Old MacBook Pros encounter problems due to macOS Big Sur

[bwana]

Apple's new macOS operating system, Big Sur, is making older MacBook Pro laptops - those which were built from late 2013 to mid-2014 - stop working.

My MBP is a mid 2014 but it's still on 10.13 (High Sierra) anyway.

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Midi keyboards is still relevant today in the music industry. a colleague of mine uses his Macbook to play the piano, the "piano" is just a USB MIDI keyboard, so his options is open, playing from SFX to flutes on the thing.
So, everytime you see a MacBook on top of someone's "piano" or keyboard, it may be the music making device, and not the keyboard itself.
PreviousIy, thought they used Macbooks as the digital sheetpaper display. They could have used iPads for that.

Have you heard of the T2 Chip on macbooks causing amok with the USB2.0 devices (MIDI to USB, USB sound cards which is not USB3.0) which caused audio pops/clicks and more?

Nope, work only on Windows boxes, because no one wants to pay premium price for a box that does nothing better, than a standard Windows box

 

[Rickster]

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So on the macbook line, they have ~30 device variants to test that pretty much all use a similar hardware configuration. That QA testing must be quite difficult to test for all those hardware variants compared to MS...

Why you posting system requirements for MacOS Mojave and not Big Sur?

 

[Johnatan56]

Why you posting system requirements for MacOS Mojave and not Big Sur?

Because I was checking mabooks and for that it's the same. They just dropped some 2012/2013 Macs for Big Sur.

Still interacting how W10 is running on some hardware from around 2008/2009.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

Apple, it just Doesn't works...

FTFY,

 

[noxibox]

and Apple Support have also received numerous reports of this issue.

That's not Apple Support. It's a community forum.

Hopefully people are reporting the problem to Apple.

 

[noxibox]

Im interested to know what those things are.
I despise MacOS, I use it only because of the *nix backend but its definitely a lot less customizable and in many regards less intuitive than Windows.

Neither are intuitive. There are no intuitive interfaces. Merely one works better and more smoothly for the person who has a preference for it. And there really are loads of things that MacOS which Windows lacks. Keyboard shortcuts are one of them. Windows is like a stone age system in comparison. Although Microsoft has made some little improvements over the years they're still way behind.

I can't think of anything I'd actually need to customise that can't be in MacOS. But then I don't waste time fiddling with pointless customisations like I did when I was younger.

Where's the direct access to characters from the keyboard on Windows? Dictionary? How does it still not have either of these built in?

Ultimately there is no best system. Only what works for the person using it. People who use MacOS will find Windows bizarre and deficient. Using both I'm regularly reminded of the flaws in each. But if I could use only one it would definitely be MacOS.

The moving of cursor and home/end part is literally the most frustrating part of MacOS for me. It only works on the Mac, when you work in remote applications like Linux or Windows servers then that all falls away. As a result I use a Windows keyboard on my MBP now.

That would be a deficiency in the remoting software. It needs to map those commands. Same happens from Windows when connecting to a shell on a Unix system. Terminal type has to be set correctly and the remote system's shell needs to be configured to handle the keystrokes it is receiving the way you want them handled.

The touchpad on a Macbook though is a thing of beauty, no other device even comes close to it. I never use it anymore because my Logitech MX master 2s has gesture support and it works well enough to not lose any functionality.

Now to me that mouse is useless because it isn't symmetrical. That forces me to always use it on one side of my machine. I rarely use mice, but when I do I only use those that are symmetrical.

 

[Smiley_lauf]

It is simple for me...I can't afford Apple/MacOS...even second hand products. I can be up and running and productive with a fraction of the cost using Windows based machines. I have T420 ThinkPad from 2008, an I just upgraded to SSD and added more RAM...and it is a sweet machine...handed down to my niece and she is set up for the her high school work. my 2c. Upgrade a Windows machine hardware and you are good to go for a few more years. We need to find ways to recycle our "old" machines and revive them easily. Not locked into a hardware that expires.