Ping Speeds: Difference between shaped and unshaped

Orvor

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Hi All,

This is my first post, I hope this is in the right category, as its about ping speeds relevant to gaming, but the gaming category seemed to be more about games themselves. This post concerns latency with ADSL connections. Anyway, I wanted to test the difference in ping speeds between a shaped account (which I unfortunateley have through Mweb), and an unshaped account (Vanilla kindly offered my a 100mb demo account for testing purposes). My current account is a 3gb shaped adsl package on a 384 kbps circuit.

Here's what I did:
I ping tested a series of local and international ip's before moving onto to actual gaming servers. These were my results:

International IP's:
75.126.40.135
ping (unshaped) - min 759 max 1002. ping (shaped) min 388 max 392

64.233.183.147
ping (unshaped) - min 224 max 272. ping (shaped) min 471 max 474

69.147.114.210
ping (unshaped) - min 305 max 340. ping (shaped) min 386 max 438

209.3.224.24
ping (unshaped) - min 389 max 406. ping (shaped) min 348 max 359

So unshaped faster on 2 and shaped faster on the other 2. Ok?

Then I moved on to test actual ping speeds once I had connected to 5 gaming servers. The game I used to test was GRAW (Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter). I tested 2 Local and 3 international servers. Unforunately I could not get the servers IP addresses as some gaming clans do not give this information. A further look on their websites proved unfruitful. My reasoning was that if gaming ports are unshaped, this would yield far more meaningful results than the simple ping test above. Here are the details:

GRAW Server name Shaped Unshaped IP Address
SGS Coop (SA) 38 50 196.4.79.65
SGS HH (SA) 43 41 196.4.79.20
British Paras(UK) 360 300 ?
BDA (US) 406 380 ?
AVG Virginia (US) 423 344 ?

I must admit for the local servers the results are completely unconvincing. The international server ping times on unshaped were better, but my question is: Is the saving in time good enough to warrant me moving from a shaped service to an unshaped service (The average time saving in milliseconds across the 3 international servers is 55 = miniscule?) The costs are significantly higher, and will it make THAT much difference to my gaming performance? As it is, a ping speed on an unshaped service of 300 is unacceptably high when you're playing against some guy in the states with a ping of 30. It looks to me like I would rather stay on my shaped service, as the decreased cost outweighs the benefit of an average of 55ms.

I would like advice please. My testing is rudimentary, and I have only has adsl for a month, so I could be considered a Newbie.

Regards,
Orvor.
 
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Welcome to MyADSL!

I don't know much about this, but I do know that the US is very far away. This will always be a problem.
 
It looks to me like I would rather stay on my unshaped service, as the decreased cost outweighs the benefit of an average of 55ms.

You mean stay with shaped :p

Honestly thanks for the post on results and such. I have never had the opportunity to test an unshaped account myself, and from what I gather according to your results it is definately not worth the extra buck.

I have been wondering exactly the same thing...myadsl community..some input would be very welcome :D I say unshaped is a waste of time especially for gaming, am I wrong??
 
Have done many tests with shaped vs unshaped over the last few years, since unshaped was introduced - check here for an example

Some general comments:

- shaped and unshaped are completely identical for local servers
- not all unshaped accounts are the same (unfortunately, SAIX based accounts are faster)
- Vanilla unshaped is Verizon based, not SAIX, and therefore slower than SAIX unshaped
- although it's possible to get sub 200ms pings to Europe and the USA, a good unshaped account will generally ping in the 250ms range to most international destinations
- Web Africa offers a great SAIX-based pre-paid unshaped service for those times when you really need good unshaped access (R125 pm)
 
wow eu servers
shaped 900ms - 2000ms (IS)
unshaped 190ms-400ms (saix)

in that regard trust me makes a moerse differance....
 
I have seen comments made here that for certain games it makes a big difference, whereas for others not much
 
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