daveza
Honorary Master
Obama - 1
Bush - 0
Good enough for me - and probably for the US public as well.
Bush - 0
Good enough for me - and probably for the US public as well.
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Yep, but what about those who say he died a long time ago .....
Good point.Where was Islamic extremism/terrorism/fundamentalsm before the mujahideen war against Russia.
The US have created this monster.
Pacepa: September 11, 2001 was directly rooted in a joint Soviet/Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) operation conceived in the aftermath of the 1967 Six-Day Arab-Israeli War. The object of this joint operation was to repair Moscow's prestige by turning the Islamic world against Israel and by creating a rabid and violent hatred for its main supporter, the United States. The strategy was to portray the US, this land of freedom, as a Nazi-style "imperial-Zionist country" financed by Jewish money and run by a rapacious "Council of the Elders of Zion" (the Kremlin's epithet for the US Congress), the aim of which was allegedly to transform the rest of the world into a Jewish fiefdom. In other words, the heart of the joint plan was to convert the historical Arab and Islamic hatred of the Jews into a new hatred of the United States. We threw many millions of dollars at this gigantic task, which involved whole armies of intelligence officers.
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=13975
1933 statement of Dimitri Manuilski, of the Lenin School of Political Warfare:
"War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our time will come in thirty to forty years. To win, we shall need the element of surprise. The bourgeoisie will have to be put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There will be electrifying overtures and unheard of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate in their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends. As soon as their guard is down, we shall smash them with our clenched fist."
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/200087-House-of-cards...?p=3382952&viewfull=1#post3382952
After the “fall” of communism, communists consolidated their control of Angola when we declared ourselves the “victors” and abandoned Jonas Savimbi’s anticommunist guerillas in the field, only to see them utterly wiped out shortly thereafter. The same communist Angolan government remains in power today. Rashid Dostum, a key leader of Afghanistan’s “Northern Alliance” is, and always has been, Russia’s man in Afghanistan. He was left there in charge of the Soviet-backed Afghan Army after the Soviets went home and continued to wreak havoc until the Taliban chased him out. In yet another demonstration of our interminable brilliance, American policy makers allowed him to become Deputy Defense Minister in the new Karzai government, guaranteeing a behind-the-scenes Soviet Communist role in Afghanistan’s future.
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With Islamic Jihad, the Soviet Union found the ideal vehicle to continue its war with the West, while continuing to uphold the myth of their demise. A large population of ignorant, unemployed, discouraged, disenfranchised, naïve Muslim youths has provided fertile ground for recruitment into what can only be described as the consummate false flag operation. Jihadists believe they are fighting to create a worldwide Muslim Caliphate, because they are recruited by Hezbollah, Hamas, al Qaeda and other recognized Muslim terror groups. But in fact they are doing the dirty work of the Soviets, just as countless surrogates have in the past.
http://truthandcons.blogspot.com/2006/11/time-to-face-facts.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus Though in all honesty, I dont think America should have helped out Afgans when Russia invaded.Good point.Where was Islamic extremism/terrorism/fundamentalsm before the mujahideen war against Russia.
Its easier to blame others instead of accepting responsibility. As long as you keep blaming everyone else nothing is ganna change in that area of the world.The US have created this monster.
that's boo-yah ...
Where?...Right here...
...and here...
Read it all...![]()
Bwahahah its getting so old, you actually hate white people dont you?
Heaven forbid anyone says anything remotely negative about non-whites.![]()
One who makes false claims of racism in order to avoid answering legitimate arguments. Especially in political discussions. This word is derived from "Race" in the same manner as Truther and Birther come from "Truth" and "Birth".
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Fox News does it again!
A huge window shaking bang here in Abbottabad Cantt. I hope its not the start of something nasty :-S
14 hours ago
Sohaib Athar
@ReallyVirtual Abbottabad Lahore Pakistan
An IT consultant taking a break from the rat-race by hiding in the mountains with his laptops.
174 comments and nobody's mentioned this, but what happened to the presumption of innocence?
I mean, a guy arrested at the scene of a mass shooting, covered in blood and holding an assault rifle, screaming about how the aliens in his head told him to murder all of mankind... still gets a trial. Timothy McVeigh (the second biggest terrorist to attack US soil) got a trial. People who systematically abduct and rape hundreds of little girls and hide their bodies in barrels get a trial.
If absolutely nothing else, now we'll never truly know if he really did it. Who the power behind him was. Who was sponsoring him, who was protecting him (aside from the obvious: Pakistan), who were his allies. Think of all he could know.
Action movies lie to you. Dead guys give zero intel and create martyrs. Killing him was, by a huge long away, out and out the worst way to handle it. Bring him in alive. See what he knows. Then put him in prison for the rest of his days.
This was a poor choice.
This was a poor choice.
@ fazda anyone who believes that is a pic of osama is retarded, compare a real confirmed pic of osama to this pic of his supposed corpse, look at the nose, particularly the bridge.... its not the same person
real osama
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01238/osama_binladen_1238702c.jpg
fake
http://web23.twitpic.com/img/289270025-d4ed957cc41cfecdbe96d346b34e13da.4dbe8eb0-full.jpg
Perhaps you fail to comprehend the damage taking a bullet in the head does to one's facial features :erm:
Still looks like him to me
they say they buries his body at sea... convenient, pic posted in the thread earlier is an obvious fake..... really sad that some are so easily fooled![]()