One Year On - Solar Installation

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I checked and yesterday marked one year of us having had the PV panels, MPPT, control unit and associated hardware installed to complement our inverter and LA batteries that we had previously installed for load shedding purposes. While I am not going to go in to as much detail as @Priapus did in his one year update thread, I wanted to put down some thoughts and reflections that I hope could be of use for others. To recap what we have at the moment...

Victron Multiplus 3kVa 48v Inverter/Charger
Four OmniPower 12V 120Ah OPR Deep Cycle Rechargeable AGM/Gel Hybrid VRLA Batteries
Victron Energy SmartSolar MPPT 250/70-Tr Solar Charge Controller
Victron Venus GX
Ten CanadianSolar 360w PV panels

We started with just the inverter and LA batteries that my fiancé purchased, purely with load shedding in mind although I would have gone with a larger inverter and LFP batteries had I been given the choice. The inverter and batteries did their job for load shedding though with only our oven, bedroom AC unit and two sets of plugs in the kitchen not being available when mains electricity supply was down. Eight months on my future father-in-law had spare PV panels after installing ninety at their factory in conjunction with a 25kVa grid tied inverter so we jumped at the chance to get a few along with the necessary hardware. I contacted the installer who installed our inverter and batteries originally, arranged for him to come have a look at our roof space and advise on what would be the best way forward to install ten PV panels. Unfortunately we discovered that our available North facing roof space was far from ideal in that it wouldn't take more than three or four PV panels and would be compromised by shade in winter, forcing us to use an East and West arrangement with two strings of five PV panels which is also not ideal.

Accepting the limitations of using LA batteries and an East/West split in PV panels, I am happy with how the system has performed thus far even though it falls short of other MyBB user systems in terms of PV generation, cost saving and reduction of use of mains supply from CoJ. We have had one issue in the last year with the inverter shutting itself off, I can't remember if it was overload or temperature but it lasted for a minute and twenty six seconds while another occasion saw us rely solely on PV and batteries for a couple of days when we had a main supply break which needed a repair. Unlike other MyBB users, we were coming off a low base before installing the PV, our average daily use was around 12kWh as we have gas geysers and a gas stove, with only occasional use of the oven and bedroom AC unit and the majority of the lights we use being LED's. This winter has seen our heaviest use of mains supply electricity, mainly due to it being the first with our son and needing to keep his room warm over night using at least one electric heater which we never used before, we have a wood Morso fireplace that we use at night and a gas heater for the mornings to take the chill out the house.

We have changed how we use appliances in the house to maximise use of PV generation, so only run heavy use appliances like the dishwasher and washing machine after a certain time in the morning and only one at a time, which the inverter has managed well. Again winter is a challenge, due to the reduction in daylight hours but also the angle of the sun meaning the East and West PV configuration is less effective but also bringing in more shade due to large tree's close to our house. I'll be looking at ways to alleviate this without cutting tree's down however, partly because I prefer not to but mostly because the trees providing most of the shade are CoJ trees so we aren't allowed to even trim them. PV generation for the last year has been 2353.66 kWh with mains supply of 3603 kWh so there is definitely room for improvement in both PV generation and battery use although both will take some work and additional cost. Our peak PV generation has been 11.04 kWh in a day in early January 2021 but we have to remember that we don't have high or long duration loads like an electric geyser or pool so one of the best ways to make better use of PV generation will be to get LFP batteries with a higher capacity that we can use during non PV generation to reduce mains supply use and to better utilise the existing PV.

Plans at the moment are to replace the LA batteries with LFP when the LA's need replacing, I'll see if I can get more use out of the LA's during summer when early morning loads are light and PV generation starts earlier.
 
Thanks for the post. Was a fun read. I wish I could say I find myself in a similar situation as you, but with LFP batteries, but sadly due to my curse it seems I have one of the only three multiplus units in the country to have an issue. This afternoon at 3pm marks a week of it being installed and it's just been stuck in absorption mode. Not using the panels or batteries at all, simply keeping the batteries topped up from the grid. So much fun. The reseller was supposed to come out yesterday but cudnt, probly cuz who wants to right after a long weekend.

Apparently I'm going to hear from them today, so fingers crossed I can actually get some data starting soon, or perhaps just more hurry up and wait stories
 
What was your electricity bill before installation?
 
