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Looking through ath0's previous posts I often get the feeling that he is arguing with himself, and losing.

Then please prove to me that the SA media is not biased against whites?
You cant.
STFU.
 
I never brushed off any statements

Hm. True, actually. I originally replied to BobbyMac's post and somehow ended up arguing with you along the line.

Point remains the same. Speaking like the negotiation process was unneccessary detracts from the co-operation that saw this country issue forth anew. Yet somehow I find myself hearing the same thing more often now.
 
I am not making it about that. The point here is that we agree that the media never cover stories about black people being racist. But I disagree with ath0 on the media being biased.

How could the media NOT BE BAISED when "the media never cover stories about black people being racist".

Are you saying that whites cannot be subject to media bias, just like they cannot be victims of racism?
 
Then please prove to me that the SA media is not biased against whites?
You cant.
STFU.

Are you thick. I have proved this to you twice. I told you that your statement of the media covering up "crimes of racism against whites" may hold but the statement above is pure rubbish. biased against whites, please. You are in CT, you should know then that the Argus should be called the "DA Paper".
 
Are you thick. I have proved this to you twice. I told you that your statement of the media covering up "crimes of racism against whites" may hold but the statement above is pure rubbish. biased against whites, please. You are in CT, you should know then that the Argus should be called the "DA Paper".


So then show me examples of your media exposing non-white racists? And calling them racists too?

No you cant.

I repeat, No journalist in SA will ever accuse a black person of being racist, but they would fall over their feet to attack a white person as "racist".

The SA media is biased as hell, you have admitted this by saying they never report on crimes of racism committed by blacks.
 
ath0, can you find me a recent news stories about a white person being called racist in a scenario where it's not a blatant wave of the race card?
 
Are you thick. I have proved this to you twice. I told you that your statement of the media covering up "crimes of racism against whites" may hold but the statement above is pure rubbish. biased against whites, please. You are in CT, you should know then that the Argus should be called the "DA Paper".

One of example of a WHITE RACIST is De Wet Kritzinger, who shot unarmed people because they were black
De Wet Kritzinger was viciously attacked by the SA media for the racist he is.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKY/is_9_27/ai_108881870

Racist S.A. killer sentenced for life - World - Jan Gabriel De Wet Kritzinger - Brief Article

There is a white racist for you.


Now lets get to the hard part of finding your mythical black racists in the media.

They dont exist, because the media is covering for them. There you have it. They are forever innocent of racism, this is what the media had lead many people to believe.

Your media is still biased, you have failed to prove your media's neutrality in race related crimes.
 
I repeat, No journalist in SA will ever accuse a black person of being racist, but they would fall over their feet to attack a white person as "racist".

The media do not (except in rare cases) accuse anyone of anything. They report on factual events. The exception to this is obviously in opinion pieces, but really, I can't remember anyone accusing someone of racism in an opinion piece recently, either.

I really haven't noticed the media "falling over their feet to attack a white person as 'racist'". Where are all these pieces?

Perhaps you could substantiate your argument with examples?

EDIT: The article you've posted above is from the Catholic New Times, and was published in 2003. That doesn't seem recent or South African to me.
 
The article you've posted above is from the Catholic New Times, and was published in 2003. That doesn't seem recent or South African to me.

Also, by his own admissions Kritzinger was racist, and the media merely reported on those facts.

Any other more recent/relevant examples?
 
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See the above post.

Did it ever occur to you that it was the murder that made headlines.

Your argument is sad. You can only prove that the media is biased against white racism if you have proof that you or one of your sick friends went to the media with a story of a "black" person being racist to a "white" person and they refused to print your story. My guess is its not biased, it is just that that kind of story makes boring reading. I bet If a "black" man shot a white man for being "white" it would make the news. Perhaps you should start a blog or something and report your stories.

PS: Can we put your conspiracy theories to bed now. You really are boring us all.
 
EDIT: The article you've posted above is from the Catholic New Times, and was published in 2003. That doesn't seem recent or South African to me.

The article you've posted above is from the Catholic New Times, and was published in 2003. That doesn't seem recent or South African to me.

Also, by his own admissions Kritzinger was racist, and the media merely reported on those facts.

Any other more recent/relevant examples?

Ok so it being 4 years old makes it no Statistic ?

He's proving a point. He provided news of White racist in the news. Now it's your turn. Stop trying to evade the proof before you.
 
Did it ever occur to you that it was the murder that made headlines.

Your argument is sad. You can only prove that the media is biased against white racism if you have proof that you or one of your sick friends went to the media with a story of a "black" person being racist to a "white" person and they refused to print your story. My guess is its not biased, it is just that that kind of story makes boring reading. I bet If a "black" man shot a white man for being "white" it would make the news. Perhaps you should start a blog or something and report your stories.

PS: Can we put your conspiracy theories to bed now. You really are boring us all.

Pls just prove him wrong then
 
@Ath0 and Pitbull, perhaps you should provide stories of black racists that aren't being reported on.

If you don't know of any the chances are the media can't find them either...
 
The media do not (except in rare cases) accuse anyone of anything. They report on factual events. The exception to this is obviously in opinion pieces, but really, I can't remember anyone accusing someone of racism in an opinion piece recently, either.

What is a factual event according to you? Can a racially inspired murder on a white person be a "factual event" or is that fiction?

When a one person attacks another because of race, is it incorrect to say that the fact of the matter is, "this was a case of racism".

The media forms most of public opinion, they are very selective in their reporting it seems, as some of the other posters also noticed them not reporting on racist crimes committed by blacks.

I really haven't noticed the media "falling over their feet to attack a white person as 'racist'". Where are all these pieces?

Cases of white racism are extremely well documented in SA media, the same cannot be said of black racism, in fact i haven't noticed any of these cases.
 
Ok so it being 4 years old makes it no Statistic ?

He's proving a point. He provided news of White racist in the news. Now it's your turn. Stop trying to evade the proof before you.

So wait, his proof that the SA media is biased comes down to one article, in a non-SA publication*, four years ago? And now I must rebut his rock-solid proof.

You're right, I give up. :D


@ath0,
A factual event is an event that is supported by the facts. For example, a reporter would report on what a witness said, or what the people involved in an incident said, or the results of a trial. I have yet to see a news article where a journalist guessed at someone's motives. Opinion pieces, as I said, are different, but I still can't remember any that have accused anyone of racism (admitably, I don't read Quelane :p) recently.

If this bias is so well documented why can you not show me one article from this year that supports your claim?
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*Actually for all I know the Catholic Whatever-It-Is may be SA, I've just never heard of it.
 
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@Ath0 and Pitbull, perhaps you should provide stories of black racists that aren't being reported on.

If you don't know of any the chances are the media can't find them either...

That was exactly what I asked them. Unfortunately these 2 cannot read between the lines.

By the way Pitbull, you proved nothing. Like I said the story made the news because it was MURDER by a racist. I am sure that even you will agree that if he merely stood in the street and shouted racist comments at them it would not have made the news. Then again, knowing you, you will probably say it would make the front page :p
 
btw. war in South Africa int eh 70`s and 80`s would have been hell. if you are correct in your thinking that white ppl had no respect for your lives what would have stopped them from dropping a nuke on your settlements? SA had nukes. many of them.
and you complain about the treatment that your ppl received. look at what happened to the Australian Aborigines.
the Us almost killed off the local indain pop. a
ll that apartheid stood for was the separation of the races.
but do not misunderstand me. i think that apartheid was wrong.


Although the basis of national separation of the races in South Africa dates back to 1909, when the British withdrew the rights of non-whites to sit in parliament...
 
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