lol (Surviving on R600 a week)

I think the reason for me feeling like this is because my diet is not good at all.
I have been taking Scorbex(Vitamin C- 1000mg) per day.

Can anyone suggest some more vitamins a minerals.. like iron and zinc.. which stacks will help me have more energy and make me feel better.

Thanks guys.

 

[DominionZA]

Nothing helps more than regular exercise IMO. Throw in the mix a decent diet and you have a winner.

I used to take all sorts of vitamins and initially they helped. But the body got used to them and I would have to try something else.

I eventually stopped and took up cycling. I only do about 70km a week, but I am on top of the world. Focused, awake and always in a great mood.
I don't take any vitamins at all. Nothing.

I also forced going to bed at a certain time, and eating my daily meals at a certain time. This gets the body clock working like a boss. I don't even need an alarm anymore. 6 hours, and I wake up.

Just my 2c. Works well for me.

 

[Random Hero]

Its tough for me to follow a decent diet. last year I ate fresh veggies and steamed my meats. now it has gotten very fatty and processed because I can not afford any good supplements or food. I will be getting back to gym from next week.

 

[Deleted member 83147]

Before you throw money into vitamins and other supplements, take some time to learn about each one. Most of the time you literally end up pissing all those vitamins away.

Best is to eat natural, whole foods. By that I mean cook your own meals from scratch and avoid processed food at all costs. If it's just you that you're cooking for, then do it in bulk. That way you can do most of the work at once like twice a week. Then when you need to eat just take out of the fridge/freezer and heat/assemble.

Always have somethings that's ready to eat in your fridge. This will make you less likely to buy fast food or eat junk like chips.

Then obviously you need to exercise, start slow and build you way up. Don't try bench press the entire gym on your first try.

As you get stronger and work out harder, hopefully you'll have a bit more cash and can invest in some good quality supplements. Do your research well before handling over your cash. I would recommend brands like ON. Yes, they are expensive, but your body is your most important asset and you shouldn't be putting any rubbish into it.

The basics like whey protein, casein, l glutamine and creatine should get you by. Again, do your research on when's the best time to take them and how much to take.

After your recent threads in OT I hope working out and living a healthy lifestyle clears your mind and you're able to get back on track.

 

[HavocXphere]

Throw out the Vit-C overdose and get a multi-vitamin instead for starters...

 

[Random Hero]

Hey man, thank you for the advice. yes focusing on important stuff like health, career and academics now. the rest will fall into place later.

Last year I always used USN whey protein. ON is super expensive. hopefully if I get a career soon I will look into that.

 

[saor]

Cut out all refined foods as much as possible / eat as many whole foods as possible. Good food isn't expensive. A meal of sweet potatos and lentils is perfectly fine. Get some olive oil or coconut oil to use sparingly (or less sparingly if the budget isn't so tight) and some sea-salt. Use lemon juice or apple cider vinegar instead of bottled dressings. I'd rather spend the money on food than supplements. For your meat - consider quality over quantity. Rather get a really nice piece of grass-fed beef once or twice a week than eat the cheapest beef 6 times a week.

Get some exercise in. Don't make it a chore - do something you enjoy. Get out to the mountains, run on the beach, join a park-run.

And consider meditation too if you haven't already.

 

[Random Hero]

Throw out the Vit-C overdose and get a multi-vitamin instead for starters...

What would you suggest? the pharmacist suggested 1000mg for the winter.

 

[Deleted member 83147]

Hey man, thank you for the advice. yes focusing on important stuff like health, career and academics now. the rest will fall into place later.

Last year I always used USN whey protein. ON is super expensive. hopefully if I get a career soon I will look into that.

Personally, stay the hell away from USN.

I'm a broke student as well, can't afford ON either.

I get my supps from here: http://www.basicsupplements.co.za/

Just a note, those are raw supplements, so no additives. Which is great, but it also means no flavouring/sweetener. That basically means it tastes absolutely disgusting. It still makes me nauseous sometimes.

But as you're just starting out, so you don't really need to spend money on supps just yet. Rather focus on good quality food. Buy in bulk if you can, like entire bags of frozen chicken breast.

 

[Random Hero]

Cut out all refined foods as much as possible / eat as many whole foods as possible. Good food isn't expensive. A meal of sweet potatos and lentils is perfectly fine. Get some olive oil or coconut oil to use sparingly (or less sparingly if the budget isn't so tight) and some sea-salt. Use lemon juice or apple cider vinegar instead of bottled dressings. I'd rather spend the money on food than supplements. For your meat - consider quality over quantity. Rather get a really nice piece of grass-fed beef once or twice a week than eat the cheapest beef 6 times a week.

Get some exercise in. Don't make it a chore - do something you enjoy. Get out to the mountains, run on the beach, join a park-run.

