Overloaded with fibre

Would love an article about getting a neighbourhood connected to fibre but sadly this was not the article
 
It's actually quite annoying how *** this article is - Ben Kelly's great on the zatech.co.za weekly podcast, but the articles he writes for mybb are really dreck.
 
I also agree that the quality of articles has been absolute rubbish lately. It's putting me off this website.
 
not bothered to get excited about this cause it will not happen this year or next. more empty promises
 
Pilgrim said:
Or build a free wireless network that spans the entire city...

Who knows, maybe one day we can provide internet over such a network without the need of expensive licenses :)
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No, that will not work in the long run. There is only so much spectrum, and if you want to deliver video-on-demand (VOD) to most households, then you will have to go fixed-line (preferably fibre). Wireless simply can not scale well enough for high quality VOD.

Remember, the bandwidth available on any given wireless technology must be shared between all users in the footprint of that antenna. If you get to the point where your footprint is small enough that you have enough effective bandwidth per user, then you have so many wireless access points (with fibre backhaul) that you may as well connect up the last +-1km with fibre to the home.
 
fvdbergh said:
No, that will not work in the long run. There is only so much spectrum, and if you want to deliver video-on-demand (VOD) to most households, then you will have to go fixed-line (preferably fibre). Wireless simply can not scale well enough for high quality VOD.

Remember, the bandwidth available on any given wireless technology must be shared between all users in the footprint of that antenna. If you get to the point where your footprint is small enough that you have enough effective bandwidth per user, then you have so many wireless access points (with fibre backhaul) that you may as well connect up the last +-1km with fibre to the home.
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+1.
 
I'll be willing to pay for my own fibre infrastructure! Where can one get pricing details? Trenching, fibre, hardware... How about city regulations? Heard about R10K-R15K per kilometer cost, not sure how reliable the source was.
Should probably contact Dark Fibre Africa, FibreCo, Broadband Infraco MTN/Vodacom/Neotel or Telkom. After connecting to one of these carriers, one probably need an ISP to carry your data...
*starts researching on how to get my own fibre infrastructure going*
 
Bengalaas said:
I'll be willing to pay for my own fibre infrastructure! Where can one get pricing details? Trenching, fibre, hardware... How about city regulations? Heard about R10K-R15K per kilometer cost, not sure how reliable the source was.
Should probably contact Dark Fibre Africa, FibreCo, Broadband Infraco MTN/Vodacom/Neotel or Telkom. After connecting to one of these carriers, one probably need an ISP to carry your data...
*starts researching on how to get my own fibre infrastructure going*
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Remember to add your terminating equipment on both sides...
 
Included in the "hardware" :P So many things to consider...
Lets pool our resources together, buy some residential area in Graaff-Reinet, put in the fibre infrastructure before the housing and then we bring back the Karoo on the IT map :P
 
Bengalaas said:
I'll be willing to pay for my own fibre infrastructure! Where can one get pricing details? Trenching, fibre, hardware... How about city regulations? Heard about R10K-R15K per kilometer cost, not sure how reliable the source was.
Should probably contact Dark Fibre Africa, FibreCo, Broadband Infraco MTN/Vodacom/Neotel or Telkom. After connecting to one of these carriers, one probably need an ISP to carry your data...
*starts researching on how to get my own fibre infrastructure going*
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Well, actually it is pretty easy to do. NeoTel offers Fibre to the Premisses (FTTx)
It's not cheap as it is aimed to Businesses, but it is available and easy to get
 
JStrike said:
Well, actually it is pretty easy to do. NeoTel offers Fibre to the Premisses (FTTx)
It's not cheap as it is aimed to Businesses, but it is available and easy to get
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actually got prices for that once and it weren't cheap, for a household cost way to much (also metroweb very expensive)
 
Which products must I look for on the Neotel site? Scanned through it quickly, didn't get what I was looking for.
Looking at "blown fibre" vs conventional fibre, apparently it is more suited and easier to install/upgrades/maintain for access networks.
 
iCubed.Saajid said:
The above, the article summary, is what attracted me to reading this article. I thought it was going to discuss this, provide advice on how to approach these telcos and how to install your own fibre network.

Very misleading indeed. The article doesn't discuss this at all, and the author has copy/pasted this to the end of the article again.

The article summary should be changed. Sigh.
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It is not too complicated and there are companies entering the market who are deploying neutral fibre access networks. Obviously due the the required capital outlay and planning requirements things happen slowly.

Bengalaas said:
I'll be willing to pay for my own fibre infrastructure! Where can one get pricing details? Trenching, fibre, hardware... How about city regulations? Heard about R10K-R15K per kilometer cost, not sure how reliable the source was.
Should probably contact Dark Fibre Africa, FibreCo, Broadband Infraco MTN/Vodacom/Neotel or Telkom. After connecting to one of these carriers, one probably need an ISP to carry your data...
*starts researching on how to get my own fibre infrastructure going*
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Metro links generally are installed at R600 per meter but can cost more than that dependent on ground conditions.

Access networks can be cheaper depending on the trenching and ducting strategies used but not much less than R200 per meter. A large problem for independent organizations and contractors is generally wayleave approval and insurance.

Also keep in mind that the required networking hardware can cost a fortune up front.
 
icyrus said:
It is not too complicated and there are companies entering the market who are deploying neutral fibre access networks. Obviously due the the required capital outlay and planning requirements things happen slowly.



Metro links generally are installed at R600 per meter but can cost more than that dependent on ground conditions.

Access networks can be cheaper depending on the trenching and ducting strategies used but not much less than R200 per meter. A large problem for independent organizations and contractors is generally wayleave approval and insurance.

Also keep in mind that the required networking hardware can cost a fortune up front.
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There is also another big issue. My apartment has fibre installed (and the dozen apartments in the building). However, it is not activated, since not everyone wants to use the same provider.
 
JStrike said:
There is also another big issue. My apartment has fibre installed (and the dozen apartments in the building). However, it is not activated, since not everyone wants to use the same provider.
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That really shouldnt be an issue if the installation was done with any sense.
 
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