That just sounds like a setting issue. Is it set in "Optimized (With BatterLife)" mode?
Sorry OP, don't mean to hijack the thread, so I'll just say it was at first yes, then they turned it off remotely but still didn't seem to help. Victron support even logged in and did a beta firmware update but no dice. The unofficial verdict was that the batteries are not syncing up properly, so let's see what happens today
 
Thanks for the post. Was a fun read. I wish I could say I find myself in a similar situation as you, but with LFP batteries, but sadly due to my curse it seems I have one of the only three multiplus units in the country to have an issue. This afternoon at 3pm marks a week of it being installed and it's just been stuck in absorption mode. Not using the panels or batteries at all, simply keeping the batteries topped up from the grid. So much fun. The reseller was supposed to come out yesterday but cudnt, probly cuz who wants to right after a long weekend.

Apparently I'm going to hear from them today, so fingers crossed I can actually get some data starting soon, or perhaps just more hurry up and wait stories

That is not good to hear, I hope that you find a resolution soon. What MultiPlus do you have?
 
Apologies for Hijacking this thread,
I have an EasySolar-II 48/3000/35-32 MPPT 250/70 GX looking to sell it?
Its a few months old, practically new, looking to upgrade to 5000va
Asking price R22K
 
29th March was a classic rollercoaster of a day, similar in many ways to when we had our PV installed, not everything goes according to plan.

We had bought three PylonTech US3000C's earlier in the year along with all the necessary communication cabling, DC wiring, DC fuses, etc, etc. but had been waiting on a server cabinet to get them installed to replace the existing LA batteries. The server cabinet manufacturer ETA was for this last Monday, so a friend who does inverter, battery, PV, ESS installations scheduled yesterday for the install but of course the server cabinet was late. We decided to push on anyway and started the install by getting the old LA batteries out and get everything ready for the PylonTech's to be connected. an hour or so in my wife says the server cabinet has arrived an I ask her to bring it home but we quickly decide it is going to be too large and we'll keep it for our next house which is a story for another time.

So we installed the batteries with PylonTech mounts for now, got all the cabling in, new DC fuses, DC fuse holder, communication cable from the Venus GX to master battery, communication cable between batteries, cabling between batteries and the battery earthing before cleaning some of he existing wiring up and making everything look even neater than it was before. We double checked all the wiring and cabling and connections and fired up the battery packs but just could not get the Venus GX to see the battery/batteries no matter what we tried, even with remote support from a Victron specialist, who had to come out in the end. He found that all of our Victron devices firmware was at least one version out of date so updated all of them which sorted the issue out and he did the setup in the Venus GX for the new batteries while he was at it.

And we were good to go, I set the batteries to charge from 16:00 until what I thought was midnight but turned out it was actually 02:00, let CityPower charge them and then they started discharging from 02:00 with our loads at around 350w on average. The plan is to discharge from battery from around 22:00 at night and then let the PV charge them the next day but we'll see how it goes, it will change in winter when we use a 400w wall panel heater in our sons rooms. At least we have a lot more useable battery storage now as the rumours my wife is hearing is that more consistent load shedding is on the way...

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P.S. Interestingly, a theory I had regarding the LA batteries turned out not to be true, I thought one may have died which brought the string down but they were all at a little over 13V when I pulled them out and all show as 'good' on my car battery chargers.
 
29th March was a classic rollercoaster of a day, similar in many ways to when we had our PV installed, not everything goes according to plan.

We had bought three PylonTech US3000C's earlier in the year along with all the necessary communication cabling, DC wiring, DC fuses, etc, etc. but had been waiting on a server cabinet to get them installed to replace the existing LA batteries. The server cabinet manufacturer ETA was for this last Monday, so a friend who does inverter, battery, PV, ESS installations scheduled yesterday for the install but of course the server cabinet was late. We decided to push on anyway and started the install by getting the old LA batteries out and get everything ready for the PylonTech's to be connected. an hour or so in my wife says the server cabinet has arrived an I ask her to bring it home but we quickly decide it is going to be too large and we'll keep it for our next house which is a story for another time.

So we installed the batteries with PylonTech mounts for now, got all the cabling in, new DC fuses, DC fuse holder, communication cable from the Venus GX to master battery, communication cable between batteries, cabling between batteries and the battery earthing before cleaning some of he existing wiring up and making everything look even neater than it was before. We double checked all the wiring and cabling and connections and fired up the battery packs but just could not get the Venus GX to see the battery/batteries no matter what we tried, even with remote support from a Victron specialist, who had to come out in the end. He found that all of our Victron devices firmware was at least one version out of date so updated all of them which sorted the issue out and he did the setup in the Venus GX for the new batteries while he was at it.

