Opel Corsa Scrapyard?

[Gnome]

My damned Opel Corsa 1.6i Sport has a faulty MAP sensor wiring harness (it's a piece of plastic with 3 wires in it) and the GM garages wants R2k for a new one They think they can outclass BMW and Mercedes by asking outrages prices, anyway my question is, is there any place I can obtain this thing for cheaper?

Perferable as the title says I'm looking for a Opel scrapyard to get the thing from, just cut one from a written off car and splice it on my current wiring to get the damned car fixed.

This thing causes constant problems, it causes the car to run very lean and ping the whole damned time, then I stop the car tug on the harness here and there and bam the car runs fine until I drive over the next bump, rinse and repeat, I'm getting really bored of the exercise and would like to fix it!

Any help appreciated.

Btw. I'm in the Pretoria area so close to here is preferable.

 

[Pyro]

Are the actual plugs damaged, or just the wire? If it's only the 3 wires, you should be able to rewire it for a fraction of the cost.

 

[Adeptus Mechanicus]

My damned Opel Corsa 1.6i Sport has a faulty MAP sensor wiring harness (it's a piece of plastic with 3 wires in it) and the GM garages wants R2k for a new one They think they can outclass BMW and Mercedes by asking outrages prices,.

Oh hell yes.

A careless fool at the carwash broke my petrol flap off. I had to pay R400 for a replacement (which is in actual fact plastic and not metal) and then had to pay a further R150 at a panel beater to have it painted

 

[Tux]

Not sure if you're helped yet, but you can check out Freddies in Vom Hagen street next to the market's entrance or in Van der Hoff in PTA Gardens there's Opel Zone.

Freddies would be cheaper but Opel Zone more into Corsas

 

[!!DV!!]

Freddies would be cheaper but Opel Zone more into Corsas

+1

They were able to help my with a 2 petrol pumps for my Ex-corsa

 

[Gnome]

Are the actual plugs damaged, or just the wire? If it's only the 3 wires, you should be able to rewire it for a fraction of the cost.

FFS I don't know

I've maneuvered that thing is so many ways, I've taken the entire plug apart and spread out the crimps to try and get them to make better contact but they are so cheaply made (looks like cheap version of the crimp used on computer PSU's) it keeps fscking up every so often, I'm fed up so I just want to get a new plug and splice the new one on, end of trouble!

Else if it still has problems it can only be my ECU But seeing as the problem goes away the second I push the plug in hard I doubt it's that, also when I check the plug with a multimeter the voltages are out of spec (way out), also, I have no mechanical problems compression is perfect, valves are fine, and crank and crank pulley marks line up to correct marks, crank angle sensor is good too but the timing is out, which means it can only be the Air Temp sensor or MAP sensor, pretty confident it's the MAP sensor seeing as the problem I described.

EDIT: Also replaced all sensors with a working car's (just for testing) no difference, so the sensors (esp. MAP sensor) is still good.

Anyway thanks for the advice! I'll check these out.

 

[flarkit]

There's also a place called ASAP in Pretoria Gardens (I think), not far from Vom Hagen Street. They specialise in stripping Opels.

 

[Gnome]

Got it fixed, YAY!

Thanks for all the advice once again, went to Opel Spares in Pretoria Gardens (Opel Zone?), anyway they had written of corsa left and right and the guy was able to salvage a MAP sensor harness plug from one where the rest of the ignition wiring was screwed. Didn't ask me anything for it

Now the cars all happy again, idles perfect, doesn't ping anymore, hopefully I don't have to rebuild the engine too soon because of all the sh*t the engine had to go through

 

[Pyro]

Glad to hear

 

[hermankriel]

Hallo

i came across this website while looking for opel spares...
AND I HAVE BEEN TO ALL LOCAL SCRAPYARDS

I NEED : a 1997 corsa driver seat...pattern is grey with palm trees and bikes on

E-mail me at [email protected]

 

[Keeper]

I NEED : a 1997 corsa driver seat...pattern is grey with palm trees and bikes on

LOL - palm trees & bikes....

