[Personal Experiences] Hisense TV's

[robertl]

Hi all
Looking for a 65inch TV, so OLED's are out of the question,
it will be used, mainly, for watching sport (F1;Rugby;Soccer etc) and blu-ray movies.
So what would you recommend, budget is around R16000.00.
Thanks

 

[epah]

Hi all
Looking for a 65inch TV, so OLED's are out of the question,
it will be used, mainly, for watching sport (F1;Rugby;Soccer etc) and blu-ray movies.
So what would you recommend, budget is around R16000.00.
Thanks

Hisense has terrible motion processing so i would steer clear especially for sports, The ball might disappear sometimes. It will be good for the blu ray though if you watch HDR/DV content.

Samsung has an over saturation problem so the grass on the field will be neon/luminous green instead of just green but it will have better motion processing.

I would take this sony, King of motion processing, will be great for sport but it is an IPS panel so blacks will be lackluster and Dont expect anything good interms of HDR though.

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At that price you wont be able to have it all, some compromises will have to be made.

 

[anonym]

Dear Hisense community. I purchased a q8600 2 years ago. It had very noticable dirty screen effect and very noticable blooming(but I think this is just Hisense). After an update it had severe motion issues. More specifically judder, black borders and red ghosting. I sent it to hisense they said it is a panel issue and recommended a refund because of no stock. They were not specific about what was a panel issue. I refunded it and got the u8g. The u8g have acceptable motion( no black borders but still some judder) but the red ghosting is still there. It also has dirty screen effect but looks less severe BUT it causes some vertical banding sometimes (i suspect or its the motion processing).@Hisense or anybody else, can you tell me if this is a panel, board or software problem ? Does anybody even have a problem free set? Would highly appreciate some answers. If left unanswered, I would do an exchange and if the problem persists I would have to save up and go for the LG OLED.

I exchanged the U8g for a new unit. Still the same red smearing issues. I think ALL them have bad panels. I have a theory that Hisense thinks south africans are dumb and are exploiting us(I have anecdotal evidence for this). So I am returning this one as well. I see the samsung 55" q70a going for 14k and 65 inch 20k... Scared to actually buy an oled because of screen burn in and pixel degradation(dying pixels). LCD's are more reliable for the long run. The 50" qn90a is going for 20k but that is so small though. Any thoughts on the q70a ?

 

[anonym]

Yes I got one last week! Hirsch had a good special on the 65 inch u7g. I think I paid 14k for it.

So far my experience has been excellent. I don't even mind the vidaa os,it's really snappy and have not been using my mi box with the new TV thus far.

Picture quantity is great and no regrets on this buy

Does your panel have dirty screen effect or red motion smearing ? If it does not than my guess is that the 65 inch tv's don't have those motion issues because they use a different chip.

 

[epah]

I exchanged the U8g for a new unit. Still the same red smearing issues. I think ALL them have bad panels. I have a theory that Hisense thinks south africans are dumb and are exploiting us(I have anecdotal evidence for this). So I am returning this one as well. I see the samsung 55" q70a going for 14k and 65 inch 20k... Scared to actually buy an oled because of screen burn in and pixel degradation(dying pixels). LCD's are more reliable for the long run. The 50" qn90a is going for 20k but that is so small though. Any thoughts on the q70a ?

Q70a is one of the tvs to avoid. Too expensive for what it offers. No FALD, dismal peak brightness so forget about HDR and lets not talk about over saturated colours. Get the LG C1 and stop worrying about Burn in, It is not 2016 anymore.

 

[capd]

Q70a is one of the tvs to avoid. Too expensive for what it offers. No FALD, dismal peak brightness so forget about HDR and lets not talk about over saturated colours. Get the LG C1 and stop worrying about Burn in, It is not 2016 anymore.

Insane how Samsung go backwards some years. Seems to be a marketing strategy.

 

[epah]

Insane how Samsung go backwards some years. Seems to be a marketing strategy.

They target the every day man who doesnt have a clue what to look out for and it works for them because they sell these crap tvs by millions.

