opera mini 6.5

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hello. just downloaded opera mini 6.5 on my 8520 yesterday. does it use BIS? i googled it but can only find no recent results. some people said below 5.2 used normal data but the the versions after that used BIS. just need confirmation. will be monitoring my bundle as well just to check...:)
 
akescpt said:
hello. just downloaded opera mini 6.5 on my 8520 yesterday. does it use BIS? i googled it but can only find no recent results. some people said below 5.2 used normal data but the the versions after that used BIS. just need confirmation. will be monitoring my bundle as well just to check...:)
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I've been using it for over two weeks now and I haven't incurred any data charges. From what I have come to understand, developers have to pay RIM something like $2,000 a year to have their apps use BIS and, from my further understanding, Opera developers have pay such amount to RIM. Contractually, it would mean that , from RIM's perspective (and by extension, other service providers of RIM product BIS) Opera is covered under BIS.

The current Vodacom/ MTN/ Cell C (and probably 8.ta) forward message (you know that one that they spit out as a general answer to everything but answers nothing) names Opera as one of the apps that incurr data charges but that list was made over two years ago when the Opera Mini of that time DID incurr data charges. Several versions later, Opera started using BIS but, I guess, our almighty service providers haven't updated that list of things that "don't" use BIS.

By all means (and I recommend it), monitor your data and costs and (if you're on contract) activate a "data inhibitor", but so far I have not incurred additional data charges on Opera Mini 6.5.
 
DarkBlood said:
I've been using it for over two weeks now and I haven't incurred any data charges. From what I have come to understand, developers have to pay RIM something like $2,000 a year to have their apps use BIS and, from my further understanding, Opera developers have pay such amount to RIM. Contractually, it would mean that , from RIM's perspective (and by extension, other service providers of RIM product BIS) Opera is covered under BIS.

The current Vodacom/ MTN/ Cell C (and probably 8.ta) forward message (you know that one that they spit out as a general answer to everything but answers nothing) names Opera as one of the apps that incurr data charges but that list was made over two years ago when the Opera Mini of that time DID incurr data charges. Several versions later, Opera started using BIS but, I guess, our almighty service providers haven't updated that list of things that "don't" use BIS.

By all means (and I recommend it), monitor your data and costs and (if you're on contract) activate a "data inhibitor", but so far I have not incurred additional data charges on Opera Mini 6.5.
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schweet. i dont use the operators pages for anything. just look aorund for an answer or pop downstairs to the mtn shop. much easier. thats good news but will still keep an eagle eye. opera beats the pants of the default browser..:)
 
akescpt said:
opera beats the pants of the default browser..:)
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It does, depending on the pages you're browsing on. Opera Mini doesn't support dynamic content pages (things with animation, gifs and all sorts of other things) - it kind of converts everthing into a static content page at a particular point in processing. If you're just browsing sites where you're reading things and and are looking at pictures (no movement in things required or count down on clocks), then Opera Mini is champion.

The developers don't see to have any intention to make an Opera Mobile for BlackBerry. Opera Mobile supports dynamic content. I wonder if they'll change their minds - I hope they will but I am thinking that it is unlikely.

In summary: I use Opera Mini to load sites with static content (goes EXTREMELY fast by comparison) and use the BB Browser when I want to access dynamic content pages.
 
akescpt said:
A data what? O_o
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Lol....oooookay, let's start from here: Who is your service provider?

If it's Vodacom, call them and ask them to put on a "data inhibitor" on your package. It's an optional thing that will stop you from accessing any content on your BlackBerry that is not covered by BIS - this includes applications as well. I've had it on for almost a year and have been free of billing surprises. There have been apps that, when I try use it, it tells me there is no "network coverage" or "data coverage" or whatever. That's because the app tries to go throught the BIS server, the server says "no", the app then tries to go through the "normal" network (in my case Vodacom) and the data inhibitor acts like a bouncer at the door telling it "**** off!!!"

Summary version: Anything that's not BIS is blocked.

Last point: Where did you download your Opera Mini 6.5 from? There was an earlier version, when it first came out, that people incurred data costs on. It was a bug in the program that the developers admitted to and then fixed. Did you download from the Opera web site?
 
Can anyone advise me please? I am with Cell C and have had my blackberry 9780 since the beginning of November last year. Stupidly have not been checking my bill reguarly and on querying costs on Monday, found out I am being charge R5.72 per day ( R172 per month) for opera.

I cannot recall having downloaded this application but may well have done in the flurry of first time balcberry excitement. But now I do not want it. I cannot uninstall it however as I cannot find opera anywhere on my phone not the icon, not the name, ... nowhere.

As I cannot recall installing it, I also have no idea where this was done from and so do not know who to contact to request that they cancel this daily subscription of R5.72

So I have an application that I cannot locate on my phone , downloaded from where I do not know and I am being charged for it.

Please can someone give me some advice as to what to do to stop these charges.
 
Padded Mouse said:
Can anyone advise me please? I am with Cell C and have had my blackberry 9780 since the beginning of November last year. Stupidly have not been checking my bill reguarly and on querying costs on Monday, found out I am being charge R5.72 per day ( R172 per month) for opera.

I cannot recall having downloaded this application but may well have done in the flurry of first time balcberry excitement. But now I do not want it. I cannot uninstall it however as I cannot find opera anywhere on my phone not the icon, not the name, ... nowhere.

As I cannot recall installing it, I also have no idea where this was done from and so do not know who to contact to request that they cancel this daily subscription of R5.72

So I have an application that I cannot locate on my phone , downloaded from where I do not know and I am being charged for it.

Please can someone give me some advice as to what to do to stop these charges.
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See answer in your thread
 
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