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Barkley really caught my eye. He looks a real talent.

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The way Martinez is playing this team I won't be surprised that Everton will be battling against relegation this season
 
fishfly said:
The way Martinez is playing this team I won't be surprised that Everton will be battling against relegation this season
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It's a complete shift in playing style and mentality, one can hardly expect to see fruits of the switch right away. Hell, the mighty Pep is struggling to get the European champions to play his way (granted, there is also a language factor there).

Sylvain Distin and Phil Jagielka exchanged passes deep in their own half during the 0-0 draw with West Bromwich Albion in a position where for the last few years they would have felt obliged to go more direct.

There was an audible murmur from a small section of the home fans and the debate about whether 'passing for passing sake’ serves a purpose beyond pleasing the new manager.

It seemed brutally premature for any show of dissent, but it demonstrated why evolving the blueprint left by David Moyes with a sprinkling of Spanish flair won’t be so straightforward for Martínez.

At their most effective under Moyes, Everton moved the ball from back to front as quickly as possible and were happy to win with brawn as much as artistry. In this goalless draw, outplaying rather than overpowering the opponent was the chief ambition. It amounted to a getting to know you operation requiring further work before familiarity breeds content.

The problem for Martínez is that under Moyes there was a well hidden and broadly disguised split among Everton fans as to what they wanted from this side.

Some tolerated what they perceived as the cautious pragmatism of the Scot because he made the side notoriously tough to beat (only Chelsea won here last season), but others were consistently frustrated by the ultra-vigilance, particularly away from home, where the team was often set up to avoid defeat rather than go for it.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...t-Goodison-Park-to-change-Evertons-style.html
 
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thestaggy said:
It's a complete shift in playing style and mentality, one can hardly expect to see fruits of the switch right away. Hell, the mighty Pep is struggling to get the European champions to play his way (granted, there is also a language factor there).



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...t-Goodison-Park-to-change-Evertons-style.html
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Complete shift in playing football and scoring goals... a cross comes in with 3 players against 5-6 Brom players?

Half the time Everton had at most 2 players up front trying to create space/chances... Every time that ball was crossed in by Baines there was 1 person to aim for...
 
fishfly said:
Complete shift in playing football and scoring goals... a cross comes in with 3 players against 5-6 Brom players?

Half the time Everton had at most 2 players up front trying to create space/chances... Every time that ball was crossed in by Baines there was 1 person to aim for...
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Arouna Kone and Franco di Santo were frequently deployed as the lone central figure at Wigan. Often times Kone was isolated on the ball and had to hold up to wait for the wide players. Of the other 2 ''forwards'' in Wigan's front three Jordi Gomez often fell back into the midfield to start attacking movements while Victor Moses and later Callum McManaman generally stayed wide left and occasionally came in as inside forwards.

Moyes and Martinez are polar opposites. Martinez favours fluid attacking football, Moyes had a penchant for structured, stubborn football. It will take some time to get that team to move as Martinez wants it to.
 
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thestaggy said:
Arouna Kone and Franco di Santo were frequently deployed as the lone central figure at Wigan. Often times Kone was isolated on the ball and had to hold up to wait for the wide players. Of the other 2 ''forwards'' in Wigan's front three Jordi Gomez often fell back into the midfield to start attacking movements while Victor Moses and later Callum McManaman generally stayed wide left and occasionally came in as inside forwards.

Moyes and Martinez are polar opposites. Martinez favours fluid attacking football, Moyes had a penchant for structured, stubborn football. It will take some time to get that team to move as Martinez wants it to.
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Fluid attacking football? by deploying Felliani as a CDM and only attacking in the last 15 minutes of the match, attacking corners with 3 players? 1 player in the middle of the box everytime Baines crosses the ball in is considered attacking? If these two matches that Everton's played is called attacking football then are you gonna define Barca and RM football as Godlike?

So far all I've seen in these two games are defensive football
 
fishfly said:
Fluid attacking football? by deploying Felliani as a CDM and only attacking in the last 15 minutes of the match, attacking corners with 3 players? 1 player in the middle of the box everytime Baines crosses the ball in is considered attacking? If these two matches that Everton's played is called attacking football then are you gonna define Barca and RM football as Godlike?