 

[FoxFire675]

I exchanged the U8g for a new unit. Still the same red smearing issues. I think ALL them have bad panels. I have a theory that Hisense thinks south africans are dumb and are exploiting us(I have anecdotal evidence for this). So I am returning this one as well. I see the samsung 55" q70a going for 14k and 65 inch 20k... Scared to actually buy an oled because of screen burn in and pixel degradation(dying pixels). LCD's are more reliable for the long run. The 50" qn90a is going for 20k but that is so small though. Any thoughts on the q70a ?

Q70A is a good tv. Bought the 55" on Tuesday. Makro has the 65" for R16k on sale. Picture quality is quite good. Only thing is black uniformity is not so grand as there is light bleed but its not a its a mid-range tv so cant complain. It has a 120hz panel and HDMI 2.1 support if you ever need that. Wait for the new TCL C835 or Hisense U7H/U8H if you want an LCD, though I'm not sure on pricing on those.

Generally, OLED's are more reliable in the long run as they have less components that could fail. An LCD tv has a back light with many LED's. Those are much more prone to failure especially when it comes to FALD tv's. Since Oled is self lit, you can only get a dead pixel which is much less distracting and livable than having a whole section of your tv go dark.

 

[FoxFire675]

I actually watch a lot of DV content,sometimes i go out of my way just to find DV content, I enjoy closing my curtains and immersing myself in DV, My TV gets very bright and it blinds me sometimes, But unfortunately some of the light bleeds into areas that are meant to be deep black due to FALD thus ruining the PQ for me, I actually notice these things. I will gladly sacrifice some brightness for some deep blacks.

The A1 doesnt get that bright so i wouldnt even consider it, I think it only peaks at 400/500nits, C1 or C2 all the way.

I though you had an OLED because you've only been recommending them .

The C1 also doesn't get very bright. For evening and night viewing its fine (I am speaking from experience). Small highlights get bright but the overall screen brightness could be better. C9, CX and C1 have the same WBC panel. Some C1's have a WBE panel but the internal software limits them. The "evo" line up from LG have the newer WBE panels like the G1, C2 and G2. Those are the ones to get and are a real improvement

 

[epah]

I though you had an OLED because you've only been recommending them .

The C1 also doesn't get very bright. For evening and night viewing its fine (I am speaking from experience). Small highlights get bright but the overall screen brightness could be better. C9, CX and C1 have the same WBC panel. Some C1's have a WBE panel but the internal software limits them. The "evo" line up from LG have the newer WBE panels like the G1, C2 and G2. Those are the ones to get and are a real improvement

Haha, NAh i have an LCD, a friend has the C1 and I would pick that over my bright lcd. Highlights seem to pop better and look clearer on the c1. Reason i recommend Oleds is because i dont want people to make the same mistake I did when i bought my TV, I want them to get it right from the get go so they have no regrets.

 

[capd]

I though you had an OLED because you've only been recommending them .

The C1 also doesn't get very bright. For evening and night viewing its fine (I am speaking from experience). Small highlights get bright but the overall screen brightness could be better. C9, CX and C1 have the same WBC panel. Some C1's have a WBE panel but the internal software limits them. The "evo" line up from LG have the newer WBE panels like the G1, C2 and G2. Those are the ones to get and are a real improvement

More than bright enough at home for the majority of people who plan their TV rooms correctly, watch in the late afternoon, can afford curtains and blinds, etc.

Not like we are camping out in Makro.

 

[FoxFire675]

More than bright enough at home for the majority of people who plan their TV rooms correctly, watch in the late afternoon, can afford curtains and blinds, etc.

Not like we are camping out in Makro.

If you plan your living room based on what type of TV you're gonna get, then you have enough money to get any tv. Most people plan their living rooms on the size of tv and not the type of TV.

If on a Saturday during the day your watching sport and have to close your blinds/curtains to watch TV comfortably just because you bought an expensive OLED then you made the wrong choice. (I dont know of any sports channels that are broadcast in HDR as well to get that good brightness).

I'm not sure why people are applying the 1 tv fits all case here. The C1 is very good but its not for everyone and shouldn't be recommended to everyone. This is just my 2c from someone that owns multiple OLED tvs and still buys LCD tv's. If only people would just get Range Rover Sport and instead of buying a Haval H6. They wouldnt look back right?

