Online Casino

[marco79]

I want to start trying my luck.
How does the payins & payouts work?
I've heard of Piggs Peak casino but they are in Swaziland. Can we join here in SA and will they pay money into your account if you cash out?
Any recommendations for other online casinos.

 

[Shake&Bake]

Piggs will pay into your account, credit card or current accounts.
Only gamble with that which you can afford.
I personally only gamble like once every 4 or 5 months now and that's at GrandWest.
Never really liked online casinos.

Somehow I can convince myself that I can beat the system better at land based casinos
I don't trust online casinos and slots - they can track you more effectively, your winnings that is.

 

[killadoob]

Marco dude i am going to say do not waste your salary money on this and remember this:

GAMBLE ONLY WITH SPARE MONEY!!!!!!!

online gambling is the worst kind of gambling you can get because it's right there at your finger tips, no need to mission to get your fix .

Piggspeak is excellent for poker.

 

[marco79]

Thanks for the advice. I was only planning on spending about R200 per month. If I loose it once off i'll have to wait till next month.

 

[Shake&Bake]

That's the way it always starts
Agh only R200, what's another R200 and then I won't play next month

Rather go to a land based casino and treat yourself and family to dinner and spend the R200 at the slots or whatever, then the other R200-R600 on the night would've at least been burnt for a good cause - your belly

 

[marco79]

Good idea there Shake&Bake!

I am just checking whether anyone on this forum had any luck or bad experiences from online casinos.

 

[killadoob]

Loads of people have luck but gambling should be done as a hobbie with money you have to spare and you should never think to yourself you will win at a casino because your setting yourself up for addiction.

Casino's i have heard pay-out 10% of what goes into machines which is farking low, you have a 10% chance of winning at casino's on or offline.

Poker is a game of pure luck and once you hit the big spending table online i am sure they are rigged and some of the players are pro poker players that work for the casino.

 

[Sparhawk]

Poker is not ONLY a game of luck killadoob, it takes considerable skill to know what hand to play at what position in the game. Poker costs less money than slot machines to play as the only time you have to pay is when the small blind big blind comes around. Other than that if your hole cards are no good it wont cost you money to fold. Marco, online poker is the best gambling game to play online and there are many freeroll tournaments to play everyday that wont cost you a cent. You can take your time to learn how the game develops before you spend your own cash. I would recommend Pigs Peak, silver Sands and my personal favourite Party Poker. Good Luck

 

[killadoob]

I think poker is 10% skills and 90% cards.

How can you be skilled at poker when your chasing a straight and the cards do not come? you can be the bestest poker player on the planet but if your not landing good hands your 10% skill means f-all if you ask me .

Poker just like any other gambling is luck as you need luck to land hands The 10% skill is bluffing, good raising and what not but saying poker does not involve luck is crazy talk.

I play poker alot, texas hold em and some days you hit nothing more than trip 6's. Other days your hitting full house every 4th hand.

I will however agree that poker is much better than slots.

 

[Nick333]

I think poker is 10% skills and 90% cards.

How can you be skilled at poker when your chasing a straight and the cards do not come? you can be the bestest poker player on the planet but if your not landing good hands your 10% skill means f-all if you ask me .

Poker just like any other gambling is luck as you need luck to land hands The 10% skill is bluffing, good raising and what not but saying poker does not involve luck is crazy talk.

I play poker alot, texas hold em and some days you hit nothing more than trip 6's. Other days your hitting full house every 4th hand.

I will however agree that poker is much better than slots.

Well thankfully thats what most people think.

Poker requires patience, self-control, an ability to calculate odds on the fly, an ability to read people and... did I mention patience and self-control?

Theres a reason why a few players consistently finish in the money. If it was just gambling it would be crazily coincidental

Sure most casual poker players will get lucky and win big from time to time but they will lose just as often. And they will almost always get taken out very early in tournament play.

