PAGAD terrorists at it again

[samuelp]

An analysis of the World Muslim population by Country / Region-

South Africa-Pop 49,052,489- 2.0%- 981,050 (Muslims)

United Kingdom-Pop 61,113,205-2.9%-1,650,057 (Muslims)

http://www.factbook.net/muslim_pop.php

Now I don't know what % of the abovementioned residents you would consider as "zealots and terrorists"
but assuming the ratio is similar then I would suggest SA has as much of a "problem" as the
UK.

"The Sharia is used in England, btw"








Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece

That's the UK..then in South Africa....

TRADITIONAL COURTS BILL- To affirm the recognition of the traditional justice system and its values, based on restorative justice and reconciliation; to provide for the structure and functioning of traditional courts in line with constitutional imperatives and values; to enhance customary law and the customs of communities observing a system of customary law; and to provide for matters connected therewith.

Nature of traditional courts
7. Traditional courts are distinct from courts referred to in section 166 of the
Constitution, and operate in accordance with a system of customary law and custom that
seeks to—
(a) prevent conflict;
(b) maintain harmony; and
(c) resolve disputes where they have occurred, in a manner that promotes
restorative justice and reconciliation and in accordance with the norms and
standards reflected in the Constitution.

Etc...etc. http://www.pmg.org.za/files/bills/080410b15-08.pdf

I must admit, I don't see much difference between the two traditional justice systems.

Um :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_England
http://www.answers.com/topic/islam-in-the-united-kingdom

Muslims in UK : about 3,000,000, and growing at an outstanding pace !
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute....n-rising-10-times-faster-than-rest-of-the-uk/

You should leave now, otherwise you will have to rename your child Muhammad or Aisha !

 

[marine1]

Um :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_England
http://www.answers.com/topic/islam-in-the-united-kingdom

Muslims in UK : about 3,000,000, and growing at an outstanding pace !
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute....n-rising-10-times-faster-than-rest-of-the-uk/

You should leave now, otherwise you will have to rename your child Muhammad or Aisha !

The UK is finished, it is no longer England.
I wouldnt go there for any money in the world.

 

[samuelp]

The UK is finished, it is no longer England.
I wouldnt go there for any money in the world.

I agree. I don't know why such "gold seekers" want to leave a country such as South Africa for the mess of the United Kingdom. If you want to avoid crime and earn a lot of money, there are beautiful places around.
Hopefully the DA will improve the situation in the Western Cape and then, there will be no need to move to Australia.

 

[marine1]

I agree. I don't know why such "gold seekers" want to leave a country such as South Africa for the mess of the United Kingdom. If you want to avoid crime and earn a lot of money, there are beautiful places around.
Hopefully the DA will improve the situation in the Western Cape and then, there will be no need to move to Australia.

Agreed

 

[CorneN]

I'll never forget the footage of PAGAD where they were shooting at one of the Staggie brothers. The one guys was shooting while rolling from side to side in the ride. I just thought "too many movies there mate".

Anywway, aynone of a staggie burger and a pagad of chips? lmao

 

[Molokai]

PAGAD will only protect muslims. Do you want to see Cape Town become the "New London", where muslim's zealots and terrorists walk on the street shouting "Allah Ak Bar" ?
Most British settle in south Africa due to Weather, better education and lack of islamist fears (Leeds, East London and every big towns... The Sharia is used in England, btw). Great Britain is finished. Hopefully South Africa wont follow this way.

LOL @ samuelp GB is finished? and SA is paradise? Problems in London are minute compared to the **** that goes on in SA. LOL

 

[Molokai]

An analysis of the World Muslim population by Country / Region-

South Africa-Pop 49,052,489- 2.0%- 981,050 (Muslims)

United Kingdom-Pop 61,113,205-2.9%-1,650,057 (Muslims)

http://www.factbook.net/muslim_pop.php

Now I don't know what % of the abovementioned residents you would consider as "zealots and terrorists"
but assuming the ratio is similar then I would suggest SA has as much of a "problem" as the
UK.

