Parliament has gone mad?

John Giles

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Hi,

The South African parliament has gone into overdrive. It is creating law faster than ever before. I feel like I can’t keep up - and I’m a lawyer. I feel overwhelmed. It takes a lot of time to read new laws and the cost of complying with them is often huge. Many of these laws are going to have an huge impact of the technology or IT industry.

We are fast catching up to Australia - one of the most regulated countries in the world. For example, once the Consumer Protection Bill becomes law, we will have the most protected consumer in any country in the whole world. Many of these new laws were required as the common law did not adequately deal with the issue, but our parliament has taken it to the extreme and over-regulated and implemented laws that are too comprehensive and too difficult to implement. In many instances, government itself is struggling to implement these new laws.

The amount of new law and regulation is breathtaking. And we are not talking minor irrelevant laws.

We are talking laws like the Companies Act 2008 - the act that provides the framework for every company and close corporation in the country. Do you own a company or a CC - well you need to read the new Companies Act.

King 3 is another one. This is not mandatory, but if people ask you why you have not complied with King 3, then you need to be able to explain why you didn’t. “Sorry what” is not an acceptable answer, I’m afraid.

The Consumer Protection Act is another one. This law will have a huge impact of virtually every business in South Africa. If you sell goods or services to someone (a consumer) then it probably applies to you. That is everyone, isn’t it?

The Protection of Personal Information Bill has been a long time coming and will not be with us that soon, but it will also have a big impact. Everyone processes personal information to some extent or another. And if you do, then you have to comply with the PPI Act.

Considering that old saying that ignorance of the law is no excuse, you need to read all of these laws and determine how they impact on you and what you need to be doing to comply with them.

I'm really interested to know how other people feel about these laws? Are you aware of them? Have you read them? Are you planning to comply with them or just ignore them?
 
I'm not even sure I understand the new companies act; I thought CC's were being abolished. In addition to that, I only recently learned about RICA. I'm guessing King3 has something to do with corporate social responsibility?

Ah sigh. The PPI act sounds like so much red tape. Not going to enjoy that one...
 
would probably help if there was a summary of each of the things you posted.
 
Thanks for highlighting this situation John

Very interesting indeed. I dont think that many individuals have the resources to follow these laws.

Surely for a law to be valid it must be able to be followed?

As a simple example. A driver of a vehicle is compelled to stop at a red traffic light, however if the vehicle's brakes had failed and he was UNABLE to comply, surely he could not be charged with breaking the traffic light regulation?
 
something written by John

I have lawyers in the family and friends at Adams & Adams. They do the law for me :D

In any profession you need to learn new stuff at an alarming rate to stay ahead of your competitors/peers. So it doesn't suprise me that you are affected by this too.

FYI, your starting statement/question differs a whole lot from your ending statement/question which may confuse people a little.

So starting off with: Did you guys know of these laws and what do you think of them? as a lawyer I'm having a tough time keeping up with new laws passed in South Africa. It's dizzying to say the least.

And then you use the quote function to quote some laws :D
 
Somebody would get the blame. Let's say... wait. Why are we derailing this thread?

\jumps back on topic - How many laws, on average, does parliament pass per week?
 
Hi,

The South African parliament has gone into overdrive. It is creating law faster than ever before. I feel like I can’t keep up - and I’m a lawyer. I feel overwhelmed. It takes a lot of time to read new laws and the cost of complying with them is often huge. Many of these laws are going to have an huge impact of the technology or IT industry.

We are fast catching up to Australia - one of the most regulated countries in the world. For example, once the Consumer Protection Bill becomes law, we will have the most protected consumer in any country in the whole world. Many of these new laws were required as the common law did not adequately deal with the issue, but our parliament has taken it to the extreme and over-regulated and implemented laws that are too comprehensive and too difficult to implement. In many instances, government itself is struggling to implement these new laws.

The amount of new law and regulation is breathtaking. And we are not talking minor irrelevant laws.

We are talking laws like the Companies Act 2008 - the act that provides the framework for every company and close corporation in the country. Do you own a company or a CC - well you need to read the new Companies Act.

King 3 is another one. This is not mandatory, but if people ask you why you have not complied with King 3, then you need to be able to explain why you didn’t. “Sorry what” is not an acceptable answer, I’m afraid.

The Consumer Protection Act is another one. This law will have a huge impact of virtually every business in South Africa. If you sell goods or services to someone (a consumer) then it probably applies to you. That is everyone, isn’t it?

The Protection of Personal Information Bill has been a long time coming and will not be with us that soon, but it will also have a big impact. Everyone processes personal information to some extent or another. And if you do, then you have to comply with the PPI Act.

Considering that old saying that ignorance of the law is no excuse, you need to read all of these laws and determine how they impact on you and what you need to be doing to comply with them.

I'm really interested to know how other people feel about these laws? Are you aware of them? Have you read them? Are you planning to comply with them or just ignore them?


Heaven help us. An ambulance chaser blatantly touting on MyBB.
 
Funny that you should mention an ambulance because we actually have a picture of an ambulance on our web site (under the about section). :) Right next to where we say the following:

"We focus more on dispute pre-emption or avoidance rather than dispute resolution: We assist with the managing of legal risks instead of solving legal problems. Our subscribers would like a fence at the top of the cliff rather than an ambulance at the bottom. Much of today’s focus on the application of technology is on improving the performance of the metaphorical ambulance - rendering it better equipped, quicker, and perhaps cheaper to run. Our subscribers would prefer not to engage the ambulance in the first place."

Anyway, that is off topic. I am really interested to know how other people feel about these laws.
 
Thanks for highlighting this situation John

Very interesting indeed. I dont think that many individuals have the resources to follow these laws.

Surely for a law to be valid it must be able to be followed?

As a simple example. A driver of a vehicle is compelled to stop at a red traffic light, however if the vehicle's brakes had failed and he was UNABLE to comply, surely he could not be charged with breaking the traffic light regulation?

I'm afraid a law is valid regardless of whether it can be followed or not. A lack of resources is no excuse. But I think it is unfair, which is why I ask the question whether parliament has gone mad?
 
King 3

I'm not even sure I understand the new companies act; I thought CC's were being abolished. In addition to that, I only recently learned about RICA. I'm guessing King3 has something to do with corporate social responsibility?

Ah sigh. The PPI act sounds like so much red tape. Not going to enjoy that one...

King 3 deals with corporate governance, but also IT governance, IT risks and IT security.
 
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