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Can probably get this started now with this article I read this morning:

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SA-teams-make-history-in-new-era-Super-Rugby-20150928

Cape Town - The Lions will make history by becoming the first team to play a Super Rugby match in Japan when the new-era, 18-team competition kicks off in February.

They will face the Tokyo-based franchise at Prince Chichibu Memorial Stadium on the opening Saturday of the season (February 27) as confirmed by the draw, which was issued by SANZAR on Monday.

The Cheetahs will similarly become the first team to play the new entrant from Argentina, when they host the Buenos Aires-based team in Bloemfontein a few hours earlier on the competition’s opening evening, Friday, February 26.

The Kings return to the competition with a mouth-watering coastal derby against the Sharks, while the opening round is completed for South African teams with a north-south derby at Newlands with the Stormers hosting the Bulls.

The six South African teams are grouped in two African pools along with the new entrants from Japan and Argentina.

The existing ten Australasian teams will be divided into New Zealand and Australian pools.

The winners of each pool will earn automatic entry to the knockout Vodacom Super Rugby Finals Series. The next highest-ranked team from the African conference will also be placed in the Finals Series along with the three next highest-ranked teams from Australasian conference.

"As we stand eagerly on the cusp of a new era of Super Rugby, fans can look forward to the upcoming season with a great deal of optimism and enthusiasm,” said SANZAR interim CEO Brendan Morris.

"We are in the envious position to be delivering our great brand of rugby to new cities and international markets, unlocking a host of commercial opportunities and delivering the unbridled excitement of Super Rugby to a legion of new and existing fans.”

The African pools play home and away against teams in their pool. They play either home or away against the teams in the other African pool and their programme is completed by matches against all the teams from either the Australian or New Zealand conference.

Africa Conference 1 - which will play against the Australian conference in 2016 - is made up of the Bulls, Cheetahs, Stormers and the Japanese team.

Africa Conference 2 features the Kings, Lions, Sharks and the Argentinian team and will play against the New Zealand conference.

To lessen the travel burden on South African teams three of the Japanese entrant’s matches against SA teams will be played in Singapore. The Cheetahs will add another first to the list by appearing at the Singapore National Stadium in round three followed by the Bulls (Round 5) and Stormers (Round 12).

Morris continued: "As successful as our competition has been in the past, we cannot rest on our laurels. We want to grow our fan base and ensure existing fans stay loving our game. We will be working hard alongside our National Unions, teams, broadcasters and venues to keep finding new and innovative ways to ensure Super Rugby continues to be the best provincial rugby competition in the world both on and off the field."

The new-look competition will also be contested for a new trophy, crafted by Blue Sky Design. The chrome and gold-plated piece is intended to capture the prestige, grandeur and resilience of one of the world's toughest sporting competitions.

The 360-degree design features eight blade legs, representing the eight teams that will qualify for the Finals Series, arranged to provide an iconic representation of a rugby ball and evoke visual nostalgic links to the former trophy, now eternal property of the Highlanders.

The 13.5kg prize features a flat base which caters for engraving and seamless expansion as more teams etch their name into Super Rugby history as champions of this prestigious competition in the coming years.

The Playoffs

July 2016

22 - Brumbies v Highlanders (GIO Stadium) - 10:00
23 - Hurricanes v Sharks (Westpac Stadium) - 09:35
23 - Lions v Crusaders (Emirates Airlines Park) - 16:30
23 - Stormers v Chiefs (DHL Newlands) - 19:00
 
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The structure for next year's comp really is getting messy now.

Messy? It's ridiculous. It's a case study on how something simple is fiddled with 'till it becomes utterly incomprehensible.
 
Messy? It's ridiculous. It's a case study on how something simple is fiddled with 'till it becomes utterly incomprehensible.

So am I correct in understand this, that if you don't make it out of your pool, you'll never play anyone outside of it?
 
Excited for a competition of this scale. My concern would be the length of the season. With S18, Championship, international tours and end of year tours there is almost no break.
 
So am I correct in understand this, that if you don't make it out of your pool, you'll never play anyone outside of it?

Not entirely. You play some teams outside your pool, but for example each SA team only plays the teams from EITHER NZ or Aus. So the Sharks play all NZ teams next year and Bulls play all Aus teams next year (as an example).
 
Not entirely. You play some teams outside your pool, but for example each SA team only plays the teams from EITHER NZ or Aus. So the Sharks play all NZ teams next year and Bulls play all Aus teams next year (as an example).

