PC Gaming upgrade kit advice

MariusJunior said:
Okay here's a different kind of question: what would be the best build for my money that would let an rtx 2080 shine?
Not caring about overclocking and stuff. Or a motherboard with slots for things that does not exist yet.
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At what resolution?
 
MariusJunior said:
1080, I might aim for more than 60 fps. Maybe I will upgrade to a decent monitor that can handle 144, not sure yet
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A 2080ti would push that easily, strangely enough I was watching last night and even the 4core 8 thread 3300x is giving the 3600 a good run for it's money right now.
 
MariusJunior said:
1080, I might aim for more than 60 fps. Maybe I will upgrade to a decent monitor that can handle 144, not sure yet
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Pretty much any current model CPU should give you 60fps on a 2080 at 1080p. That said, to not be bottlenecked at 1080p at all with a 2080, you should get an i5 10600.

In fact, if gaming is the only thing you do on your PC, and you have R11k + for a motherboard and CPU and you don't mind overclocking features, the answer is always 10600K + Z490.... except when you are rich, then the answer is 10900K + Z490.

The decisions gets more difficult if you don't want to overclock at all, and you want a cheap non-overclocking motherboard. Then your memory on the i5 can only go as high as 2666Mhz, which makes the 10600K a waste, which means you should rather go Ryzen 3600 and save a heap of money.
 
Barbarian Conan said:
Pretty much any current model CPU should give you 60fps on a 2080 at 1080p. That said, to not be bottlenecked at 1080p at all with a 2080, you should get an i5 10600.

In fact, if gaming is the only thing you do on your PC, and you have R11k + for a motherboard and CPU and you don't mind overclocking features, the answer is always 10600K + Z490.... except when you are rich, then the answer is 10900K + Z490.

The decisions gets more difficult if you don't want to overclock at all, and you want a cheap non-overclocking motherboard. Then your memory on the i5 can only go as high as 2666Mhz, which makes the 10600K a waste, which means you should rather go Ryzen 3600 and save a heap of money.
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At 1080p the 3600 will be fine, even a 3300x would actually be fine at 1080 with a 2080ti
 
Lupus said:
At 1080p the 3600 will be fine, even a 3300x would actually be fine at 1080 with a 2080ti
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Fine, as in there shouldn't be a noticeable difference, and it will be well above 60fps for every game out there at the moment.

However, if you want every last frame you can get, the 10600K will help you get from 120fps to 128fps avg in Rise of the Tomb Raider, or if you want to reach that 132fps, you can spend a heap more and get a 10900K.
 
Barbarian Conan said:
Fine, as in there shouldn't be a noticeable difference, and it will be well above 60fps for every game out there at the moment.

However, if you want every last frame you can get, the 10600K will help you get from 120fps to 128fps avg in Rise of the Tomb Raider, or if you want to reach that 132fps, you can spend a heap more and get a 10900K.
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The difference was a few FPS, once you start crossing over a certain threshold of cost and benefit.
 
Currently the frontrunner for me is the 10600, not sure yet if I need the k... Overclocking is not that attractive to me.
The z490 mobo's are just so expensive, but it looks like the way to go?
 
MariusJunior said:
Currently the frontrunner for me is the 10600, not sure yet if I need the k... Overclocking is not that attractive to me.
The z490 mobo's are just so expensive, but it looks like the way to go?
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Remember cost to benefit, if the cost of something is 25% more, is the 10% more FPS worth it?
 
Lupus said:
The difference was a few FPS, once you start crossing over a certain threshold of cost and benefit.
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And to be honest, once you have a 2080(ti) you should really seriously consider going 1440p with your 144hz anyway, and then the gap is even smaller.
 
MariusJunior said:
Currently the frontrunner for me is the 10600, not sure yet if I need the k... Overclocking is not that attractive to me.
The z490 mobo's are just so expensive, but it looks like the way to go?
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That's the problem with Intel, running memory at it's rated speed is considered overclocking, and that is only supported on z490 boards.
Add to that the need to buy a cooler, which is included with AMD, and the price difference really is considerable.

As for overclocking, I got an extra year or two out of my i7 2600K by overclocking it. Then again it was a lot easier to justify back in the day. I bought it for just over R3000 back in the day when the K premium was only a few hundred Rands, and it came with a cooler which I could use until I felt I wanted something better.
 
Any opinions on the gigabyte z490 ud mobo?
It's a lot cheaper than the rest but it's got all the stuff I need it seems.
 
MariusJunior said:
Yeah I keep going back and forth with this.
Reasonable or all out balls to the wall.
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MariusJunior said:
Any opinions on the gigabyte z490 ud mobo?
It's a lot cheaper than the rest but it's got all the stuff I need it seems.
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The 10600 would be the better gaming cpu over the r5 3600, but it's not a massive difference and will cost R600 more.
I would not spend the money on a z490.
Other question is will the intel MB support the next gen cpus, I dunno. I know the B450 will support ryzen 4x00 but again maybe you don't want to upgrade and will just go with whatever new platform is around 5yrs from now which is pretty much what I do.

Compare a B460+10600+RAM to a B450+3600+RAM and take it from there...
 
ponder said:
The 10600 would be the better gaming cpu over the r5 3600, but it's not a massive difference and will cost R600 more.
I would not spend the money on a z490.
Other question is will the intel MB support the next gen cpus, I dunno. I know the B450 will support ryzen 4x00 but again maybe you don't want to upgrade and will just go with whatever new platform is around 5yrs from now which is pretty much what I do.

Compare a B460+10600+RAM to a B450+3600+RAM and take it from there...
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Thank you. Will do that.
 
Okay here is what I'm going with:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sgzzDx

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600 3.3 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard*: Asus TUF GAMING B460-PRO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1200 Motherboard
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Video Card**: MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB Video Card
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

*Actually going micro ATX; The site does not have it listed.
**Video card will be replaced with a 2070 as soon as I can afford it.

I'm not sharing the box I chose, will post a pic when it's done instead.
Thanks for all your help guys, this is my first build since I was a high school kid.
 
MariusJunior said:
Okay here is what I'm going with:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sgzzDx

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600 3.3 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard*: Asus TUF GAMING B460-PRO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1200 Motherboard
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Video Card**: MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB Video Card
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

*Actually going micro ATX; The site does not have it listed.
**Video card will be replaced with a 2070 as soon as I can afford it.

I'm not sharing the box I chose, will post a pic when it's done instead.
Thanks for all your help guys, this is my first build since I was a high school kid.
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That gfx card kind of negates everything you're trying to do, perhaps you should rather look at getting a lower CPU for a better GFX card?
 
MariusJunior said:
Motherboard*: Asus TUF GAMING B460-PRO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1200 Motherboard
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

Video Card**: MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB Video Card
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You cannot run RAM any faster than 2933MHz on the B460 chipset. If you want to run the ram at higher speeds you need a Z490 to overclock it.

That 1050ti is crap & expensive even as a temp gpu, you'd do better to take that money and buy a used gpu on carbonite.
 
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