Offer to purchase question

And we have a tracking report now.

Sending an email tomorrow regarding the fees and any reduction they can do. Will make payment over the weekend. Screenshot_20220224-171716_Chrome.jpg
 
MidnightZA said:
Nope. Its a fairly old structure. I would say 30 years+

No list of defects supplied. The previous owners were an old couple only 2 of them staying there. I assume they never used the guest bathroom upstairs. It looks like it was renovated recently but it looks like a 60 year old designed it. Tiles look new, all the grout in the walls look fresh, no stains etc. Toilet and basin still had stickers on it when I moved in.


In the shower upstairs, there's no visible signs of leaking. I'm guessing its the drain that isn't sealed properly, or maybe a joint in the pipes.

Downstairs, the ceiling paint was a bit bumpy/flaky (not sure know to describe it, Ill take a pic and post it later) but there was no wet spots or mold on the ceiling when I moved in. It wasn't the best condition but wasn't the worst such that it needed immediate attention . There's still no mold, but the leak from the previous night left a few wet spots but I took a mop and wiped it off.

I spoke to my neighbour, they also had that problem before. They said it was their shower drain that was leaking and they fixed the leak and that was the end of it for them.

I can get my leak fixed, but that doesnt fix the issue of the slab leaking. Im quite sure it not meant to have gaps to allow water to leak downstairs. If there is a leak, the water should stay upstairs



Will do when I get home. The shower base is brick and tile. Still going to rip it and redo it.
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Has transfer taken place?
How long ago did you take occupation?
Did you use the services of an agent?
 
RonSwanson said:
Has transfer taken place?
How long ago did you take occupation?
Did you use the services of an agent?
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Transfer happened on 30 Nov 2020. Occupation on 1 Dec 2020. Yes there was an agent involved.

I know if I take it up with the agents they will say I am responsible for the waterproofing but I would assume this is a latent defect.

Previously there was an old couple staying here. Kids moved out many years ago. I'm guessing they renovated the bathroom and it was never used by them also.
 
MidnightZA said:
Transfer happened on 30 Nov 2020. Occupation on 1 Dec 2020. Yes there was an agent involved.

I know if I take it up with the agents they will say I am responsible for the waterproofing but I would assume this is a latent defect.

Previously there was an old couple staying here. Kids moved out many years ago. I'm guessing they renovated the bathroom and it was never used by them also.
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So then I suggest getting hold of the agent, he should make a suggestion, something like setting up a friendly meeting to discuss the issue with the seller. If the renovation was recent, they may have recourse against the renovator. The seller may also offer to pay, or at least fund a portion of the repairs.
 
It's been a year and 3 months since you took occupation. Going to be a bit difficult to get anyone to take responsibility for it now.
 
RonSwanson said:
So then I suggest getting hold of the agent, he should make a suggestion, something like setting up a friendly meeting to discuss the issue with the seller. If the renovation was recent, they may have recourse against the renovator. The seller may also offer to pay, or at least fund a portion of the repairs.
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I'll give it a shot. But I have a feeling they will say it's my problem.

Baise said:
It's been a year and 3 months since you took occupation. Going to be a bit difficult to get anyone to take responsibility for it now.
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Especially with agents. Once they have their money anything after that is the buyers problem, they barely do any work selling the house. I doubt they will do any work after the sale
 
MidnightZA said:
I'll give it a shot. But I have a feeling they will say it's my problem.


Especially with agents. Once they have their money anything after that is the buyers problem, they barely do any work selling the house. I doubt they will do any work after the sale
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Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
You purchased the property in good faith, they sold it in good faith, yet you are saddled with the expense of having to repair something. It doesn't sound very fair to me, and if I were the seller I would be willing to meet halfway vs facing a potentially protracted and expensive legal battle.
 
Baise said:
It's been a year and 3 months since you took occupation. Going to be a bit difficult to get anyone to take responsibility for it now.
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Wait a minute, you are correct! I had it that it was only 3 months :X3:, which is reasonable for a claim (anything up to 6 months tops). 15 months is far too long @MidnightZA , anything can happen in that time.
 
