OMG, Alex Jones sprouting crap again

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I see nothing that disproves the possibility of the bolded text in this quote. The rest is sensationalist, I admit. But that's because Alex Jones' market. Tinfoil hatters and redneck hicks in the Deep South. However, I most certainly am not one of those idiots and I sure as hell don't support conspiracy theories. The point here is that some of the above is not so much conspiracy, as informed speculative theory.

The way science works is like this: you get a problem. You investigate and find a solution. You then test the solution until it breaks and then you find a new one, and so on. Bottom line, nothing is considered "impossible" until it has been proven to be impossible. Even then, the "impossible" are proven possible some time later.

The way I see it, you're either part of the science community, or part of the nutcase community.

By saying Alex Jones is spouting crap, without considering and analyzing everything he puts forward individually, is a first class ticket to community number two.

Of course, I guess 90% of it is total crap. But I don't concern myself with that. I worry more about the 10% that is also considered conspiracy theory tosh, when it sounds a lot more like philosophy waiting to happen. When you look at the whole New World Order nutjob conspiracy, the question is not "why?" it is "why not?".

The conspiracy theorists can name a billion reasons why. Can you name a few "why not"?
 
I think Alex Jones speaks a lot of truth, and he is doing a good job informing the people.

If you look into the subjects he talks about, it is very hard to disprove or dismiss things that he says.

Not to mention that most things that he predicts come to be true.

I listen to his radio show from time to time when he has good guests on, and he has some really good guests. Ex CIA, FBI, Polititians, Authors and Scholars.

Some of you may see them as Extremists, but that is just ignorance.
 
Fieldy said:
I think Alex Jones speaks a lot of truth, and he is doing a good job informing the people.

If you look into the subjects he talks about, it is very hard to disprove or dismiss things that he says.

Not to mention that most things that he predicts come to be true.

I listen to his radio show from time to time when he has good guests on, and he has some really good guests. Ex CIA, FBI, Polititians, Authors and Scholars.

Some of you may see them as Extremists, but that is just ignorance.
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It's also very hard to prove with actual evidence...
 
What I enjoy here.. is how much Alan sounds like Alex Jones.. man thats funny.
 
w1z4rd is my new fanboi :cool:

My newspaper column this week was about the difference between a political party and a political movement - and I can't say I'm happy to see the lessons of that difference being highlighted so intensely and so negatively as they are with today's news that Van Jones was forced out of the Obama administration (and let's be real clear, despite the "resignation" billing, the White House's pathetic behavior this week makes clear Jones was forced out by the higher ups). This is a serious tragedy for the progressive movement on three levels.

First and foremost, Jones was one of the only movement progressives in a policymaking position in the Obama White House. By that I mean, he was one of the only people in the White House who came out of grassroots movement work and not just political/partisan hack work, and one of the only movement progressives put in a policymaking job, and not ghettoized into a political/tactical job. Whenever I got sick to my stomach at the thought of Obama's Team of Corporate Zombies - people like Rahm Emanuel, Tim Geithner, Larry Summers and Jim Messina - running the show, I was able to at least tell myself that hey, someone like Van Jones is at least in there somewhere fighting the good fight as he always has. No more - and that's a damn shame.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/taking-the-movement-out-o_b_278411.html

Ag shame poor w1z4rd. Judging by this nut your pals are more in line with Alex Jones....
 
Arbiter said:
I see nothing that disproves the possibility of the bolded text in this quote.
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So? There's nothing that proves it conclusively either.

And if you're going to make outlandish claims, you'll need to back it up with real evidence!
 
In general I don't get involved in "truth vs bulltosh" debates, but this should be quite interesting.

As far as I've read, the New World Order is a very big conspiracy that takes a lot of salt to swallow whole. That's why no one believes it. I find it easier to break it down into smaller bits and then look at its building blocks. All that stuff about blue blood and occult is bollocks.