"The Sharia is used in England, btw"








Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece

That's the UK..then in South Africa....

TRADITIONAL COURTS BILL- To affirm the recognition of the traditional justice system and its values, based on restorative justice and reconciliation; to provide for the structure and functioning of traditional courts in line with constitutional imperatives and values; to enhance customary law and the customs of communities observing a system of customary law; and to provide for matters connected therewith.

Nature of traditional courts
7. Traditional courts are distinct from courts referred to in section 166 of the
Constitution, and operate in accordance with a system of customary law and custom that
seeks to—
(a) prevent conflict;
(b) maintain harmony; and
(c) resolve disputes where they have occurred, in a manner that promotes
restorative justice and reconciliation and in accordance with the norms and
standards reflected in the Constitution.

Etc...etc. http://www.pmg.org.za/files/bills/080410b15-08.pdf

I must admit, I don't see much difference between the two traditional justice systems.

Well said, and don't forget the thousands upon thousands of somalis on the Cape Flats, they also all muselim.

LOL @ SamualP, SA's better edication systems to GB!

 

[marine1]

Whats a Muselim?

 

[krycor]

phobias some people have is just funny as heck.

 

[Sackboy]

A country has laws, and believe it not the are lawyers of all colours and creeds in this new South Africa..

A lynch mob will never solve anything.. just this the riots of recent... all the problem were actually solved by mediation and negotiations.

Groups like PAGAD should have peaceful marches and pursue these problems in courts...

Anyone who takes to the street and violate's the general public's civil liberties to me is a criminal and should be treated as such.

... and what causes lynch mobs to go on the rampage. Remove the cause and we won't need PAGAD or any other vigilante group.

 

[peace]

When people attack innocent civilians for their own gains no matter what those gains are or how noble they may seem, they are terrorists.

So at last you admit Americans are terroists.

 

[peace]

I agree. I don't know why such "gold seekers" want to leave a country such as South Africa for the mess of the United Kingdom. If you want to avoid crime and earn a lot of money, there are beautiful places around.
Hopefully the DA will improve the situation in the Western Cape and then, there will be no need to move to Australia.

Agreed

Wow lol. both agree with each other, i hope they not like Alan & frankie.(one person two alias)

 

[marine1]

So at last you admit Americans are terroists.

I must have missed that post

 

[samuelp]

LOL @ samuelp GB is finished? and SA is paradise? Problems in London are minute compared to the **** that goes on in SA. LOL

Not really :
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=100&v=94
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2186rank.html

UK has no future

 

[greggpb]

... and what causes lynch mobs to go on the rampage. Remove the cause and we won't need PAGAD or any other vigilante group.

Are you trying to say the means justifies the end? I am all for protest, but it must be civilized.. not just rampant barbarianism

 

[Sackboy]

Are you trying to say the means justifies the end? I am all for protest, but it must be civilized.. not just rampant barbarianism

No, just that incompetence in public service is often the cause of civil unrest.

 

[daveza]

Curious..

If for example PAGAD was a jewish, christian or atheist vigilante group would we be as critical ?

In other words are we in favour of their agenda but find it hard to support because they are muslims - or do we not support anti-drug vigilantism by any particular group ??

 

[Alan]

Curious..

If for example PAGAD was a jewish, christian or atheist vigilante group would we be as critical ?

Yes

In other words are we in favour of their agenda but find it hard to support because they are muslims - or do we not support anti-drug vigilantism by any particular group ??

No

 

[marine1]

In other words are we in favour of their agenda but find it hard to support because they are muslims - or do we not support anti-drug vigilantism by any particular group ??

Do you not remember they blow up a restaurant? They attacked innocent civilians.
Has nothing to do with them being Muslim.

 

[d0b33]

Do you not remember they blow up a restaurant? They attacked innocent civilians.
Has nothing to do with them being Muslim.

The guy responsible for the explosions was arrested AFAIK after that the explosions stopped.