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The patch hit, and it hit hard

Test my hunter on the dummies - -800 dps unbuffed
On patch i went down from around 5.4k dps to 3.7k dps, but after some tweaking in naxx 25 i would say with full raid buffs my dps loss is on average 400 - 600.
 
thiartc said:
The patch hit, and it hit hard

Test my hunter on the dummies - -800 dps unbuffed
On patch i went down from around 5.4k dps to 3.7k dps, but after some tweaking in naxx 25 i would say with full raid buffs my dps loss is on average 400 - 600.
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What were the other classes doing in terms of dps and how are they now?
 
Optioncarduser said:
What were the other classes doing in terms of dps and how are they now?
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Lets talk patchwerk 1st

DK topped it with 5k dps, then 2 warriors followed by mages, al between 4.5 - 4.8k

On average for the night, our DK and mages made the top spots almost everytime.
 
Dk tanking got huge nerf look at Bone armour.
Damn i am being forced to go frost to tank.
And Blood spec got alot of buffs.
 
Insufficient testing for me yet. But my MM build have lost no DPS on the training dummies still doing 2.5k DPS over a 1M damage test. (350pet and 2150 self)
My BM spec have taken a huge hit though! I used to get about 2.5k DPS on the dummies with this build (pet 600 and self 1900). Now it is down to 2.2k DPS (pet 520 and self 1700).

Raids were lagging way to much for real testing last night, but our Survival hunter out dps'ed myslef as MM and our BM hunter quite easily...
DPS numbers under the lag conditions are meaningless.

What I can say though is that I am quite happy that some Items were fixed!

[Cryptfiend's Bite] now gives 200 RAP as well and not 20 RAP like before

[Leggings of Colossal Strides] still gives 400 RAP instead of 200 RAP, hope this stays unfixed longer ;)
 
Optioncarduser said:
What were the other classes doing in terms of dps and how are they now?
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Shadow priests were off the charts! almost 2k dps more than anyone else. Expecting a hot fix for them :p

Rogue AOE have been boosted

Rest of the classes are still the same, just hunters moved down the list.
 
Tonight I am raiding Sarth 3D... so then I will see just how bad it is. From initial tests it does look horrendous, Will most likely respec and modify my BM build to the new recommended one. If it still sux, Yarrrr survival here I come.

Well we had our time in the sun, it was expected that we would be trimmed down, now its all about adapt and learn to live with it. :mad:
 
thiartc said:
Lets talk patchwerk 1st

DK topped it with 5k dps, then 2 warriors followed by mages, al between 4.5 - 4.8k

On average for the night, our DK and mages made the top spots almost everytime.
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Yea we had about the same at Patch, DK slightly lower at 4.8k but we had a shadow priest at 5.6k! Warrior 3rd with also 4.8k
 
My voidwalker is now a real tank with just over 20k health :) and when using demonic power his health goes up to 24k :)

I did the quest The Rider of Frost solo :)
 
Well I must say, I don't feel quite as violated as I thought I would.

Yes, BM definitely got nailed hard, but with some adjustments to your spec, a new pet and a few other things you can still do well; maybe not top the meters on every fight like before but still well.
I don't think last night's meters will a good judge of my performance since I was still tinkering with a lot of stuff as the raid went on but I think in a few days when my **** is in order I should still be a good contender.

One thing I recommend is using the hunter spreadsheet on EJ to do some calculations. It'll help you a lot to figure out where to spend some of those tougher talent points if you're not sure how it will affect you.
 
Mind posting the New BM spec mentioned? I am sure mine is the same, but just to make sure. ;)
Still using a cat for BM, what pet would you recommend?
My gear is pretty much focused on BM though in MM gear I have about 450 haste now.
 
Boomrooker said:
Dk tanking got huge nerf look at Bone armour.
Damn i am being forced to go frost to tank.
And Blood spec got alot of buffs.
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Actually Unholy didn't take that big a nerf. The Bone Armour Glyph got changed to 5 charges so it last longer.
 
Pornolio said:
Thats not true... rogues make excellent raid mules. :D

Hey I better not make too much fun, hunter's are close on your heals hehe.
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Tricks of the trade = win misdirect,unless u fail to vanish/evade tank ^.^

The nerf was needed though. Having Blue-geared hunters scaling insanely compared to other dps classes was problematic. And as their gear improved it didn't start to balance out either. I know the nerfbat sucks when you're used to certain levels of performance ( hello Retridin and Armswar ) but hey,competition if done fairly makes it more fun ;)
 
Yea... I was expecting this nerf for ages now. I saw it coming, but yes its always hard to get use to being nerfed once you got use to the OP dps we had in the past.

I am 99% sure I am going survival ... the survival boys are shining in raid dps, I just have to adapt my playing style and get use to using my traps again on boss fights. Tonight I will stay BM for Sarth then the weekend I am jumping boat to survival.
 
Part from elemental shamans, good hunters can still be on top of DPS charts with Survival spec. It takes some getting used to, but even without the right survival gear I am loving it sofar.
 
I like the new patch, my fairie fire can now tag the monsters, had endless problems with other players just barging in on my tags...
 
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