Yep, saw this now. Africa conference 1 will play all Australia conference teams, and Africa conference 2 will play all NZ conference teams.
 
So am I correct in understand this, that if you don't make it out of your pool, you'll never play anyone outside of it?

My understanding, and please note, I'm no theoretical physicist, is that teams play the first round of derbies within their own conference. Then it's off to play either one of the NZ or Aus conferences (so five games away). Finally it's back for a second round of derbies but this time with the other SA conference.
After those games, the top four from each conference automatically go through to finals stage (so two SA teams, one Aus and one NZ team)... There will be another four wild card teams but I think voodoo is involved in how they qualify to get through.
 
My understanding, and please note, I'm no theoretical physicist, is that teams play the first round of derbies within their own conference. Then it's off to play either one of the NZ or Aus conferences (so five games away). Finally it's back for a second round of derbies but this time with the other SA conference.
After those games, the top four from each conference automatically go through to finals stage (so two SA teams, one Aus and one NZ team)... There will be another four wild card teams but I think voodoo is involved in how they qualify to get through.

The 2nd best team in the Africa group qualifies, and the 3 next best teams in the Australian group qualify.

It's not that hard guys, only 7 tables are needed. :O

An 'overall' log with all 18 teams is only used to decide who will host matches, but not who plays in them.
 
So bek kort jam!

Well I'm looking at the Currie Cup...

Sharks are only getting back JP Pietersen from the world cup, so they can't improve much from where they are now. Jury's still out on Nollis and the Bulle(only returning players will be Kriel, Pollard and Paige, Strauss and Nyakane), but they should at least be in third, with Eddie Jones and the Stormers in second.

There is of course the good chance of Ackerman being Bok coach, depending on how political the next appointment will be.
 
Well I'm looking at the Currie Cup...

Sharks are only getting back JP Pietersen from the world cup, so they can't improve much from where they are now. Jury's still out on Nollis and the Bulle(only returning players will be Kriel, Pollard and Paige, Strauss and Nyakane), but they should at least be in third, with Eddie Jones and the Stormers in second.

The WPRU wants to appoint another technical coach, plus as per the rumours 10 more players. Eddie Jones will probably aim to have the Stormers to be top 3 competitive by 2017, next year will be pretty much trial and error.

The above questions how much the other teams will change… The Sharks is also receiving Willie le Roux.
 
Who are those 10 players the Stormers want on their books. Fly half and scrum half is top priority
 
Who are those 10 players the Stormers want on their books. Fly half and scrum half is top priority

No names has been mentioned, the Stormers statement,

http://thestormers.com/eddie-jones-coup-for-dhl-stormers/

Jones will arrive in Cape Town at the conclusion of his 2015 Rugby World Cup commitments with Japan’s national team.

“We will get Eddie here as soon as we can after the Rugby World Cup, so he can get started with his 2016 preparations. He is obviously focusing on Japan’s World Cup campaign at present, where he has already made a significant impact, but we look forward to welcoming him here as soon as he is able to get here,” said Smal, WP’s Director of Rugby.

Smal, meanwhile, also confirmed that Robbie Fleck (attack) and Paul Treu (defence) would remain in their respective Super Rugby roles, with a new senior forwards coach potentially on the union’s shopping list ahead of 2016.

WP Rugby recently confirmed the signing of outstanding young Springbok lock Pieter-Steph du Toit, as well as the retention of four young Bok stars, Frans Malherbe, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi and Damian de Allende on long-term deals.

New signings Jano Vermaak (scrumhalf) and JP Smith (prop) are already part of DHL WP’s Absa Currie Cup squad, whilst experienced loosehead prop JC Janse van Rensburg and Springbok speedster Cornal Hendricks will join WP Rugby ahead of the DHL Stormers’ 2016 Vodacom Super Rugby season.

Said Smal: “Our new Absa Currie Cup coaching team of John Dobson, Dawie Snyman, Paul Treu and Vlok Cilliers is working well together and Robbie Fleck has done very well in his new role as head coach of our Under-21 team. Having a guy like Eddie to learn from could only be a good thing for all of our coaches here at WP Rugby – from junior level upwards.

“Eddie’s appointment, along with our new player acquisitions – with more signings to still be revealed, is a clear sign of our intentions to challenge for Super Rugby silverware and to continue with our success in local competitions, both at senior and junior level.”

Word has it that there will be development players… Maybe those EP boys :whistling:
 
Why classify the pools?

Why not make it Pool 1, Pool 2, etc. and do a draw of all the teams to see what pool they will be in and each year it would be different?
 
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