In your example of chasing a straight: If you know the odds of hitting a straight and are willing to fold if the pot odds are no longer worth the risks, it becomes a calculated risk. If you've been paying attention to the other players at the table and know how to read their bets and know how to bet to scare off weak hands you can significantly up your odds.

Theres a lot more to it than that even.

 

[gregmcc]

R200 a month - wow - you have money to throw around.

Online is pure luck - there's almost zero skill. With poker you cant really judge your opponents.

Casino's don't make millions for nothings. Its a game of odds - keep at it long enough and odds are your loose it all.

 

[marco79]

Thanx for all the advice. I am not interested in the online casinos anymore. I will stick to the free poker games.

I will however try my luck at the Wild Coast Casino over the Easter Weekend. Last time I was there (Dec 08) I left with R2100 more in my pocket than what I arrived with.

 

[Shake&Bake]

Yeah man - play freerolls and micro Single Table Tourneys from those winnings.
Build a bankroll with patience.
And the "luck factor" in poker is rather miniscule.
If you're playing looking to get lucky - then you're going about it all wrong.
Even in online poker, it is possible to get a read on players and what they are doing.
Position and patience.
Cards are not everything, but then again - neither is constant bluffing

 

[killadoob]

Dude have you seen how people play online? Maybe in pro tournaments when people don't go all in before the first card has been turned yes there is some skill but online okes will pull you all in at any point and reading players online is just rubbish talk as they are crazy and bet big on anything.

I can also say that even at a pro tournament maybe some guys do get through alot more but if they are not hitting hands the whole night they won't get anywhere, there is no doubt that poker requires some skill but you need luck on your side as well. You can fold all night and play only certain hands but if cards are turning up in your favour all night how do you suppose you will win.

 

[Shake&Bake]

Patience comes to mind again
The all-in donkeys are there on most sites.
If in a tourney, it's all about waiting for them to knock each other out - I'm talking about Single Table Tourney specifically.
In the lower or free games - you're going to find a lot of all-in-donkeys.
The mid-range limits still have them lurking around.

In cash games - sure they are there, but you've just not got to allow yourself to become impatient and make bad decisions.

Yes, luck is a factor - but not a large one.
I've sucked out on the river a few times, but only when I thought I had the best hand on the flop or turn, only to see that I've been outplayed by the other player in the hand and made a bad call or bet when the cards open up, then to luckily have the river save me.
That's luck - guys that play and call every street for the sake of fishing for a straight, etc consistently are the idiots
They don't last long though.

But fsck knows there are too many idiots on SilverSands (and cos I seriously think it's rigged) I don't play there anymore.
I may just play like shyte on SS, but there's just too many swings for me on that site - and too many ppl lucking out.

 

[killadoob]

I don't think you play like shyte it was just unlucky

When poker players do well they call it skill when they lose they say they were unlucky . You never hear a poker player explain a great hand he won as lucky but he will always curse his bad luck when explaining the hand he lost .

 

[Shake&Bake]

You know it - all poker players will instantly recall a badbeat.
The direction the wind was blowing, the drink they had in their hand, the amount of smoke the other player gulped when he realised he was drawing dead and the smirk on the kunts face when he rivered you

 

[Jewelbox]

I used to play slots online at Piggs Peak. Won a lot at the beginning, but the more I won, the greedier I got and the more I withdrew from my credit card, the more I got into the red. My advice......stay away!

 

[Natas]

The online kind of gambling I would ever recommend anyone do online, is Poker and trading on sports bet markets. You can bet on the sports markets but I would suggest that you rather trade on them on markets that stay open for in-play betting.. other than that, most of the online casino's are based in strange countries where you don't know what the laws are. In south africa, casino's are obliged to pay out a certain percentage of money they take in. I think its like 95% that it needs to pay out... when you gamble online, which I have done a bit, you can see that either the software is a pure distribution mechanism.. or you can see its geared to make you think you are momments away from winning, encouraging you to make a big bet and then you lose!

 

[killadoob]

I highly doubt online casino's need to pay out 95% of everything played but anyhow.