Photo Comps

FaSMaN said:
Finally you posted something I could agree with his pictures should have been in the top 10
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Look back in this very same thread... And by the by, I didn't see a single photo that didn't make it because of hardware limitations. I only saw many photos that wouldn't have made it because they were genuinely poor photos or because the people that took them neglected to polish them.

I invite you to post links to some of the photos you feel were 'hardware limited' here. I'll process them how I would, clean them up, and we see how the results compare.
 
FaSMaN said:
@nanonyous you keep on moving the goal post about the argument, just now it was "phone users had the same chance of winning" now its "Phone users should not have spent that much money on phones and should have gotten a DSLR instead" , these arguments are polar opposites, please choose one and stick with it.

As for complaining I am not, just defending that the better camera a person has the better pictures they can potentially take, skill can only get you that far in photography, hardware limitations do exist.

If I really wanted to kick up a fuss I would complain that 5 of the users got away with using a width of 800 that is quite a bit larger that the 600 requested for the competition.
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The reason most go away with that is because people where posting images the size of 5000x5000, then there was a rule made
hence around 600px width
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so that people can easily see the pictures and not eat up their data. I think 800x is still fine and I think most will agree
 
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@nanonyous Not being sarcastic didnt know what you meant until you edited your post, will take you up on the offer on one condition, dont touch the levels, and you use only freely available software, just to make it fair.
 
FaSMaN said:
@nanonyous Not being sarcastic didnt know what you meant until you edited your post, will take you up on the offer on one condition, dont touch the levels, and you use only freely available software, just to make it fair.
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Clarify on what you mean by 'levels', and why not.
 
dtba said:
The reason most go away with that is because people where posting images the size of 5000x5000, then there was a rule made so that people can easily see the pictures and not eat up there data. I think 800x is still fine and I think most will agree
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From the competition thread:

Important: Please re-size your photos to fit in a post (hence around 600px width)
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Rules are rules I am afraid.
 
nanonyous said:
Clarify on what you mean by 'levels', and why not.
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Heavy changes to a photo that changes its category it was originally entered in with to "Photo Manipulation", as in normal club rules allowed for editing photos.
 
FaSMaN said:
Heavy changes to a photo that changes its category it was originally entered in with to "Photo Manipulation", as in normal club rules allowed for editing photos.
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Right, now clarify on 'club rules', because if a 'photography club' denies me the ability to do anything I could do during print making, that's not a club I want to be a part of. If I wanted to be limited to purely what came out of the camera every single time, I'd say a competition like this would have had to be limited exclusively to photos taken with exactly the same model of Polaroid camera using exactly the same instant film scanned by exactly the same scanner using exactly the same settings saved by exactly the same program with exactly the same settings with absolutely zero changes being made from the point where the shutter was released to where it arrives on our screens.

It simply doesn't make sense. I covered this multiple times in this thread as well.
 
ClintZA said:
I suppose that does depend on your monitor size and your forum settings ;)
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Forum actually has a fixed width so resolution should matter unless your going lower than 1024x768

nanonyous said:
Right, now clarify on 'club rules', because if a 'photography club' denies me the ability to do anything I could do during print making, that's not a club I want to be a part of. If I wanted to be limited to purely what came out of the camera every single time, I'd say a competition like this would have had to be limited exclusively to photos taken with exactly the same model of Polaroid camera using exactly the same instant film scanned by exactly the same scanner using exactly the same settings saved by exactly the same program with exactly the same settings with absolutely zero changes being made from the point where the shutter was released to where it arrives on our screens.

It simply doesn't make sense. I covered this multiple times in this thread as well.
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Its pretty simple, the person posting the picture might have posted it as "Photo Journalism" and might not consent to his picture being changed to "Photo Manipulation" both of these have different rules a person has to adhere to when entering it into a professional competition.

Edit: Anyway I am off home, so will only be at a PC again at about 8...
 
FaSMaN said:
Forum actually has a fixed width so resolution should matter unless your going lower than 1024x768
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I was under the impression you could choose between fixed width and full screen under settings.
 
FaSMaN said:
Forum actually has a fixed width so resolution should matter unless your going lower than 1024x768



Its pretty simple, the person posting the picture might have posted it as "Photo Journalism" and might not consent to his picture being changed to "Photo Manipulation" both of these have different rules a person has to adhere to when entering it into a professional competition.
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Photojournalistic photos are still 100% reliant on the film used, processing used, any physical implements such as filters used and the final print-making in film terms, and the same applies for digital camera users.

Ignoring that though, in other words, if they posted their image with the intention of it representing 'real life' with as few changes as possible, where any, made to the existing light in the scene, I'm not supposed to be making any changes to those and not supposed to be editing anything in/out that is at all crucial to keeping the photo 'pure', right?

Those photos, in the context of the photographer, their wishes and their 'chances', would almost not matter in the context of 'cleaning up' and 'processing'. They're standing purely on merit of what their subject matter is (about). If that doesn't do it for them, nothing is likely to.

For an analogy, this would be like someone that has a racecar that can compete at the track at home, that they are highly skilled in driving, but they instead chose to come in their 60s Beetle and expected people to 'respect' them more because they didn't use what was available to them or were trying to keep things 'pure'.
 
Important: Please re-size your photos to fit in a post (hence around 600px width)
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So would it be wrong of me to post this photo
upload.jpg
100x1000
If it fits in my post?
 
Nokia-N8-1.jpg
canon-550D-1.jpg

more images for the n8 vs canon 550D
 
This second one is a bit misleading since the light has changed considerably between the two shots. It's quite apparent that in general, though, the quality between them is somewhat comparable. This ends up being a matter of how well one can control the N8 vs the 550D and, obviously, the fact that one can put an external flash onto the 550D and higher quality lenses, but doing that is going to cost you even more than the camera body alone did already, and just a 75-300mm on-brand can cost as much as the N8 did...

If it weren't for the N8 using one of those Nokia OSs I'd have considered getting it as a phone at this point. I'm in need of a tablet or smartphone I can use to control my camera for because reasons... unfortunately doing so is limited to Android right now :l
 
bwana said:
Actually, the 1Dmk3, 1Dsmk3, and 1Dmk4 are rated to 300,000 and the new 1Dx 400,000. The 5Dmk2 and 3 are both rated to 150,000 but the first gen only to 100,000.
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Forgot to address this - didn't mean to imply that no current Canon cameras had shutters rated to over 250k shots, just Canon cameras up till that model.

Also, free thread bump.
 
So what is happening with the Canon photo competition? Are they going to announce the winner? Its been a pretty strange competition overall. I presume that there will be a winner announcement thread in the Photography section?
 
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