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looksharp

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hi all my games except wolfvenstein crash my system since i upgraded to radeon 4890 graphic card.Some say my powersupply (450w) is to small.I,ve upgraded to windows 7 and it got worse.Vista ran the games a bit longer before restarting my system after just about 4 0r 5 minutes play time.Dirt,Necrovision,call of juraz 2 and a lot more just crash after a while playing.What can be the problem.I can play wolfenstein for hours and nothing happens:sick:
 
What PSU is it..? ie make model. Generic...?
Chances are it's the PSU in any case though.
 
looksharp said:
hi all my games except wolfvenstein crash my system since i upgraded to radeon 4890 graphic card.Some say my powersupply (450w) is to small.I,ve upgraded to windows 7 and it got worse.Vista ran the games a bit longer before restarting my system after just about 4 0r 5 minutes play time.Dirt,Necrovision,call of juraz 2 and a lot more just crash after a while playing.What can be the problem.I can play wolfenstein for hours and nothing happens:sick:
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try it with another gpu first, then psu.
 
looksharp said:
How can i tell what psu it is or must i open the case to get to it?
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You can just take off the side panel and look at what is says on the PSU itself. It this a prebuilt system though? I am just asking because sometimes stores put those stupid little stickers on that if you open the case your "warranty" with them becomes voided. Just checking in case:)
 
Have you tried fully removing the old Nvidia drivers, search google for a tool that will this, not sure of the name? Also try run Speedfan and monitor temps....
 
Zenbaas said:
You can just take off the side panel and look at what is says on the PSU itself. It this a prebuilt system though? I am just asking because sometimes stores put those stupid little stickers on that if you open the case your "warranty" with them becomes voided. Just checking in case:)
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open the case and all i can see is model LPG9-25 450w
 
Conradl said:
Have you tried fully removing the old Nvidia drivers, search google for a tool that will this, not sure of the name? Also try run Speedfan and monitor temps....
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Still got nividia physx but that was only installed when i installed a game
 
looksharp said:
Still got nividia physx but that was only installed when i installed a game
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So you running ATI for 3D and nvidia for Physx? Try remove the nvidia card, and make sure that all the drivers are removed (use something like this: http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/). Then download speedfan and check for overheating....

Overheating and driver conflicts can often cause unexpected reboots....
 
Conradl said:
So you running ATI for 3D and nvidia for Physx? Try remove the nvidia card, and make sure that all the drivers are removed (use something like this: http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/). Then download speedfan and check for overheating....

Overheating and driver conflicts can often cause unexpected reboots....
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The nividia card is not in the pc anymore
 
looksharp said:
The nividia card is not in the pc anymore
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OK, but the drivers may still be present and causing problems so remove them; assuming that you upgraded and your previous OS had nvidia drivers (and check for overheating)....

Also, you can run your old card for Physx and your new card for 3D - can improve performance quite a bit....
 
Conradl said:
OK, but the drivers may still be present and causing problems so remove them; assuming that you upgraded and your previous OS had nvidia drivers (and check for overheating)....

Also, you can run your old card for Physx and your new card for 3D - can improve performance quite a bit....
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You must really try to explain this to me step by step because i dont know much about this and must i reinstall the nividia drivers again if i put the gt 8600 card in
 
Conradl said:
OK, but the drivers may still be present and causing problems so remove them; assuming that you upgraded and your previous OS had nvidia drivers (and check for overheating)....

Also, you can run your old card for Physx and your new card for 3D - can improve performance quite a bit....
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+1 this is a possibility. However:
ATI Radeon™ HD 4890 System Requirements

* PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard
* 500 Watt or greater power supply with two 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connectors recommended (600 Watt and four 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)
* Certified power supplies are recommended. Refer to http://ati.amd.com/certifiedPSU for a list of Certified products
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Zenbaas said:
+1 this is a possibility. However:
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This is what i retrieved last time mobo Ok M2n-mx rev1.xx
Chipset nividia mcp61
Southbrigde same
lpcio ITE IT 8712
Bios American megatrends
version 0081
Date 05/11/2007
Graphic interface PCI express
link width x16
 
Zenbaas said:
+1 this is a possibility. However:
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OK, good point and I am glad you brought this up because I was wondering. My 7900GS has two power connectors. To see what would happen I unplugged the one - and my system works fine? So why two, or am I just missing something obvious?
 
Conradl said:
OK, good point and I am glad you brought this up because I was wondering. My 7900GS has two power connectors. To see what would happen I unplugged the one - and my system works fine? So why two, or am I just missing something obvious?
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The newer cards draw a lot more power than some of the older ones did which is why they require two power connectors. Don't know about your 7900GS but I have had similar issues as looksharp with my old 9800GX2 which was overpowering my PSU and causing random restarts when I was playing graphics intensive games.

EDIT: And his 450w PSU is in all likelihood a generic one which probably only deliver 300-350w continuous power which is insufficient for his system thus causing random reboots when too much power is drawn from the PSU. But I would still use something like driversweeper and remove all the old Nvidia drivers (including physX for now) which may be causing some additional problems.
 
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Zenbaas said:
The newer cards draw a lot more power than some of the older ones did which is why they require two power connectors. Don't know about your 7900GS but I have had similar issues as looksharp with my old 9800GX2 which was overpowering my PSU and causing random restarts when I was playing graphics intensive games.

EDIT: And his 450w PSU is in all likelihood a generic one which probably only deliver 300-350w continuous power which is insufficient for his system thus causing random reboots when too much power is drawn from the PSU. But I would still use something like driversweeper and remove all the old Nvidia drivers (including physX for now) which may be causing some additional problems.
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thanks guys i am going to try this and come back to you on this and try getting a bigger psu
 
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