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http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2326254,00.html

Johannesburg - Just before the Zimbabwe Express pulls out of Johannesburg Central, Baron Hwata leans out of the window to deliver his verdict on a city he hoped would provide a safe haven from violence back home.

"Where we have been staying I was afraid and it (the violence) is spreading all over," says the 38-year-old who he left Zimbabwe two months ago to seek work in the building trade.

"My family were saying 'please come home it's not ok there'... We are supposed to be all as one, all Africans."

Hwata was one of hundreds of compatriots who piled onto the 18:10 train out of Johannesburg on Tuesday night, headed back for the border into Zimbabwe from where up to three million people have fled an economic catastrophe.
 
no, where did he get that idea, we are not all one, we are supporting and running different countries. same kind of 'black brother' mentality, could be so very racist(through exclusively referring to africans) in his comment, he could have said that austrailians, americans, asians or europeans were also one, in any way, those foreigners have better education and could be much more helpful than the neighboring african nations, why should we rather shun their quality 'brotherhood' ship for a lower quality one which is endlessly demanding.

although i think that some kind of hard analysis could be done to these zims, and those few with tertiary education could still be compromised to stay, but we absolutely can't afford to look after all of them.

ppl should stop thinking with their boobs.
 
before we get to excited

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=119668

He said it was better to be killed by South Africans than "starve to death and rot" back home. He said Zimbabweans were also living under the threat of violence from President Robert Mugabe's regime.
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Read this thread to see the flipside of why they really dont want to leave, the zimbabwians are caught between a k@k and a K@kker place :eek:
 
antowan said:
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2326254,00.html

Johannesburg - Just before the Zimbabwe Express pulls out of Johannesburg Central, Baron Hwata leans out of the window to deliver his verdict on a city he hoped would provide a safe haven from violence back home.

"Where we have been staying I was afraid and it (the violence) is spreading all over," says the 38-year-old who he left Zimbabwe two months ago to seek work in the building trade.

"My family were saying 'please come home it's not ok there'... We are supposed to be all as one, all Africans."

Hwata was one of hundreds of compatriots who piled onto the 18:10 train out of Johannesburg on Tuesday night, headed back for the border into Zimbabwe from where up to three million people have fled an economic catastrophe.
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I'm actually glad that they are leaving. Sure this country needs skills and skilled people from zimbabwe or any other country for that matter can help grow the economy. But there area a lot of poor, unskilled zimbabweans who come to this country to compete against fellow south africans for scarse resources that even the citizens of this country aren't getting.

They should Fu**en go!!!!
 
You know crime & violence is bad when the *Zimbabweans* start leaving the country.

Dunno what their problem is, though, this morning on Cape Talk Aden Thomas insisted that it's the perception of crime that's driving people out of the country.

He must have lead a charmed life so far...
 
Sad thing is that train will be mostly filled with the honest, hard working immigrants :(
 
Went to our local community hall tonight where there are about 200+ mostly Zimbabweans and some Mocambicans staying. The local DP councillor and the Methodist Church organised it for them. The Ekurhuleni ANC council let them use the community hall for shelter. Some of the other local churches have joined in and are making food there for them every night and providing clothing and blankets. Our Baptist Church is making supper for them on Saturday night. That is... if the buses and transport have not come for them yet by then. Most of them say they are waiting for Transport to go back to Zim. They have been there since last Friday. The way has been cleared for them to stay until next week. These people are mostly from Tokoza and Katlehong. Apparently there is another safety station in Tokoza itself.

It was very moving to see everyone there pitching in and arriving bringing food and blankets. Was cool to see. However you may feel about them being here in South Africa and having to leave now, these people are undergoing an Humanitarian crisis. Heard some stories of them being pulled out of their houses in the middle of the night and beaten, men woman and children. Their houses were ransacked and burned and then the space was allotted to someone else.

They were very well behaved and orderly, lining up meekly for their share of food prepared for them by the church people. Were well spoken and friendly. Some of them huddled around the TVs watching the main news bulletin, Keeping silent for the most part until the news reporter spoke of the 42 people murdered so far. I was scared to bring in the 3 black bags of clothes and shoes we had cleared out of our cupboard (amazing how much stuff we have in our cupboard we never use). But they never bothered me at all. I put the clothes with some others that will be distributed or re-allocated by the Church overseers. There were some obvious natural leaders there among the group. Young men who made sure that everybody had food before they took for themselves. Our three kids were playing with their kids there on the floor with the toys that someone had given them. I had to have words with the youngest one about letting them have the toys. To explain to him that he was going home to a houseful of toys and that those few throwaway macdonalds toys were all that those kids had.