 

[Craig M]

If you plan your living room based on what type of TV you're gonna get, then you have enough money to get any tv. Most people plan their living rooms on the size of tv and not the type of TV.

If on a Saturday during the day your watching sport and have to close your blinds/curtains to watch TV comfortably just because you bought an expensive OLED then you made the wrong choice. (I dont know of any sports channels that are broadcast in HDR as well to get that good brightness).

I'm not sure why people are applying the 1 tv fits all case here. The C1 is very good but its not for everyone and shouldn't be recommended to everyone. This is just my 2c from someone that owns multiple OLED tvs and still buys LCD tv's. If only people would just get Range Rover Sport and instead of buying a Haval H6. They wouldnt look back right?

I'm thinking the same thing with regards to OLED. I plan to use the TV in my bedroom which is brightly light. I will also be watching mostly during the day. So for me, the extra brightness current LCD TV's offer is the most important factor.

The 50" Samsung QN90A is on special at R16k and is looking real good. At around 2.4 meters sitting distance the size should be fine. Picture quality > size.

@epah I wanted to ask your thoughts on this reasoning as you are the resident OLED fan.

 

[capd]

If you plan your living room based on what type of TV you're gonna get, then you have enough money to get any tv. Most people plan their living rooms on the size of tv and not the type of TV.

If on a Saturday during the day your watching sport and have to close your blinds/curtains to watch TV comfortably just because you bought an expensive OLED then you made the wrong choice. (I dont know of any sports channels that are broadcast in HDR as well to get that good brightness).

I'm not sure why people are applying the 1 tv fits all case here. The C1 is very good but its not for everyone and shouldn't be recommended to everyone. This is just my 2c from someone that owns multiple OLED tvs and still buys LCD tv's. If only people would just get Range Rover Sport and instead of buying a Haval H6. They wouldnt look back right?

People who want and can afford the best, can afford to plan correctly.

At around 500 nits, the C1 is more than bright enough for the vast majority of rooms and viewing conditions, and is therefore a non issue for the most part.

If one has an exceptionally bright room and watches the majority of the time during the day at its brightest, then go QLED, but sacrifice picture quality and all other OLED benefits during dimmer lighting.

 

[epah]

I'm thinking the same thing with regards to OLED. I plan to use the TV in my bedroom which is brightly light. I will also be watching mostly during the day. So for me, the extra brightness current LCD TV's offer is the most important factor.

The 50" Samsung QN90A is on special at R16k and is looking real good. At around 2.4 meters sitting distance the size should be fine. Picture quality > size.

@epah I wanted to ask your thoughts on this reasoning as you are the resident OLED fan.

Oled has better picture quality over LCD, I don’t think anyone can dispute that, I have mentioned that OLED is has deeper blacks so contrast is just incredible, in some scenes it almost makes the picture look 3D like, you will never get an effect like that from LCD. For normal day to day viewing(sdr) OLED is bright enough unless you have it directly infront of a window.

LCD also has blooming due to the FALD and that just ruins the contrast even more, sometimes they get the algorithm wrong and you can actually see the zones switching on and off, that for me is another negative.

HDR/DV shouldn’t be a problem on OLED because no person with a brain should be watching HDR content in a bright room, lights should always be off and curtains shut, whether Oled or LCD, Details also pop out more on OLEd, you miss that with LCD. Trying watching a star field video on LCD and then OLED, there will be a lot more stars on the OLED and you will think you are watching a different video compared to the LCD.

And regarding the 50” QN90A you want to buy, I wouldn’t advice you to do so but that is also because I really dislike Samsung TVs(personal choice here) I think they are way overpriced for what you get. And you miss out on Dolby vision with Samsung which is a must for me. So that alone is the reason why I wouldn’t buy a Samsung, Dolby vision is that important to me . I know some will say HDR10 and DV is the same thing but that is an argument for another day. Oh and I think the QN90A 50” is an IPS panel not VA(this has to be confirmed though), which is highly undesirable due to its lack of giving deep blacks. There goes your contrast out the window. I think the 55” is VA though.

