Obama Officially Ineligible

um the article is a pile of crap purporting to be journalism.

What the lawyer acting in the case said was that no authentic original birth certificate had been relied delivered to the Secretary of State by Obama or anybody else acting on is authority and any such document purporting to be a long form birth certificate is an obvious "fraudulent" document. The lawyer made no comment on the authenticity of the document of which facsimiles were made and produced on the internet - only that those facsimiles are not in themselves authenticated documents for legal proceedings.

The admission is a truism namely that an internet released unsigned PDF and JPEG file is not admissible as evidence and therefore has no bearing in a law court. Of course the morons trying to damage Obama struggle to read and so such an admission is so open to misunderstanding that an article like this emerges.
Why the f%ck should Obama file the original of his birth certificate with some 100 authorities which may adjudicate on his eligibility to run for some or another section of an election, particularly because this is physically impossible and to file authentic certified copies of some shape or form lend themselves to the court demanding more authentic evidence and ultimately the original document.
 
Well let's see where it goes..
But this whole think stinks as far as I'm concerned, why so much fuss over a birth certificate.. :confused: From another article Judicial Cowardice - A Stench
Rolling Across America
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Soetoro's attorney made a very important admission:

"Then Masin turned to Hill and asked her directly:

"Is it your legal position that the document on the Internet is irrelevant to this case?

"Hill replied, "Yes." Masin then asked:

"And indeed you concede that Mr. Obama has not produced an alleged birth certificate to the Secretary of State.

"Hill at first said, "It has been released nationally," but then admitted that she did not know personally that Obama had given any such document to the Secretary of State, nor did she intend giving such a document to the court today. But she also argued, after Judge Masin asked her repeatedly, that Obama need not produce any evidence at all.

"Apuzzo told CNAV during a recess in the hearing that this was the most stunning thing that any lawyer for Obama had ever admitted, in an Obama eligibility case or in any other case. When the hearing finally adjourned at 12:30 p.m., Apuzzo was confident of prevailing on this point.Â

"He observed that Hill, after objecting to everything that Apuzzo tried to introduce into evidence, offered no evidence on her own behalf and even admitted that the infamous PDF document was legally worthless."
 
Wrong, there's more than just one source reporting this.
But yeah it's early days yet, but the quotes were directly from Obama's attorney, so if she was deliberately misquoted there will be trouble. Personally I'm not invested in his eligibility either way, I'm focusing more on the character of the man if he is found to be lying.

Oh precious, you found something from Ben Park. Check his site:

http://www.black-and-right.com/all-about-me/
 
um the article is a pile of crap purporting to be journalism.

What the lawyer acting in the case said was that no authentic original birth certificate had been relied delivered to the Secretary of State by Obama or anybody else acting on is authority and any such document purporting to be a long form birth certificate is an obvious "fraudulent" document. The lawyer made no comment on the authenticity of the document of which facsimiles were made and produced on the internet - only that those facsimiles are not in themselves authenticated documents for legal proceedings.

The admission is a truism namely that an internet released unsigned PDF and JPEG file is not admissible as evidence and therefore has no bearing in a law court. Of course the morons trying to damage Obama struggle to read and so such an admission is so open to misunderstanding that an article like this emerges.
Why the f%ck should Obama file the original of his birth certificate with some 100 authorities which may adjudicate on his eligibility to run for some or another section of an election, particularly because this is physically impossible and to file authentic certified copies of some shape or form lend themselves to the court demanding more authentic evidence and ultimately the original document.

Yeah, this is what I meant by OP copy-pasting and not checking facts.
 
This isn't on any of the major networks. RT loves a good conspiracy theory if has to do with the west, if they cannot even get an article up then boy the fail must be strong :D
 
Dear old Stu. Still quoting nonsense from the net in a desperate attempt to undermine, umm, I'm not sure what. And then once the drivel has been proven as such, he disappears....or simply refuses to acknowledge that if it looks like garbage, stinks like garbage, tastes ( :) ) like garbage, well, it is garbage.

For someone who supports intelligent design, there is not much evidence of intelligence in the odd posts to try and undermine science and the US of A. Must have been an off day when his mind was designed? :)
 
God I am sick to death of right wing *******s misquoting or selectively quoting in desperate attempts to get people to believe their cr@p about Obama.

Where are Alan and Apache they will soon be her like bees to honey!
 
