Battle of the pings - SAIX unshaped still best

Have been experimenting with a few unshaped accounts for Xbox Live, and have found SAIX unshaped to offer some blistering speeds to the U.K. Depends on the server though, but on a few traces I am getting sub 200ms pings, which is what we really should be getting to most of Europe and east coast USA:

Tracing route to cassiopeia.konami-europe.net [212.162.2.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms dsl-146-4-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.4.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms wblv-ip-lir-1-ge-0-0-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.11.194]
5 161 ms 160 ms 161 ms lon-ip-dir-telecity-pos-5-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.50]
6 160 ms 160 ms 160 ms ge9-16.br02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.13.13]
7 176 ms 175 ms 175 ms ae-1-0.edge1.fra3.de.inetbone.net [80.81.192.200]
8 182 ms 182 ms 183 ms ge-1-0.edge1.ham1.de.inetbone.net [213.203.213.66]
9 182 ms 182 ms 183 ms gw.hh.corpex-net.de [213.203.255.94]
10 187 ms 186 ms 185 ms srv1.konami-europe.com [212.162.2.65]

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms dsl-146-4-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.4.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms wblv-ip-lir-1-ge-0-0-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.11.194]
5 160 ms 160 ms 160 ms lon-ip-dir-telecity-pos-5-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.50]
6 162 ms 166 ms 161 ms 83.245.126.93
7 161 ms 161 ms 160 ms 212.58.238.153
8 161 ms 161 ms 161 ms 212.58.238.36
9 163 ms 161 ms 161 ms pos6-0.rt1.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.254]
10 163 ms 162 ms 162 ms virtual0.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]

Above account is via Web-Africa pre-paid, but should be the same for all SAIX-based accounts.


Tracing the same destinations using Verizon unshaped:

Tracing route to cassiopeia.konami-europe.net [212.162.2.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 33 ms 30 ms 30 ms atm4-0-0sub106.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.7.196.21]
3 30 ms 30 ms 32 ms pos8-1-0.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.121.157]
4 329 ms 38 ms 239 ms fe4-1-0.cr1.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.33]
5 207 ms 208 ms 225 ms other-side.s10-1-1.cr2.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.229.233]
6 206 ms 204 ms 210 ms at0-1-0.ir1.lnd19.alter.net [196.30.229.130]
7 205 ms 210 ms 206 ms so-3-0-1.IH2.LND9.ALTER.NET [146.188.3.49]
8 207 ms 206 ms 207 ms so-2-0-2.TR1.LND9.ALTER.NET [146.188.2.45]
9 206 ms 205 ms 207 ms POS1-0.BR1.LND9.ALTER.NET [146.188.7.242]
10 250 ms 236 ms 232 ms so-7-0-2.core2.London1.Level3.net [146.188.68.210]
11 210 ms 208 ms 225 ms ae-0-56.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.162]
12 228 ms 245 ms 230 ms as-0-0.mp1.Hamburg1.Level3.net [4.68.128.34]
13 248 ms 222 ms 245 ms ge-4-2.hsa1.Hamburg1.Level3.net [195.122.140.195]
14 242 ms 242 ms 248 ms ge-3-0.edge1.ham1.de.inetbone.net [212.162.48.132]
15 243 ms 261 ms 250 ms gw.hh.corpex-net.de [213.203.255.94]
16 230 ms 236 ms 233 ms srv1.konami-europe.com [212.162.2.65]


Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms atm4-0-0sub106.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.7.196.21]
3 30 ms 33 ms 30 ms pos8-1-0.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.121.157]
4 30 ms 31 ms 31 ms fe4-1-0.cr1.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.33]
5 208 ms 30 ms 30 ms srp5-0-0.cr5.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.9]
6 220 ms 209 ms 206 ms so0-0-0.ir1.lnd19.alter.net [196.30.229.182]
7 224 ms 225 ms 310 ms POS1-1.IH1.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.32.25]
8 333 ms 329 ms 332 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XT1.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.35.114]
9 315 ms 329 ms 329 ms POS1-1.IH1.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.32.25]
10 349 ms 351 ms 347 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XT1.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.35.114]
11 331 ms 319 ms 319 ms 204.255.168.14
12 342 ms 333 ms 318 ms sl-bb24-rly-13-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.188]
13 337 ms 334 ms 334 ms 204.255.168.14
14 318 ms 317 ms 326 ms sl-bb24-pen-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.144]
15 321 ms 331 ms 356 ms sl-bb20-rly-10-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.14.121]
16 337 ms 322 ms 349 ms sl-bb24-pen-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.144]
17 329 ms 323 ms 347 ms sl-bb27-pen-14-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.16.82]
18 351 ms 352 ms 340 ms sl-bbcte1-1-0.sprintlink.net [160.81.215.98]
19 352 ms 337 ms 337 ms sl-gw18-nyc-10-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.13.161]
20 359 ms 336 ms 357 ms sl-bbcte1-1-0.sprintlink.net [160.81.215.98]
21 337 ms 299 ms 338 ms sw0.chi.bbc.co.uk [212.58.255.154]
22 341 ms 352 ms 306 ms pos6-0.rt1.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.254]
23 321 ms 317 ms 306 ms virtual0.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]

SAIX-based accounts are generally pinging East Coast U.S. gaming servers in the 250-270ms range, while Verizon is in the 330-370ms range.

(Un)fortunately, SAIX-based unshaped accounts still offer the best all-round performance for international gaming, and other latency dependent apps.

Great info Syba.

It would also be useful to see some stats on in-game "pings" that utilise the IP protocol instead of ICMP. The reason is that sometimes even on unshaped the two procotols are routed differently.

I have two accounts at WebAfrica. One is shaped the other Unshaped. This is my ping results for a server in the UK. (i think)

I am also having trouble playing Call of Duty 4 Online as my ping rates are over 400.

I activated my prepaid WA account to improve my performance, but with no luck up until yet... The ping rate for the games actually went up although below shows a different story???

SHAPED
Pinging 78.136.49.213 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 78.136.49.213: bytes=32 time=350ms TTL=106
Reply from 78.136.49.213: bytes=32 time=368ms TTL=106
Reply from 78.136.49.213: bytes=32 time=358ms TTL=106
Reply from 78.136.49.213: bytes=32 time=353ms TTL=106

UNSHAPED
Pinging 78.136.49.213 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 78.136.49.213: bytes=32 time=207ms TTL=113
Reply from 78.136.49.213: bytes=32 time=206ms TTL=113
Reply from 78.136.49.213: bytes=32 time=207ms TTL=113
Reply from 78.136.49.213: bytes=32 time=207ms TTL=113

have you tried the verizon option WA offers (just add .v after your login)

Solution

Hi

Found that the best place to go is just to play locally.

Best is to search for saix game services, better known as sgs and then just add the IP address of the server you want to join.

My ping rates are now between 50ms - 90ms.

You can even play on 3G or iBurst with the same ping rates.

:\ only problem not too many people play and theres alot of Sh*ty admins on SGS, they need to get more decent admins
also who the f says no swearing on game servers, i mean really you need to be above a certain age to play css and cod4 i think its 16, and i mean ytf cant i swear, thats y some people also enjoy int servers


PS oh ye there are also alot of noobs that play online, so if you looking for decent gaming then go play overseas.

PSS, i reread and saw that its for XBoxLive and try find some1 else here that wants to play XBox Live online localy : \

Ludjer said:

:\ only problem not too many people play and theres alot of Sh*ty admins on SGS, they need to get more decent admins
also who the f says no swearing on game servers, i mean really you need to be above a certain age to play css and cod4 i think its 16, and i mean ytf cant i swear, thats y some people also enjoy int servers


PS oh ye there are also alot of noobs that play online, so if you looking for decent gaming then go play overseas.

PSS, i reread and saw that its for XBoxLive and try find some1 else here that wants to play XBox Live online localy : \

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I think the "no swearing" thing comes in where they expect you to be mature enough to not resort to swearing, etc. Obviously some aren't and they instituted this rule.

Also, epic bumpage for a dead thread. =P