The only negatives I can think of on an OLed is:
*Might not be bright enough in a really bright room.
*lower color gamut compared to QLED

Negatives I can think of on the QN90A:
* Firstly it’s a Samsung.
*Blooming
*Ips panel
*lack of deep blacks
*over saturation - Samsung Color’s are way off reference, unless you like fake juiced up Colors(deceiving in my opinion)
*software won’t be as good as the C1
*lacklustre built quality
*Picture quality still doesn’t surpass OLED
*No Dolby vision
*Filmaker mode locks certain settings out so can’t be calibrated easily.

I would buy the C1 for R20k and never look back. But you already know this.

 

[Mr Smooth]

@epah brilliant write up.
You’ve convinced me to buy another C1.

 

[FoxFire675]

People who want and can afford the best, can afford to plan correctly.

At around 500 nits, the C1 is more than bright enough for the vast majority of rooms and viewing conditions, and is therefore a non issue for the most part.

If one has an exceptionally bright room and watches the majority of the time during the day at its brightest, then go QLED, but sacrifice picture quality and all other OLED benefits during dimmer lighting.

500 nits? Are you referring to peak brightness of a small portion of the screen or sustained full screen brightness? There is a big difference between the 2 so you should clarify what you say when you mention the C1 is 500 nits.

If one is watching F1 or Rugby/Soccer that its being broadcast during the day, are you saying the screen will be constant at 500 nits? The overall picture brightness will be lowered to prevent over-driving of the panel and excessive heat which will degrade the pixels and panel lifespan. Oled can do small highlights very bright for a few seconds and that number is what many people quote which is very misleading.. Overall screen brightness for OLED's (non QD and EVO) is relatively low.

 

[capd]

500 nits? Are you referring to peak brightness of a small portion of the screen or sustained full screen brightness? There is a big difference between the 2 so you should clarify what you say when you mention the C1 is 500 nits.

If one is watching F1 or Rugby/Soccer that its being broadcast during the day, are you saying the screen will be constant at 500 nits? The overall picture brightness will be lowered to prevent over-driving of the panel and excessive heat which will degrade the pixels and panel lifespan. Oled can do small highlights very bright for a few seconds and that number is what many people quote which is very misleading.. Overall screen brightness for OLED's (non QD and EVO) is relatively low.

500 nits at 10%.

Motion handling and fluidity when watching rugby or F1 is far more important to me than brightness. OLED is much better than Q/LED in every respect, and brightness is really a non issue for the vast majority of people.

I run my QLED and OLEDs on Movie/Cinema mode anyway, even my QLED in a large and sunny room.

For those who value brightness over picture quality… By all means get a Q/LED. Take it a step further and run it on Store mode!

 

[FoxFire675]

500 nits at 10%.

How is this "more than bright enough for the vast majority of rooms and viewing conditions"? You want people to turn off 90% of their screen and watch on the remaining 10% to get that brightness.

Motion handling and fluidity when watching rugby or F1 is far more important to me than brightness. OLED is much better than Q/LED in every respect, and brightness is really a non issue for the vast majority of people.

Makes sense, rather battle to see what's on the screen because the picture isnt bright enough but at least the content is smooth? On that note, the monition handling on the QN90A I has was brilliant. It looked better than my OLED. Oled has a better pixel response time. Doesnt automatically mean its better at motion. Are you speaking on behalf of the vast majority of people about the brightness being a non issue or just from your own preference?

For those who value brightness over picture quality… By all means get a Q/LED. Take it a step further and run it on Store mode!

The high-end LCD's have very good picture quality. They only get beaten in a dark room. Its not like we're comparing a 2010 LCD to a current OLED.

I feel the majority of advise given here is given on a bias basis with OLED being the best and nothing else considered. QD-OLED is superior to OLED in every way. Why is no one saying save your money and wait for that? Why is no one saying wait and get a C2 because that is actually a noticeable improving for WRGB OLED panel technology? But hey, how people spend their money is non of my business. I can only provide honest feedback based on what I have purchased/owned and experienced.

 

[Heisenborg]

I have two c1 tvs. One in a bright lounge and one in the darker bedroom for night time

They both look great. Bright room is a non issue