Dear old Stu. Still quoting nonsense from the net in a desperate attempt to undermine, umm, I'm not sure what. And then once the drivel has been proven as such, he disappears....or simply refuses to acknowledge that if it looks like garbage, stinks like garbage, tastes ( :) ) like garbage, well, it is garbage.

For someone who supports intelligent design, there is not much evidence of intelligence in the odd posts to try and undermine science and the US of A. Must have been an off day when his mind was designed? :)

What?


Anyway, In case you missed it:

An interesting update is the New Jersey legal challenge where Mr. Obama’s attorney asserted (and here) that the document is not evidence of either Mr. Obama’s identity or place of birth:

Judge Masin also asked Obama’s attorney whether she would so stipulate. She did so stipulate, agreeing that both the court and the Secretary of State cannot rely on the internet birth certificate as evidence of Obama’s place of birth and that Obama has produced no other evidence to the court regarding his place of birth.

What does this mean?

It means that Mr. Obama’s legal team decided the alleged birth certificate on the White House website cannot be defended from evidence it is a forgery.

Read that twice to let that sink-in.

This is consistent with the quote attributed to Gandhi that criminal oligarchs will ignore and laugh at you as for as long as possible to avoid the fight that factually crushes them.

This also means that exposing a lie this big helps the 99% with intellectual integrity and moral courage to expose the 1%’s crimes in money and war, arrest the obvious criminals, and begin policy for 100% of Earth’s inhabitants.


Oh, and it's from all sides that Obama's eligibility is now being questioned.
Florida Democrat Files Lawsuit to Remove Barack Obama from November Ballots
 
Let's ignore the legalities either way for the moment. Is your position that a piece of paper is more important than what Obama signified in terms of him being the first black man elected as president of the USA? Are you pro law or anti Obama?
 
What?


Anyway, In case you missed it:

An interesting update is the New Jersey legal challenge where Mr. Obama’s attorney asserted (and here) that the document is not evidence of either Mr. Obama’s identity or place of birth:

Judge Masin also asked Obama’s attorney whether she would so stipulate. She did so stipulate, agreeing that both the court and the Secretary of State cannot rely on the internet birth certificate as evidence of Obama’s place of birth and that Obama has produced no other evidence to the court regarding his place of birth.

What does this mean?

It means that Mr. Obama’s legal team decided the alleged birth certificate on the White House website cannot be defended from evidence it is a forgery.

Read that twice to let that sink-in.

This is consistent with the quote attributed to Gandhi that criminal oligarchs will ignore and laugh at you as for as long as possible to avoid the fight that factually crushes them.

This also means that exposing a lie this big helps the 99% with intellectual integrity and moral courage to expose the 1%’s crimes in money and war, arrest the obvious criminals, and begin policy for 100% of Earth’s inhabitants.


Oh, and it's from all sides that Obama's eligibility is now being questioned.
Florida Democrat Files Lawsuit to Remove Barack Obama from November Ballots

Please provide quotes from the lawyer admitting to forgery.
 
the only high crimes being committed is idiots who do not understand basic legal principles trying to assert a legal technicality case.
 
the only high crimes being committed is idiots who do not understand basic legal principles trying to assert a legal technicality case.

Don't bother trying to argue the 'facts', as they are clearly lies.

Stu keeps saying that there are quotes from the lawyer admitting to forgery, but my oh my, what a shocker, keeps avoiding requests to provide them.

This is standard operating practice for him unfortunately.
 
Don't bother trying to argue the 'facts', as they are clearly lies.

Stu keeps saying that there are quotes from the lawyer admitting to forgery, but my oh my, what a shocker, keeps avoiding requests to provide them.

This is standard operating practice for him unfortunately.

Well, one of his standard practices. The others can lead to his banning though :)
 
what is all this about obama's birth certificate? if there was any truth in all this hoopla it would be splashed on CNN right now and there is absolutely nothing.
 
Obama doesn't have an American birth certificate because Obama doesn't have a birth certificate at all because Obama wasn't born he was

*Ta na na*

HATCHED!

/conspiracy theories
 
what is all this about obama's birth certificate? if there was any truth in all this hoopla it would be splashed on CNN right now and there is absolutely nothing.

This 'confession' of forgery was made at the hearing on the 10th.

It's so much bullsh"t that not even the morons at FOX are running with it.

Which says a lot for people who are.
 
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