There we go. How about answering one question that I've put to you twice now? A week ago, the average was 7.5Gb, my downloads were 10Gb on the 16th, two days ago. Please explain why I was abitrarily shaped according to the old average.
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There we go. How about answering one question that I've put to you twice now? A week ago, the average was 7.5Gb, my downloads were 10Gb on the 16th, two days ago. Please explain why I was abitrarily shaped according to the old average.
Omg, did you not notice that the two are separated by a full stop?
Kay, let's play English for dummies.
1) There is a full stop.
Noun - A punctuation mark (.) placed at the end of a declarative sentence to indicate a full stop or after abbreviations
It is indicating that he is finished with that sentence and is moving on to his next point.
2) Note the word currently
Adverb - At this time or period; now
Now let's apply all the fields together and put it in big boy English.
He started by telling you that he informed d7e7r7 that he was in the top 20% a week ago. He then told you what his calculations back then were. After "a week ago" and the full stop, he now addresses your problem. He, then, states that average as of the time he posted was 15.4gb. Not a week ago, not a month ago, not next year, AS OF NOW.
You've asked twice, and he's answered twice. Please disconnect yourself from the internet and go back to grade 1 if this continues to evade you...
Kay, let's play English for dummies.
1) There is a full stop.
Noun - A punctuation mark (.) placed at the end of a declarative sentence to indicate a full stop or after abbreviations
It is indicating that he is finished with that sentence and is moving on to his next point.
2) Note the word currently
Adverb - At this time or period; now
Now let's apply all the fields together and put it in big boy English.
He started by telling you that he informed d7e7r7 that he was in the top 20% a week ago. He then told you what his calculations back then were. After "a week ago" and the full stop, he now addresses your problem. He, then, states that average as of the time he posted was 15.4gb. Not a week ago, not a month ago, not next year, AS OF NOW.
You've asked twice, and he's answered twice. Please disconnect yourself from the internet and go back to grade 1 if this continues to evade you...
So much for your big boy English. He was responding to Lounger, who asked about me, not d7e7r7.
To the two of you, I was asking MrBeep, not either of you.
ADSL Lite packages unclear
I had the same problem with ISP's this month. But one thing to keep in mind is that most of them simply resell ADSL packages. I'm with Afrihost and they moved all their uncapped users to IS Lite accounts. That's where these crappy packages originate from. They are to be blamed. The resellers don't control when uncapped users must be capped.
IS is basically offering 5Gb per 10 day window, so that's 15Gb per month. Going outside this, they claim that they will half your line speed, but then comes that 20% window which is so easy to hit. To give you an idea how bad it is in there, I have a 384kbps account capable of basically 40KB/s. When you hit that 20% threshold, all traffic gets throttled down to 4.5KB/s, which is more similar to a 56kbps dial-up modem.
The problem with this model is that nobody wants to hit the 20% threshold, so you either leave or use less. Eventually even downloading 1Gb a month could get you in the 20% of those who remain, and so forth. But there was that article out recently talking about phasing out uncapped :wtf:
What these ISP's are guilty of is that they didn't fully disclose everything the Lite package entails, and quite frankly even that spills over to fault of IS
mad. I spent a lot of time on this with Afrihost. After many emails they finally sent me everything they have about the IS lite package, which was the actual material sent to them from IS. I read it and it didn't say how much you would be throttled hitting the 20%. And you cannot check whether your account falls into that bracket either. But at least I can contribute by stating the extent to which it is throttled.
So, OpenWeb offers this Lite package and Standard uncapped, which is similarly priced. The difference is Lite is unshaped on all ports, except that you are 'capped' to 5Gb per 10 days, and must fall within the 80% of users not downloading 'too much'
. For Standard uncapped, you will be shaped on everything involving downloading (don't know the rate on this. Anyone?), but no 20% Fair-use policy is applicable, so the speed you get, you will always get (bar any network issues).
I hope ISP's / IS will fully disclose these packages soon, especially when migrating users without fully informing them (as in my case with Afrihost, which I now cancelled).
I had the same problem with ISP's this month. But one thing to keep in mind is that most of them simply resell ADSL packages. I'm with Afrihost and they moved all their uncapped users to IS Lite accounts. That's where these crappy packages originate from. They are to be blamed. The resellers don't control when uncapped users must be capped.
IS is basically offering 5Gb per 10 day window, so that's 15Gb per month. Going outside this, they claim that they will half your line speed, but then comes that 20% window which is so easy to hit. To give you an idea how bad it is in there, I have a 384kbps account capable of basically 40KB/s. When you hit that 20% threshold, all traffic gets throttled down to 4.5KB/s, which is more similar to a 56kbps dial-up modem.
The problem with this model is that nobody wants to hit the 20% threshold, so you either leave or use less. Eventually even downloading 1Gb a month could get you in the 20% of those who remain, and so forth. But there was that article out recently talking about phasing out uncapped :wtf:
What these ISP's are guilty of is that they didn't fully disclose everything the Lite package entails, and quite frankly even that spills over to fault of IS
mad. I spent a lot of time on this with Afrihost. After many emails they finally sent me everything they have about the IS lite package, which was the actual material sent to them from IS. I read it and it didn't say how much you would be throttled hitting the 20%. And you cannot check whether your account falls into that bracket either. But at least I can contribute by stating the extent to which it is throttled.So, OpenWeb offers this Lite package and Standard uncapped, which is similarly priced. The difference is Lite is unshaped on all ports, except that you are 'capped' to 5Gb per 10 days, and must fall within the 80% of users not downloading 'too much'
. For Standard uncapped, you will be shaped on everything involving downloading (don't know the rate on this. Anyone?), but no 20% Fair-use policy is applicable, so the speed you get, you will always get (bar any network issues).I hope ISP's / IS will fully disclose these packages soon, especially when migrating users without fully informing them (as in my case with Afrihost, which I now cancelled).
Lounger isn't even on Openweb :|
d7e7r7 was the guy who had downloaded more than you while Lounger was merely trying to be annoying, as usual.
You asked MrBeep and when he replied you missed the point. The two of us are now explaining how you're going in a circle. But please continue with your ignorance.
d7e7r7 was the guy who had downloaded more than you while Lounger was merely trying to be annoying, as usual.
You asked MrBeep and when he replied you missed the point. The two of us are now explaining how you're going in a circle. But please continue with your ignorance.
You aren't on OpenWeb either and he hasn't replied. Now go away.
As a company selling IS bandwidth you should be able to explain the policies. I used IS and know intimately what happens. You reach an invisible point at which you are heavily shaped. It does let up slightly, but then just goes back to bad again until you stop using it. If someone had said you're gonna get badly shaped before 9Gigs, I don't think you would have a customer left.
Sure, the speeds are fine for everything ------ until you reach that invisible barrier and get capped on uncapped or shaped on unshaped.
How about explaining the star system so they all know what is happening in the background?
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I am also on the lite have used only 10 gigs and being shaped right now
going to cancel end of the month if it continues like this
going to cancel end of the month if it continues like this
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Holy funking tits. I know I'm not. You stated Lounger was the one in question meaning you thought he was with Openweb, but you know what... nvm. Go join the government. You'll fit right in... :|
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No, slow child. Lounger asked ABOUT ME, which doesn't mean that Lounger has to be on OpenWeb. Comprehension fail.
yawn. more dribble.
lounger, go and be negative somewhere else. go and start your own isp dude. you seem to know it all
lounger, go and be negative somewhere else. go and start your own isp dude. you seem to know it all