The fundamental concept is that money can buy everything and that hundreds and hundreds of billions can buy the world. You only have to trace the money.

I'm writing a bit of a history thing on the German families and corporations today that funded Hitler's NAZI party. I'd post it in a new thread here, if anyone were interested?
 
Arbiter said:
In general I don't get involved in "truth vs bulltosh" debates, but this should be quite interesting.

As far as I've read, the New World Order is a very big conspiracy that takes a lot of salt to swallow whole. That's why no one believes it. I find it easier to break it down into smaller bits and then look at its building blocks. All that stuff about blue blood and occult is bollocks.

The fundamental concept is that money can buy everything and that hundreds and hundreds of billions can buy the world. You only have to trace the money.

I'm writing a bit of a history thing on the German families and corporations today that funded Hitler's NAZI party. I'd post it in a new thread here, if anyone were interested?
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Please do...at least we can Godwin that thread right off!
 
Maybe the fact that more than 50% of the entire BMW company is owned by a single family that is descendant from one of Hitler's primary funders, might interest you?
 
Arbiter said:
Maybe the fact that more than 50% of the entire BMW company is owned by a single family that is descendant from one of Hitler's primary funders, might interest you?
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Wow! Well that just proves....oh hang on....it proves absolutely diddly-squat. It's true that BMW has a 49% free float, but what on earth does their private ownership portion have to do with world affairs?
 
IG Farben was broken up because it used slave labour in its facilities in WWII. BMW also used slave labour in their facilities and they're going on quite comfortably. The guy who owned more than 30% of BMW in 1933, was one of the 16 main contributors to the Nazi party's funds.

Today, because of his inhuman actions, his descendants own the majority of a multi-hundred billion dollar company.
 
Arbiter said:
IG Farben was broken up because it used slave labour in its facilities in WWII. BMW also used slave labour in their facilities and they're going on quite comfortably. The guy who owned more than 30% of BMW in 1933, was one of the 16 main contributors to the Nazi party's funds.

Today, because of his inhuman actions, his descendants own the majority of a multi-hundred billion dollar company.
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Your point?
 
Deutsche Bank announced in 1999 that it was involved in the construction of the Auschwitz camp, along with the funding of Hitler's campaign and war effort. To date, it has been sued over $ 5 billion by Holocaust survivors.

Should BMW, or at the very least the multi-multi-billionaire owners of the company, not have suffered similar consequences?
 
Arbiter said:
Deutsche Bank announced in 1999 that it was involved in the construction of the Auschwitz camp, along with the funding of Hitler's campaign and war effort. To date, it has been sued over $ 5 billion by Holocaust survivors.

Should BMW, or at the very least the multi-multi-billionaire owners of the company, not have suffered similar consequences?
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Even if what you say is true, which I'm not inclined to go and research now, what is your point? That there is some conspiracy to protect the family who own a majority stake in BMW?
 
I'm not making accusations, just observations. You seem unable to understand that.

It is true and if you really want to, I can link you all the relevant Wikipedia entries. Unless, of course, they are also in on it..........

No, I do not wear a tinfoil hat. I don't think Bush has a tail. I doubt the Queen has a forked toungue. David Icke is a retarded sycophant who targets the most retarded market in the world. I don't think anyone is out to get us. I have zero time for conspiracy theorist idiocy.

I'm saying I find it strange and unjust that the family behind BMW escaped any prosecution for their acts, whereas Deustche Bank was sued for billions and IG Farben was broken up.
 
And how about the others? Telefunken? AEG? OSRAM?

And the four companies IG Farben was broke up into, Bayer (number 3 biggest pharma in the world), BASF, Hoechst (now global pharma giant Sanofi-Aventis) and Agfa?

Evonik Industries, formerly known as Degussa, (a company started by a Jew, by the way) who were legally the main manufacturer and distributor of Zyklon B, the pesticide used to kill 7 million Jews, were untouched?
 
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