So far all I've seen in these two games are defensive football
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You must be the first person I've come across to label the Norwich-Everton match as a hallmark of defensive football. It was considered the game of the opening weekend by a few pundits with end to end stuff. Fellaini compiled 88 passes (tied 2nd most for the weekend) with 106 touches, or 1 touch every 51 seconds. And when in attack Fellaini made repeated lung-bursting runs into the box. Seems Everton's best player was heavily involved in a highly entertaining match so I'm not sure where you are going.

http://www.eplindex.com/37277/martinez-everton-vs-norwich-tactical-analysis.html

Against West Brom, Everton outplayed them. 62% of possession and 528 passes to 318. But, by using two CDM's to cover the back four they managed to do enough and stifle the game in the final third. Everton had something like 143 passes in the final third but just couldn't get the killer ball through. West Brom played defensively, not Everton. While not as dominant, again, Fellaini had more passes than any other Everton player and only Baines had more touches. So again, their best player was heavily involved. Also, his heat map indicated that he spent more time in the West Brom half than the Everton half.

http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/71...League-2013-2014-Everton-West-Bromwich-Albion

Martinez also has a reputation for tinkering and mixing things up, so player versatility is a trait he likes and Fellaini is versatile. Wigan would switch between a 5-4-1, 4-3-3 and a 3-4-3 (base formation), often unpredictably so. To think after a few preseason games and two league games that Martinez would have players doing exactly what he wants or even know what his players are capable of is unreasonable. One things is certain though, Fellaini is indeed playing a vital role (more touches and passes than any other Everton players) and is not sitting back watching the back four. Osman is doing that.

Once he feels he knows his players I'm sure we will see a lot more adventurous football, but it isn't as if Everton have been pulling a Stoke.
 
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thestaggy said:
You must be the first person I've come across to label the Norwich-Everton match as a hallmark of defensive football. It was considered the game of the opening weekend by a few pundits with end to end stuff. Fellaini compiled 88 passes (tied 2nd most for the weekend) with 106 touches, or 1 touch every 51 seconds. And when in attack Fellaini made repeated lung-bursting runs into the box. Seems Everton's best player was heavily involved in a highly entertaining match so I'm not sure where you are going.

http://www.eplindex.com/37277/martinez-everton-vs-norwich-tactical-analysis.html

Against West Brom, Everton outplayed them. 62% of possession and 528 passes to 318. But, by using two CDM's to cover the back four they managed to do enough and stifle the game in the final third. Everton had something like 143 passes in the final third but just couldn't get the killer ball through. West Brom played defensively, not Everton. While not as dominant, again, Fellaini had more passes than any other Everton player and only Baines had more touches. So again, their best player was heavily involved. Also, his heat map indicated that he spent more time in the West Brom half than the Everton half.

http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/71...League-2013-2014-Everton-West-Bromwich-Albion

Martinez also has a reputation for tinkering and mixing things up, so player versatility is a trait he likes and Fellaini is versatile. Wigan would switch between a 5-4-1, 4-3-3 and a 3-4-3 (base formation), often unpredictably so. To think after a few preseason games and two league games that Martinez would have players doing exactly what he wants or even know what his players are capable of is unreasonable. One things is certain though, Fellaini is indeed playing a vital role (more touches and passes than any other Everton players) and is not sitting back watching the back four. Osman is doing that.

Once he feels he knows his players I'm sure we will see a lot more adventurous football, but it isn't as if Everton have been pulling a Stoke.
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Perfect attacking football... just like what David Moyes is doing to United...
 
So transfer season over.

3 in (McCarthy, Barry and Lukaku)
2 out (Fellaini and Anichebe)

Should bolster the midfield and goal scoring which we missed in the last 2 games.
 
Niren_M said:
So transfer season over.

3 in (McCarthy, Barry and Lukaku)
2 out (Fellaini and Anichebe)

Should bolster the midfield and goal scoring which we missed in the last 2 games.
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And crucially, retained Baines. Not a bad effort at all by Martinez.
 
I fear Chelsea are going to get a late one, but great stuff from Everton so far...
 
DJ... said:
I fear Chelsea are going to get a late one, but great stuff from Everton so far...
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I think Everton are going to hold on for the win. Chelsea don't look like they have the killer ball in their locker tonight.
 
Wall said:
I think Everton are going to hold on for the win. Chelsea don't look like they have the killer ball in their locker tonight.
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Chelseas are lucky to have not conceded a second and their entire defence are now on yellows too. Desperate stuff from Chelsea, but they fight hardest when their backs are against the wall. I hope you're right...
 
DJ... said:
Chelseas are lucky to have not conceded a second and their entire defence are now on yellows too. Desperate stuff from Chelsea, but they fight hardest when their backs are against the wall. I hope you're right...
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Yep, their defending is pretty suspect right now but that's because they are pushing men forward in search of the equaliser.
 
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