PC not Starting. Bootscreen loop.

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Issue:

Old PC: Yes.
Did you restart: Yes.

Took HDD out and put it in my other PC and backed up all the data. My PC, Windows did do a scan and repair on the drive the first time.

Back to PC with issues:
Took the ram out and replace. One by one. Same issue. Took the GPU out and put back. Same issue. (don't have a spare GPU).

F2 or F10 (F8, F12, Del) not working. Can't access Bios.

Tried it also with only the the display plugged in, nothing else.
Same issue.

Thanks for your input.

Can it be the HDD even though I can access it from another PC as a secondary drive?

I did try to start it is as the main drive in my PC but it doesn't pick it up.

No onboard GPU.
 
RedViking said:
Issue:

Old PC: Yes.
Did you restart: Yes.

Took HDD out and put it in my other PC and backed up all the data. My PC, Windows did do a scan and repair on the drive the first time.

Back to PC with issues:
Took the ram out and replace. One by one. Same issue. Took the GPU out and put back. Same issue. (don't have a spare GPU).

F2 or F10 not working. Can't access Bios.

Tried it also with only the the display plugged in, nothing else.
Same issue.

Thanks for your input.
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delete for bios? or F8/F12? does it have on board graphics? or multiple ram chips?
 
Any beeps or if you got a fancy motherboard, error code on the lcd?

If no to either or both. Very good chance the motherboard has gone.

Edit: Have a look at this video. This guy goes through a variety of possibilities.
 
Unplug from the wall and remove the battery from the motherboard to reset the CMOS..

Failing that, to test motherboard or failed CPU, remove all RAM and power it up, if you hear beeping (provided there is a speaker attached or plugged into the motherboard) there is hope.. if there are no beeps, motherboard or CPU may have given up on life..
 
Yes it can still be the hdd
The sectors you are accessing as a secondary drive may be ok whereas the ones you need to boot may be corrupted.
 
acidrain said:
Any beeps or if you got a fancy motherboard, error code on the lcd?

If no to either or both. Very good chance the motherboard has gone.

Edit: Have a look at this video. This guy goes through a variety of possibilities.
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I'll check the video a bit later. No beeps only if I have no ram in or no GPU. but beeps go away when I put everything back. Only option on the display is what you see in the youtube video I posted in OP
 
WAslayer said:
Unplug from the wall and remove the battery from the motherboard to reset the CMOS..

Failing that, to test motherboard or failed CPU, remove all RAM and power it up, if you hear beeping (provided there is a speaker attached or plugged into the motherboard) there is hope.. if there are no beeps, motherboard or CPU may have given up on life..
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Yes, there are beeps when I remove the hardware. will try the battery thing.
 
Cheers guys.

Removing the HDD and then hitting F2 sent my to the bios. Reconnect HDD and then it just loops.

Progress.

like @IssiAmd , probably the HDD.


Now. How I fix it without losing Windows on it?

I can format it from my other PC or put a new drive in, but then I lose windows that was on it.

Best way to repair the drive even if just temporary?
 
Haven't worked with these things since Windows 7 days but I don't think it would have changed.

In your scenario we would as you have already done, backup data to another pc and then reload pc.

To check the hdd don't use native windows scanner.
I think both Seagate and WD had scanning software.
We would use either depending on drive in question, either software can scan another brand though.
From there you should be able to determine whether it's worth it to continue using the drive.

I'll reiterate this was a while back.
Hopefully someone else has a solution more suitable to what you'd like to achieve.

Good luck
 
IssiAmd said:
Haven't worked with these things since Windows 7 days but I don't think it would have changed.

In your scenario we would as you have already done, backup data to another pc and then reload pc.

To check the hdd don't use native windows scanner.
I think both Seagate and WD had scanning software.
We would use either depending on drive in question, either software can scan another brand though.
From there you should be able to determine whether it's worth it to continue using the drive.

I'll reiterate this was a while back.
Hopefully someone else has a solution more suitable to what you'd like to achieve.

Good luck
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Cool. Its a samsung hdd
 
RedViking said:
Cheers guys.

Removing the HDD and then hitting F2 sent my to the bios. Reconnect HDD and then it just loops.

Progress.

like @IssiAmd , probably the HDD.


Now. How I fix it without losing Windows on it?

I can format it from my other PC or put a new drive in, but then I lose windows that was on it.

Best way to repair the drive even if just temporary?
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If you have a spare drive of the same capacity (or larger, ideally not smaller although can be done but requires performing a shrink of the partition on the broken drive and the idea is to avoid unnecessary interaction with the the broken drive), you can attempt to clone the drive to the spare, if its not already too broken.. this realistically the best chance you have got of saving windows on the broke drive..
 
WAslayer said:
If you have a spare drive of the same capacity (or larger, ideally not smaller although can be done but requires performing a shrink of the partition on the broken drive and the idea is to avoid unnecessary interaction with the the broken drive), you can attempt to clone the drive to the spare, if its not already too broken.. this realistically the best chance you have got of saving windows on the broke drive..
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Yeah, think I will go buy another drive tomorrow. Don't have a spare.

Did a scan with SeaTools from my other PC:

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WAslayer said:
If you have a spare drive of the same capacity (or larger, ideally not smaller although can be done but requires performing a shrink of the partition on the broken drive and the idea is to avoid unnecessary interaction with the the broken drive), you can attempt to clone the drive to the spare, if its not already too broken.. this realistically the best chance you have got of saving windows on the broke drive..
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I think I have Windows 7 somewhere. Will see if I can find it. I managed to backup the important files.

Then install 7 again on a new drive and then see if I can get the upgrade to windows 10 somewhere.
 
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