Pirates demand R33m for SA hostages

Elimentals said:
You are aware that there is even kidnapping for random in SA?

It does not make head line news all the time but is known to happen esp when people leave casino's and airports.
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Lots of them appear to get traced & the culprits arrested. And the cases appear to involve the Chinese, people from the rest of Africa and it's obvious they are kidnapped by people known to them here & there. And the idiots who fall for 419 scams.
 
R13... said:
The families of those kidnapped will obviously disagree. The pirates will have to then starting killing a few hostages to get their message across. It's a lose-lose situation. Somalia is the only one who can resolve this, a proper functioning government with working security.
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I would be crazy upset if it was my family as well but the more you pay the more they kidnap, so more and more families will lose out. At some point you need to stop it and the only way is too ignore their payment requests. Most people don't have access to 2-5 million anyhow.

Sadly unless the people kidnapped are from the US they won't go rescue anyone and i doubt we have many people capable of mounting a rescue.

It would be bloody awesome to put a team together and start a somalia rescue business. The somali government cannot do anything, they are bloody useless.
 
killadoob said:
It would be bloody awesome to put a team together and start a somalia rescue business. The somali government cannot do anything, they are bloody useless.
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For R33 mil you could pay 33 people a million each and I doubt you will have any problems getting qualified volunteers either.
 
Elimentals said:
For R33 mil you could pay 33 people a million each and I doubt you will have any problems getting qualified volunteers either.
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Trouble is the families cannot afford 33 million so the rates would need to be much lower, perhaps 20-100k a head or something like that. Some people do have money but most people do not have 1 million in their bank accounts.

Mercenary swat team i would imagine would run you up a fairly large bill, not 33 million but perhaps 8 9 million. Heck i would put a team together for that amount and go give it a bash :D.
 
killadoob said:
Trouble is the families cannot afford 33 million so the rates would need to be much lower, perhaps 20-100k a head or something like that. Some people do have money but most people do not have 1 million in their bank accounts.

Mercenary swat team i would imagine would run you up a fairly large bill, not 33 million but perhaps 8 9 million. Heck i would put a team together for that amount and go give it a bash :D.
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I know but the reason I used that figure is because that is what the random is at.
 
With rescue attempts you have tom accept the real chance your loved one is only retrieved in a body bag. The pirates will be keeping their prized hostages in places hard to penetrate without getting spotted early.
 
R13... said:
With rescue attempts you have tom accept the real chance your loved one is only retrieved in a body bag. The pirates will be keeping their prized hostages in places hard to penetrate without getting spotted early.
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So pay, get the people back safely, then mercilessly slaughter the lot and recover the suitcase full of money.
 
Elimentals said:
For R33 mil you could pay 33 people a million each and I doubt you will have any problems getting qualified volunteers either.
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Pay me R 15 Million and I'll arrange for a squad of highly qualified people to do it. They can just all put in leave for 3 weeks and go get them back.
 
TJ99 said:
So pay, get the people back safely, then mercilessly slaughter the lot and recover the suitcase full of money.
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I like that idea, Pay ransom and give the mercenaries full access to drop info telling them they can keep what they recover.
 
TJ99 said:
So pay, get the people back safely, then mercilessly slaughter the lot and recover the suitcase full of money.
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This. Even if the money isn't recovered but happens to buy time/lead 'em to the pirates and the pirates are slaughtered regardless, the outcome is the same.

Something tells me these people are on their own.
 
Elimentals said:
I like that idea, Pay ransom and give the mercenaries full access to drop info telling them they can keep what they recover.
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The pirates seem to have accounted for that with the very elaborate ransom drops that normally go with this. Parachuted moneys being one way apparently.
 
Billy said:
If no one pays, sure a few people will be killed, but the piracy will stop if there is no profit.

By paying a ransom that family is happy but has put hundreds of others at risk.
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So, take one for the team, eh? Who's going to be first? I don't think there are that many people willing to put the interests of others ahead of their own, very personal and very emotional interests...

Juice
 
Billy said:
Surely by paying ransoms and blackmail you are aiding and abetting a crime.

I see little difference between paying a ransom or a bribe.

If no one paid there would be no profit.

R33M could do more good in SA than encouraging thugs to kidnap people.
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So what do you suggest? we let them die? so as to not encourage these prawns?
 
For every ransom they pay 50 more pirate bandits are born.
Paying them compounds the problem.
I say we nuke the bastards from orbit and lament the collateral damage.
 
Juice said:
It is (or should be) government policy to never pay a ransom, otherwise they'd be setting a precedent and we'll be paying constantly. That's what K&R insurance is for. Sure, it's expensive, but if you're going somewhere unsafe, then it's worth the money, wouldn't you say? Admittedly, no-one would expect Somalian pirates as far south as Tanzania, but it's not that far south and they have been known to come down as far as Mozambique.

I'm not unsympathetic, but one of the reasons this is so rife in the area is that it is obviously a working business model. People are paying and so the game continues. If this were my loved ones, I'd be trying to raise the money to free them as well.

Juice
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Well said Juice. We have to have our own Navy Seals for these situations. Pay the buggers, save the hostages then get back in there to take what's ours. I don't think the problem will go away if we ignore them. They'll keep taking chances with hopes of hitting the jackpot sooner or later
 
doobyscoo said:
Seen on a cardboard sign at the robots today : Brother kidnapped by pirates, need money for ransom. :p
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How exactly is this a joke? You should have heard the woman's daughter cry over the radio, maybe then you wouldn't crack jokes about this. Seriously, gtfo.
 
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