The people were clean and well kempt. I did not see too many signs of obvious injury. They also seemed to be looking after the community hall pretty well and respecting the property. But the saddest thing of all was to see the hopelessness and hollowness and hurt in their eyes.
 
Garyvdh said:
Went to our local community hall tonight where there are about 200+ mostly Zimbabweans and some Mocambicans staying. The local DP councillor and the Methodist Church organised it for them. The Ekurhuleni ANC council let them use the community hall for shelter. Some of the other local churches have joined in and are making food there for them every night and providing clothing and blankets. Our Baptist Church is making supper for them on Saturday night. That is... if the buses and transport have not come for them yet by then. Most of them say they are waiting for Transport to go back to Zim. They have been there since last Friday. The way has been cleared for them to stay until next week. These people are mostly from Tokoza and Katlehong. Apparently there is another safety station in Tokoza itself.

It was very moving to see everyone there pitching in and arriving bringing food and blankets. Was cool to see. However you may feel about them being here in South Africa and having to leave now, these people are undergoing an Humanitarian crisis. Heard some stories of them being pulled out of their houses in the middle of the night and beaten, men woman and children. Their houses were ransacked and burned and then the space was allotted to someone else.

They were very well behaved and orderly, lining up meekly for their share of food prepared for them by the church people. Were well spoken and friendly. Some of them huddled around the TVs watching the main news bulletin, Keeping silent for the most part until the news reporter spoke of the 42 people murdered so far. I was scared to bring in the 3 black bags of clothes and shoes we had cleared out of our cupboard (amazing how much stuff we have in our cupboard we never use). But they never bothered me at all. I put the clothes with some others that will be distributed or re-allocated by the Church overseers. There were some obvious natural leaders there among the group. Young men who made sure that everybody had food before they took for themselves. Our three kids were playing with their kids there on the floor with the toys that someone had given them. I had to have words with the youngest one about letting them have the toys. To explain to him that he was going home to a houseful of toys and that those few throwaway macdonalds toys were all that those kids had.

The people were clean and well kempt. I did not see too many signs of obvious injury. They also seemed to be looking after the community hall pretty well and respecting the property. But the saddest thing of all was to see the hopelessness and hollowness and hurt in their eyes.
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Terrible. :(

Slightly o/t but I just got this email, just find it incredibly sad. No matter what you feel about the people in question its still a terrible situation.

In the heartfelt and hair raising spirit of humanity, with all emotion
and sadness in the wake of violence immeasurable, violence without
fear, we stand in need for brotherly comfort and shouldered support,
in need of truth in emotion, recognition and concern about the growth
of a terrible seed in a garden so loved and envied by the world for
its show of human spiritedness and desire for united growth. We stand
alone, unsure and cold in a blistering storm of fearless fury,
blistering bolts of unleashed anger, mistrust and hate over that which
we have not chosen to be our circumstance but that which has
progressively grown and proved to be stronger than we have tried to
be. We stand in need of brothers and sisters to whom we can call for a
shoulder to lean on, assured friends of a fighting nation with no
other option but to seek and to fight in spirit and hope for a safer
haven where humanity comes before difference.

We would like to extend this as a call for a united and non-aggressive
show of spirited and concious concern in a "Black T-Shirt Day" for the
victims of violence unwanted, emotional, physical, and spiritual pain
that has been flogged upon those whose only crime has been difference
and hope for a brighter day. We extend our arms for strong shoulders
to support us, to be a part of a day that shows an intellectual and
emotional spirit of conciousness and hope for a brighter day, hope for
the victory of humanity over terrible violence on defenseless people
who in all truth...just want to live...

Join us as Zimbabwean students lead the way in dressing in BLACK on
FRIDAY the 23RD of May 2008 as a sign of awareness and unity with those
who have died crying, those who now live in fear
over...just...being... Join us spread strength to those weakened by
the events of the past weekend in Gauteng which has sadly started to
spread across the country.There will petitions to fill out outside
every dining hall, your participation will be greatly appreciated.

We would like to invite you all to show your support and awareness of
this terror, to show your willingness for life and livelihood in
mourning the painful deaths of simple men and women who just
wanted....to live....

Zimbabwean Students 2008.
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:(:(:(
 
African Black Brotherhood ????

I am not sure I get this -- "we all one" nonsense :confused:

What were the massacres in Matabeleland all about :confused:

Why are the KENYANS killing each orher :confused:

Why did the RWANDANS kill each other:confused:

Why is DARFUR all in turmoil :confused:

What was the pre 1994 wyolens all about :confused:

Please come on people lets not loose sight of reality



You do not need to be a Wizard ( Sangoma) to work that one out.
 
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