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Old Age Pension Application Form
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Roo!
Expert Member
You need to complete the form in front of a SASSA officer, so having the forms beforehand will not help. Sorry!
RogueTr00per
Honorary Master
Fair enough, but is it possible to see the forms so I can clue my old man up on how to complete it? His eyesight is not the greatest and he will not fill it in correctly!!
Pitbull
Verboten
My dad spent a day applying.
He gets a pension and figured he'll also get some state pension as a grant. After spending the WHOLE day there. They said he can't apply as he's getting pension already
He gets a pension and figured he'll also get some state pension as a grant. After spending the WHOLE day there. They said he can't apply as he's getting pension already
RogueTr00per
Honorary Master
So my old man only gets an RA monthly payment of R513 per month. The rest of his living expenses are paid by me. Only one debit order goes off his account monthly and i transfer about 2k per month to cover that plus some ATM withdrawals.
Will only the R513 RA count against the pension grant that they would pay him?
Will only the R513 RA count against the pension grant that they would pay him?
supersunbird
Honorary Master
Yes, but he will still get some.
MickeyD
RIP
He should be fine:
be a South African citizen or permanent resident
live in South Africa
not receive any other social grant for yourself
not be cared for in a state institution
not earn more than R64 680 per year or own assets worth more than R930 600 if you are single
not have a combined income of more than R129 360 per year if you are married, not have assets worth more than R1 861 200.
http://www.gov.za/services/social-benefits-retirement-and-old-age/old-age-pension
be a South African citizen or permanent resident
live in South Africa
not receive any other social grant for yourself
not be cared for in a state institution
not earn more than R64 680 per year or own assets worth more than R930 600 if you are single
not have a combined income of more than R129 360 per year if you are married, not have assets worth more than R1 861 200.
http://www.gov.za/services/social-benefits-retirement-and-old-age/old-age-pension
MickeyD
RIP
RogueTr00per
Honorary Master
Thanks guys, I will read through all the material and firmly coerce the old man to go and apply. He's 72 now and been retired for about ten years being supported by yours truly for the most part! Been refusing to go apply for several years despite having no income.
MickeyD
RIP
SASSA card also gets him discounts at some places...
RogueTr00per
Honorary Master
OK, so I read through the SASSA doccies, and they are a bit vague.
I gather he needs to take his:
1) ID document
2) Proof of marriage certificate or death certificate of spouse
3) Proof of income and assets
For point 3, what does he need? 3 months bank statements and if so do they need to be stamped by the bank (FNB)?
Does he need to take his SARS tax reference number?
How does he prove he doesn't have assets any longer beyond his vehicle?
He sold the house to my sis, is that going to complicate things? No money changed hands so she owes him (or his estate if he passes) about 850k on paper.
I gather he needs to take his:
1) ID document
2) Proof of marriage certificate or death certificate of spouse
3) Proof of income and assets
For point 3, what does he need? 3 months bank statements and if so do they need to be stamped by the bank (FNB)?
Does he need to take his SARS tax reference number?
How does he prove he doesn't have assets any longer beyond his vehicle?
He sold the house to my sis, is that going to complicate things? No money changed hands so she owes him (or his estate if he passes) about 850k on paper.
RogueTr00per
Honorary Master
OK, so depending what the 3 months statements show, explain my deposits. Usually I EFT between 1.5k and 2k.
Ugh, I see in May he had me sell his Vodacom shares, which resulted in a transfer into his account of about 6k. Then he went and bought new tyres for his car and some other odds and ends. Money all gone
Explaining this shouldn't be a problem will it? ... as it was a once off thing and now he has even less to his name.
The_Ogre
Honorary Master
Nee man pitte!My dad spent a day applying.
He gets a pension and figured he'll also get some state pension as a grant. After spending the WHOLE day there. They said he can't apply as he's getting pension already
Its fraud if you receive a government pension as well as income from another source. However its not uncommon for people to receive a pension while working.
God did you guys see the queues at Shoprite and PicknPay today? :wtf:
R13...
Honorary Master
Nee man pitte!
Its fraud if you receive a government pension as well as income from another source. However its not uncommon for people to receive a pension while working.
God did you guys see the queues at Shoprite and PicknPay today? :wtf:
SASSA are lax with their checks - a family member of mine receives the state pension even while receiving his employer pension. You'd think something like that should be dead easy to check.
RogueTr00per
Honorary Master
Something like this?
I'll also give him print outs showing the sale of his Vodacom YeboYethu shares which would have reflected in his bank statement 2 months ago.