RonSwanson said:
Wait a minute, you are correct! I had it that it was only 3 months :X3:, which is reasonable for a claim (anything up to 6 months tops). 15 months is far too long @MidnightZA , anything can happen in that time.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking. I guess I should have used the upstairs shower since the time I moved in lol.

I planned to renovate that bathroom either way in the future. So not a big issue for the shower leak.

The other issue of the water leaking through the slab, is that something to be concerned about? If the leak the fix in the shower, then it wont leak through the slab.
 
AchmatK said:
Last time we bought property was 10 years ago.

How does this fee estimate compare? View attachment 1253778
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Everything looks fine except the R3000 post and petties seems too high, that is normally R800.

Don't listen to the advice regarding the clearance certificate costs, the buyer pays the fee for the certificates, the seller pays all outstanding levies.
 
MidnightZA said:
The other issue of the water leaking through the slab, is that something to be concerned about? If the leak the fix in the shower, then it wont leak through the slab.
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Yep. It's only a problem if you allow it to continue. If you fix the leak then all should be OK.
 
No point in creating a new thread.

Bought house 7 years ago.

Need to get electricity coc.

Any idea where I can get a copy?
 
So there's a potential issue in the purchase of a house, and hoping to get some advice. Worth noting it's not yet an issue, but I have a sneaking suspicion it could become one. When I did the OTP I got a 3rd-party to do an inspection. The only thing he noted as a concern was that the geyser back legs weren't mounted on support beams but directly on the drip tray. This has caused the tray to warp and it means should there be a burst geyser the water will pool instead of running out.

So a plumber came and did the COC last week and confirmed the same issue, along with some piping issue (pipes were run incorrectly, or not done at a certain distance/angle - not entirely sure), however, he said that he will still issue the COC to avoid causing delays in the transfer, and said that the owner will take care of the issues and scheduled the work for a few days later. Fast forward a week and the plumber says the work still hasn't been approved but he will follow up, and it's been a few days since then with no further communication. The OTP clearly stated that any issues not related to COC is for my own account, and my worry is that since the COC has been issued, they will say it's not required for them to fix it. However, I'm 99% sure that this particular issue is definitely required for COC approval. So my question is: if the owner says they won't fix it, what are my options? Getting another plumber to confirm the COC should be invalidated and then tell the transfer attorney? Do I need to report the incorrect COC somewhere (some association)?

This is all hypothetical at this stage, as the owner could still do the fixes, but I'm wanting to be ready should this turn into an issue.
 
Praemon said:
So there's a potential issue in the purchase of a house, and hoping to get some advice. Worth noting it's not yet an issue, but I have a sneaking suspicion it could become one. When I did the OTP I got a 3rd-party to do an inspection. The only thing he noted as a concern was that the geyser back legs weren't mounted on support beams but directly on the drip tray. This has caused the tray to warp and it means should there be a burst geyser the water will pool instead of running out.

So a plumber came and did the COC last week and confirmed the same issue, along with some piping issue (pipes were run incorrectly, or not done at a certain distance/angle - not entirely sure), however, he said that he will still issue the COC to avoid causing delays in the transfer, and said that the owner will take care of the issues and scheduled the work for a few days later. Fast forward a week and the plumber says the work still hasn't been approved but he will follow up, and it's been a few days since then with no further communication. The OTP clearly stated that any issues not related to COC is for my own account, and my worry is that since the COC has been issued, they will say it's not required for them to fix it. However, I'm 99% sure that this particular issue is definitely required for COC approval. So my question is: if the owner says they won't fix it, what are my options? Getting another plumber to confirm the COC should be invalidated and then tell the transfer attorney? Do I need to report the incorrect COC somewhere (some association)?

This is all hypothetical at this stage, as the owner could still do the fixes, but I'm wanting to be ready should this turn into an issue.
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