 

[Sellob]

My damned Opel Corsa 1.6i Sport has a faulty MAP sensor wiring harness (it's a piece of plastic with 3 wires in it) and the GM garages wants R2k for a new one They think they can outclass BMW and Mercedes by asking outrages prices, anyway my question is, is there any place I can obtain this thing for cheaper?

Perferable as the title says I'm looking for a Opel scrapyard to get the thing from, just cut one from a written off car and splice it on my current wiring to get the damned car fixed.

This thing causes constant problems, it causes the car to run very lean and ping the whole damned time, then I stop the car tug on the harness here and there and bam the car runs fine until I drive over the next bump, rinse and repeat, I'm getting really bored of the exercise and would like to fix it!

Any help appreciated.

Btw. I'm in the Pretoria area so close to here is preferable.

I have experience the same problem with my opel corsa 130I

 

[Gnome]

If it is indeed the MAP sensor harness then REPLACE the injector harness, don't even try anything else, I tried a whole bunch of ***** and it didn't work, in the end replacing the injector harness fixed it. Costs around R400 from A.S.A.P Opel Spares. Even replacing only the MAP sensor plug only worked for a while, those harnesses are SUPER sensitive. Just replace it and DON'T spray anything into the plugs or constantly unplug them, just put it in, leave as is. Problem solved.

Remember other things can also cause the car to ping so best be sure it's the same issue I described where the motor pings because the MAP sensor plug problem.

 

[Fazda]

This highlights the fact that Opels must have the fussiest electrics I have ever come across...I had the misfortune of rallying a GSi in 91, and if you even breathed over the motor in the wrong direction, it decided that it had water in the system and went all fall down!

 

[Gnome]

This highlights the fact that Opels must have the fussiest electrics I have ever come across...I had the misfortune of rallying a GSi in 91, and if you even breathed over the motor in the wrong direction, it decided that it had water in the system and went all fall down!

Hmm, there was obviously something wrong with the wiring because my Opel never had trouble until I fiddled with the electronics. Before that I'd driven through a dam of water that nearly entered the air intake with water streaming into the doors and the car didn't even stall while moving through the water although the electronics dimmed significantly and the car spluttered badly, when I was out of the water the car went on happily.

Afterward (few days later) I though I should probably open up the plugs just in case something was wrong, that was the problem. I messed around with it.

Best to just leave it well enough alone.

You'll experience similar problems with other cars, my Opel uses a Bosch Motronic system, it's not locally or even Opel made it's made by Bosch. Take any other car using that same system and mess with it and you'll have the exact same problems.

Most modern cars are either using some version of the Bosch Motronic or a derivative thereof, BMW, GM, VW, etc. etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motronic

Fact is the system is sensitive to resistance and impedance, if you go messing with it like splicing wires and such things it's going to cause sensor misreading which in turn causes problems like knocking because the air-fuel mixture is misread.

The plugs are water-proof by design which is why they shouldn't be tampered with, spraying things into them causes miss readings, in my opinion probably because the spray causes measurable changes in resistance, silicone after all isn't a conductor, the primary component for moisture repellent sprays.

 

[Fazda]

Hmm, there was obviously something wrong with the wiring because my Opel never had trouble until I fiddled with the electronics. Before that I'd driven through a dam of water that nearly entered the air intake with water streaming into the doors and the car didn't even stall while moving through the water although the electronics dimmed significantly and the car spluttered badly, when I was out of the water the car went on happily.

Afterward (few days later) I though I should probably open up the plugs just in case something was wrong, that was the problem. I messed around with it.

Best to just leave it well enough alone.

You'll experience similar problems with other cars, my Opel uses a Bosch Motronic system, it's not locally or even Opel made it's made by Bosch. Take any other car using that same system and mess with it and you'll have the exact same problems.

Most modern cars are either using some version of the Bosch Motronic or a derivative thereof, BMW, GM, VW, etc. etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motronic

Fact is the system is sensitive to resistance and impedance, if you go messing with it like splicing wires and such things it's going to cause sensor misreading which in turn causes problems like knocking because the air-fuel mixture is misread.