And we were good to go, I set the batteries to charge from 16:00 until what I thought was midnight but turned out it was actually 02:00, let CityPower charge them and then they started discharging from 02:00 with our loads at around 350w on average. The plan is to discharge from battery from around 22:00 at night and then let the PV charge them the next day but we'll see how it goes, it will change in winter when we use a 400w wall panel heater in our sons rooms. At least we have a lot more useable battery storage now as the rumours my wife is hearing is that more consistent load shedding is on the way...

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P.S. Interestingly, a theory I had regarding the LA batteries turned out not to be true, I thought one may have died which brought the string down but they were all at a little over 13V when I pulled them out and all show as 'good' on my car battery chargers.
Rumours, you can'y really go by them, sadly the load shedding thing is ever looming over our heads as we're mostly sitting on the edge. But to say we're going to have more or less isn't easy to say as it entirely depends on the power stations.
Though getting more batteries are never a bad thing, what is your battery capabilities now?
 
Rumours, you can'y really go by them, sadly the load shedding thing is ever looming over our heads as we're mostly sitting on the edge. But to say we're going to have more or less isn't easy to say as it entirely depends on the power stations.
Though getting more batteries are never a bad thing, what is your battery capabilities now?

Yeah sure, that is why I said rumours, some of their companies technicians are close to people on the ground at Eskom and CityPower so we hear things all the time.

The three US3000C's are rated at 95% DOD so in theory are capable of supplying 9.975kWh. I don't want to take them to such a low DOD so am working with a 20% DOD figure so they are then capable of supplying 8.4kWh. It doesn't sound like much but I ran the house on batteries from 22:00 last night and they hit a low of 65% SOC this morning so we have some headroom.
 
Yeah sure, that is why I said rumours, some of their companies technicians are close to people on the ground at Eskom and CityPower so we hear things all the time.

The three US3000C's are rated at 95% DOD so in theory are capable of supplying 9.975kWh. I don't want to take them to such a low DOD so am working with a 20% DOD figure so they are then capable of supplying 8.4kWh. It doesn't sound like much but I ran the house on batteries from 22:00 last night and they hit a low of 65% SOC this morning so we have some headroom.
8.4 sounds like a lot to me :-)
 
This is what proper batteries, brands aside, allow you to do...

Depending on the weather forecast I am running the house on battery from 20:00 at night until PV takes over the next day which is around 08:00 at the moment depending on the load in the house. The batteries get to around 55% - 60% SOC so we have some spare capacity but with winter approaching I don't intend on pushing them too far as we don't have an ideal PV setup. The consumption and from grid figures are only what is run through our inverter, our oven, bedroom AC and two sets of plugs in the kitchen used for the electric kettle and toaster don't even know there is an inverter so actual from grid and consumption is slightly higher.

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This is what proper batteries, brands aside, allow you to do...

Depending on the weather forecast I am running the house on battery from 20:00 at night until PV takes over the next day which is around 08:00 at the moment depending on the load in the house. The batteries get to around 55% - 60% SOC so we have some spare capacity but with winter approaching I don't intend on pushing them too far as we don't have an ideal PV setup. The consumption and from grid figures are only what is run through our inverter, our oven, bedroom AC and two sets of plugs in the kitchen used for the electric kettle and toaster don't even know there is an inverter so actual from grid and consumption is slightly higher.

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100% agree with that statement! Everything on my side is essential (oven and induction stove included) with 0kw from Eskom

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Winter is well on it's way with both the amount of sunlight per day decreasing and the angle of the sun on our PV arrays changing to be less effective but we are still making decent PV from our little system and the new batteries are proving their worth. We had load shedding last night from 18:00 - 20:30 or thereabout and at the moment I have set the ESS to use battery from 20:00 at night until 16:00 in the afternoon. The batteries are currently sitting at 43% SOC with the washing machine on and 800w of PV being produced, assuming we have good weather today the batteries should be charged and ready by 16:00 for more load shedding at 18:00 again. We will use the batteries less and less at night as winter gets darker and colder, we have a wall mounted heater in our sons room which we leave on overnight and less effective daylight means charging the batteries and running the house is a harder task.
 
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