And consider meditation too if you haven't already.

Have you tried Noopept yet? do you think it will work?

I wrote an exam from 09:00 to 13:00 today. when i got home i ate and slept till 18:00 I felt so tired and weak this afternoon...

 

[Random Hero]

Personally, stay the hell away from USN.

I'm a broke student as well, can't afford ON either.

I get my supps from here: http://www.basicsupplements.co.za/

Just a note, those are raw supplements, so no additives. Which is great, but it also means no flavouring/sweetener. That basically means it tastes absolutely disgusting. It still makes me nauseous sometimes.

But as you're just starting out, so you don't really need to spend money on supps just yet. Rather focus on good quality food. Buy in bulk if you can, like entire bags of frozen chicken breast.

What is Whey Protein Isolate. only 570 for 2.5kg... that's insanely cheap.

 

[HavocXphere]

What would you suggest? the pharmacist suggested 1000mg for the winter.

I dunno where people get this mega-dose vit C bullsht from...

The current recommended dietary allowance (RDA) for vitamin C for adult nonsmoking men and women is 60 mg/d, which is based on a mean requirement of 46 mg/d to prevent the deficiency disease scurvy.

If you really want to supplement something fancy pick something a bit more sane...Vit B complex, Vit D + Calcium etc...

Given your cost constraints I'd def go for multi-vit + a diet focussing on low-GI though

 

[Deleted member 83147]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whey_protein

Simply, Whey Protein Isolate is the best form of Whey (apart from Hydroslate with costs a small fortune). There has to be at least 90% protein in the mix.

Again, it's raw, with no added flavouring/sweetner. It tastes REALLY bad.

What I do to hide the taste is add choc Pronutro + a banana and make a post workout smoothie.

 

[Random Hero]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whey_protein

Simply, Whey Protein Isolate is the best form of Whey (apart from Hydroslate with costs a small fortune). There has to be at least 90% protein in the mix.

Again, it's raw, with no added flavouring/sweetner. It tastes REALLY bad.

What I do to hide the taste is add choc Pronutro + a banana and make a post workout smoothie.

I see on the Facebook site for that company people seem to be complaining. have you had any problems?

 

[Deleted member 83147]

I haven't really had any issues with them. It does take a while for the stuff to get delivered, think about 3-4 weeks via the post office.

You still have to pay extra for delivery which ends up being a couple hundred bucks as the supps are very heavy.

Check your PM.

 

[saor]

Have you tried Noopept yet? do you think it will work?

Diet & exercise. Don't even think about anything else until you've spent time on those things. Build a good foundation and get to the fancy trimmings later.

 

[Random Hero]

I haven't really had any issues with them. It does take a while for the stuff to get delivered, think about 3-4 weeks via the post office.

You still have to pay extra for delivery which ends up being a couple hundred bucks as the supps are very heavy.

Check your PM.

Hey bro, did not get a PM.

 

[HavocXphere]

Why would you buy protein supplements if you're not exercising (seriously) heavily?

Decent diet, decent bit of exercise and a full nights sleep...you can always pile heavy exercise & muscle supplements on top of that.

 

[Deleted member 83147]

It says sent in my Outbox, will send it again.

Yea, and I agree with the other guys here. Start exercising and get your nutrition (don't like the word "diet" as to me it implies short term) in check.

Then once you have that sorted you can add to your healthy lifestyle with supplements where necessary.

That said, I do think a simple Whey Protein (preferably Isolate) can help a lot post work out even if you're a beginner. You're gonna be hungry after a hard work out, and you're probably gonna wanna fill up with carbs and protein in a solid form.

This is not ideal from a muscle building perspective and you'll be much better off with a quick (high quality) protein shake post workout. That way your muscles can absorb the protein quickly and start to repair.

 

[saor]

don't like the word "diet" as to me it implies short term)

Fwiw I meant diet in the context of describing the foods one eats - like horses have a plant-based diet. Diets as a short-term fad are b/s for most people wanting get healthy. They almost always prioritize weight loss at the cost of good nutritional intake. I know what you mean tho...I should probably steer away from using that word as I think a lot of people probably do associate it with the short-term.

I dunno where people get this mega-dose vit C bullsht from...

Scurvy's a mother****er . Yeah I dunno. There's a few studies showing mega-doses of vitamin C at the onset of colds / flu etc. can prevent the disease from worsening - but on a daily basis there's almost no need for supplementation if you're eating a tomato or piece of fruit. There's only so much the body can use.

If you really want to supplement something fancy pick something a bit more sane...Vit B complex, Vit D + Calcium etc...

Especially now in winter with no sunlight - vitamin D is a nice addition. I've actually got an unused bottle of Solal Vitamin Dᵌ softgel tablets if you want it Random Hero (if you're in CPT). Maybe a nice omega (dha & epa) blend too.