The plugs are water-proof by design which is why they shouldn't be tampered with, spraying things into them causes miss readings, in my opinion probably because the spray causes measurable changes in resistance, silicone after all isn't a conductor, the primary component for moisture repellent sprays.

I rallied golf GTi's for years without a problem. That particular Opel was a bloody disaster however. It got so that we couldn't clean the engine between events, which actually puts you on the edge as far as passing scrutineering. Eventually I cleaned very carefully around the edges, after wrapping anything that was vaguely electronic in plastic.

 

[Gnome]

I rallied golf GTi's for years without a problem. That particular Opel was a bloody disaster however. It got so that we couldn't clean the engine between events, which actually puts you on the edge as far as passing scrutineering. Eventually I cleaned very carefully around the edges, after wrapping anything that was vaguely electronic in plastic.

I have never, not once, seen any person report those problems on the Opel Owners Forum and just about every conceivable problem relating to Opel engines have been posted there, it's virtually unheard of on a Opel that moisture causes issues on the electronic fuel injection, in fact I ran a search just now and 0 results for moisture/water related to anything regarding electronic fuel injection.

Fiddling is different from moisture, fiddling implies disconnecting the plugs, spraying ***** in them or otherwise messing about with them, moisture on the other hand implies, you take a hose and spray it with water. The later I've done plenty with no ill effect (and so have many others on the Opel Owners Forum), the former I've done and that caused this thread.

On the *****! Golf I've heard they don't stand up too well to moisture perhaps you are confusing the two?

 

[wizdumb]

a bit off topice, but my gf was looking for a front light unit, and gm charged 1,6k for one, and freddies for the same part, less than 300...

...going there this w'end

ps: they even said they install it as well. another place that charged 400 for unit, wanted to charge 150 for installation

 

[Gnome]

a bit off topice, but my gf was looking for a front light unit, and gm charged 1,6k for one, and freddies for the same part, less than 300...

...going there this w'end

ps: they even said they install it as well. another place that charged 400 for unit, wanted to charge 150 for installation

Yeah GM only rip people off, when I'm looking for spares my order of phoning is:

1) GM so I can LOL at what they ask
2) Goldwagen, they stock New Opel Spares at very low prices
3) Opel A.S.A.P
4) Other places

Just as an example of the outrages prices charged by GM, I wanted a new Idle Control Valve for a Opel I was fixing, GM R1200, Goldwagen R500. Both are IDENTICAL parts, part from Goldwagen came in a sealed package with a protection seal that was unopened so suffice to say it was new.

Another one was phone GM, the price on a 45Amp alternator for a non-air condition Corsa, R2400, Opel A.S.A.P R400 for a 70Amp unit from the A/C model which they'll gladly retrofit so it can fit on the non-A/C model.

 

[Fazda]

I have never, not once, seen any person report those problems on the Opel Owners Forum and just about every conceivable problem relating to Opel engines have been posted there, it's virtually unheard of on a Opel that moisture causes issues on the electronic fuel injection, in fact I ran a search just now and 0 results for moisture/water related to anything regarding electronic fuel injection.

Fiddling is different from moisture, fiddling implies disconnecting the plugs, spraying ***** in them or otherwise messing about with them, moisture on the other hand implies, you take a hose and spray it with water. The later I've done plenty with no ill effect (and so have many others on the Opel Owners Forum), the former I've done and that caused this thread.

On the *****! Golf I've heard they don't stand up too well to moisture perhaps you are confusing the two?

I am not trying to irritate Opel owners, I am simply stating a fact. Whether that FACT has been reported on the Opel owners forum or not does not concern me at all.

In case you didn't get my message the first time, the Opel I drove in rallies was a bloody disaster when it came near to ANY water, whereas the 6 GTi's that I rallied could be blasted with a WAP after a rally, then blown dry with a high pressure hose, and driven. The Opel COULD NOT...end of story. If it upsets touchy Opel owners, I apologise.

I am not trying to get into a VW v/s Opel argument, I just happened to have a very bad experience with an Opel and ANYTHING that contained H2O!