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It's coming to that time of the year.

Shortlist: Van der Sar, Vidic, Ferdinand, Giggs, Ronaldo, Gerrard

Seriously, it's a farce this year. The mind boggles.

Did the FA let Ferguson give a shortlist?

WTF has Giggs done, 1 goal so far for the season and has only played in half the games this season. Rio???

I would only accept Vidic for obvious reasons, Ronaldo for the goals he has scored and Van der Sar because there is always a keeper that is shortlisted. The other two can shove it.

Anyway who do you think will win it (the season's not over yet)?

edit: oh I forgot to say who I think will win it. Vidic. He has been brilliant for the entire season so far (except for the Liverpool game) and consistent and fully deserves it in my opinion.
 
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So many flaws in your argument. It would be great if you could keep your biased nature out of the discussion.
 
WoW, look at all the United players.

A few months ago, i would say Vidic but im leaning towards Gerrard at this moment.
 
Gerrard shove it?He's done more for Liverpool than VDS or Ferdinand have done for manyoo this season.
 
theratman said:
Gerrard shove it?He's done more for Liverpool than VDS or Ferdinand have done for manyoo this season.
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But at this rate, Liverpool aren't in line to win anything so it's all for nothing really. United are still in line for the (dare I say it :p) quintuple which is why Vidic or VDS have a better chance of winning it.
 
Stickfigure said:
But at this rate, Liverpool aren't in line to win anything so it's all for nothing really. United are still in line for the (dare I say it :p) quintuple which is why Vidic or VDS have a better chance of winning it.
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What a bollocks list. VDS & Vidic are the only two who should be there in my opinion. I really fail to see what Ferdinand has done to deserve being there... I have never rated him as a player and never will. Ronaldo only picked up from the middle of the season and Gerrard - well... it's a double edged sword tbh - The team can perform without him, because Monsterano and Speedy Gon-Torres are becoming ever more important. Not that he doesn't have an impact, but you can;t say that he alone s the savior of Liverpool.

I really don't know hey, this season has been a poor one as far as my watching games is concerned. Only seen Chelsea maybe like 20 games and Manchester about that much as well (a smattering of others doesn't really count)...

How about Agbonglahor? How about Young?

Pool, I agree 100% with you. seeing as I haven't watched any pool matches - I won't comment on Gerrard being on the list, just about his role as savior of Liverpool.
 
smokey said:
What a bollocks list. VDS & Vidic are the only two who should be there in my opinion. I really fail to see what Ferdinand has done to deserve being there... I have never rated him as a player and never will. Ronaldo only picked up from the middle of the season and Gerrard - well... it's a double edged sword tbh - The team can perform without him, because Monsterano and Speedy Gon-Torres are becoming ever more important. Not that he doesn't have an impact, but you can;t say that he alone s the savior of Liverpool.

I really don't know hey, this season has been a poor one as far as my watching games is concerned. Only seen Chelsea maybe like 20 games and Manchester about that much as well (a smattering of others doesn't really count)...

How about Agbonglahor? How about Young?

Pool, I agree 100% with you. seeing as I haven't watched any pool matches - I won't comment on Gerrard being on the list, just about his role as savior of Liverpool.
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It's a complete farce. It's the PFA awards for the entire premiership and 5 out of the 6 players are from one club.

I have a particular problem with Giggs being on that list. Maybe I'm deluded but surely Lampard for example has played better and contributed more this season.
 
Look - I can see how people are raving about how he has rejuvenated his career by playing in midfield - but he's not exactly Pirlo, now is he?

Utter bollocks.
 
Ok, I've calmed down a bit now. I think I was wrong (not entirely) in my reaction to the list. I didn't see that it's the PFA Players' Player of the year. The vote was taken in February 2009 which was when Man U was on a run of 10+ game winning streak and it was when Man U were clear favourites on top of the log.

That means that it's not the FA who are deluded, it's the players themselves.;)
Probably lots of Man United supporters amongst them.

Still Giggs, Giggs....:confused:
 
As i said already - I could understand Giggs in someway - but FERDINAND? He's atrocious...
 
Haha. I must agree I was amazed by the list as well.

I'd say Vidic should be on there and Gerrard. Then Lampard for sure (he has carried Chelski this season). Then perhaps some standout palyers from the smaller, less fashionable teams like Stoke and West Ham.

I would not have any other United players on the list, though. Giggs, Ronaldo?! You're havin a laugh.
 
When I wrote a piece bemoaning the fact that Ryan Giggs was being touted as a possible PFA Player of the Year award winner - based purely on sentiment rather than consistency of performance - the ignorant amongst you pointed out that awards were not handed out in February, so this evidently silly woman was jumping the gun somewhat.

Of course, the reality is that PFA voting does take place in February and March, with the nation's professional footballers asked for their choice of the season's best player with up to three months of the campaign still to play. That explains why David Ginola won the gong in the season United won the Treble and why five of six nominees (for 'nominees', read top six in the voting) for this year's award play for a United side currently unconvincing and porous.

United could still prove to be the best and most successful team of 08/09, but to argue that five of the six most impressive players in the Premier League this season play for the Old Trafford side is plain ridiculous. Where's Frank Lampard? Where's Xabi Alonso? We'd ask where Phil Jagielka or Brede Hangeland are but we know better about the intelligence of footballers.

As it is, the list of nominees looks like one put together by a group of six-year-olds in Manchester asked to name their favourite player.

Giggs is clearly a vote for sentiment, but voting for a keeper who has barely made a memorable save all season tells you all you need to know about the attention span of footballers - they cast their vote at a time when VDS was all over the newspapers as the clean sheet record-breaking goalkeeper. Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic deserve any accolades they receive, but it's barely even conceivable that Ronaldo could win a third consecutive award despite a season of stroppery and precious little else.

We cannot expect footballers to think outside the box - or even understand the phrase - but they should at least be given every chance of making a more informed decision on an award that is held in such high esteem.

Will Giggs or Ronaldo or whoever not feel slightly daft looking at a picture of themselves holding up a Player of the Year award in late April if Liverpool go on to to win the Premier League with a raft of goals from Fernando Torres, or Chelsea win the Champions League thanks to a series of dominating performances from Frank Lampard?

As it is, the award should be renamed the PFA Player Who Was In The News In February/March.

Sarah Winterburn
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http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,13320_5187353,00.html

Nuff said
 
*pats henry on the head*
*clap**clap**clap*

post of the day goes to you!
 
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