marine1
Honorary Master
http://www.ewn.co.za/articleprog.aspx?id=19917
Looks like we are in Iran or one of those countries.
Looks like we are in Iran or one of those countries.
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PAGAD terrorists at it again
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Fudzy
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Quite honestly, I would take PAGADs word over the local cops given their inability to do anything.
Well you've made it quite clear that you're pro drug dealers.
PAGAD will only protect muslims. Do you want to see Cape Town become the "New London", where muslim's zealots and terrorists walk on the street shouting "Allah Ak Bar" ?
Most British settle in south Africa due to Weather, better education and lack of islamist fears (Leeds, East London and every big towns... The Sharia is used in England, btw). Great Britain is finished. Hopefully South Africa wont follow this way.
Most British settle in south Africa due to Weather, better education and lack of islamist fears (Leeds, East London and every big towns... The Sharia is used in England, btw). Great Britain is finished. Hopefully South Africa wont follow this way.
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Fudzy
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Where did you get that from?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Against_Gangsterism_and_Drugs
For most muslim zealots, Christians and Jews are inferiors to Muslims, and Buddhists and others should convert or die (as mentionned in the Kuran). So I don't think PAGAD is much better than Drug Dealers
marine1
Honorary Master
Rofl @ you, did I strike a nerve? They are terrorists and thats the way it will stay.
Get over yourself.
They are all Muslims - go and watch E TV and see for yourself.
Interesting points.
marine1
Honorary Master
Hmmm so quiet all of a sudden 
consider, for a moment, how the cape flats has been ravished by gang violence and drugs. add to that, the polices flat foot approach and there would be people who would react out of frustation and take the law into their own hands. would that be terrorism, disregarding which religion people follow?
marine1
Honorary Master
Who said that was terrorism? They blew up some restaurants and were involved in terrorist activities. That was the issue.
They are however rumoured to be doing this to stop others from moving in on their own trade.
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
+1. It wouldn't be terrorism.
Let's not forget that our own Helen Zille was arrested for illegal protesting after marching outside homes of drug dealers on the flats.
Majority of them are, the leaders of the organisation are all Muslim and they dress accordingly. But its not only for Muslims, the P in PAGAD stands for People. Theres a huge problem with drugs in Muslim communities around the country, they taking a stand to get rid of it and the gangs responsible.
marine1
Honorary Master
lets not forget, during apartheid, individuals who stood up against government was labeled terrorists. imho, the word terrorist is the latest buzz word... just like communist was the buzz word during the cold war era. before my time btw
marine1
Honorary Master
When people attack innocent civilians for their own gains no matter what those gains are or how noble they may seem, they are terrorists.
A country has laws, and believe it not the are lawyers of all colours and creeds in this new South Africa..
A lynch mob will never solve anything.. just this the riots of recent... all the problem were actually solved by mediation and negotiations.
Groups like PAGAD should have peaceful marches and pursue these problems in courts...
Anyone who takes to the street and violate's the general public's civil liberties to me is a criminal and should be treated as such.
A lynch mob will never solve anything.. just this the riots of recent... all the problem were actually solved by mediation and negotiations.
Groups like PAGAD should have peaceful marches and pursue these problems in courts...
Anyone who takes to the street and violate's the general public's civil liberties to me is a criminal and should be treated as such.
MrMikey
Well-Known Member
An analysis of the World Muslim population by Country / Region-
South Africa-Pop 49,052,489- 2.0%- 981,050 (Muslims)
United Kingdom-Pop 61,113,205-2.9%-1,650,057 (Muslims)
http://www.factbook.net/muslim_pop.php
Now I don't know what % of the abovementioned residents you would consider as "zealots and terrorists"
but assuming the ratio is similar then I would suggest SA has as much of a "problem" as the
UK.
"The Sharia is used in England, btw"
Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece
That's the UK..then in South Africa....
TRADITIONAL COURTS BILL- To affirm the recognition of the traditional justice system and its values, based on restorative justice and reconciliation; to provide for the structure and functioning of traditional courts in line with constitutional imperatives and values; to enhance customary law and the customs of communities observing a system of customary law; and to provide for matters connected therewith.
Nature of traditional courts
7. Traditional courts are distinct from courts referred to in section 166 of the
Constitution, and operate in accordance with a system of customary law and custom that
seeks to—
(a) prevent conflict;
(b) maintain harmony; and
(c) resolve disputes where they have occurred, in a manner that promotes
restorative justice and reconciliation and in accordance with the norms and
standards reflected in the Constitution.
Etc...etc. http://www.pmg.org.za/files/bills/080410b15-08.pdf
I must admit, I don't see much difference between the two traditional justice systems.
