Plain cigarette packaging likely to snowball globally

I really don't think it will make one iota of difference to whether someone smokes or not .... or starts smoking or not ... or stops smoking for that matter
If anything the ban on tobacco advertising probably had the opposite effect to what was intended ... just the tobacco companies are now not blowing a whole lot of cash sponsoring sports events

I dunno about plain packaging or sponsoring sporting events, but the ban on them advertising on tv and at the movies I imagine helped quite a bit.

Do you remember those ads? They were fkn awesome.

Indiana Jones looking mother f**** lighting up after discovering a Mayan temple in the rain forest..
Hot girls and good times on a yacht somewhere tropical..
Fast cars, winning at the casino, skiing down a mountain..

They barely even mentioned the cigarettes.

So much better than real life, those ads.
And who doesn't love the Stuyversant theme tune?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIp1FE41tpE

I can see why those ads were banned. Those were propaganda techniques at their finest. I was a child then, and I'd always look forward to watching those adverts in the cinema before the movie. They were very pleasurable.
 
One of Australia's leading anti-smoking campaigners says a "snowball" effect is likely to result in plain packaging for cigarettes being introduced in a number of new countries over the next decade, after tobacco company Philip Morris lost a court case challenging Australia's strict packaging laws.

The Singapore-based Permanent Court of Arbitration declined on jurisdictional grounds to allow the company's case to proceed against the Australian government's plain packaging laws, which were passed in 2011 to curb smoking rates.

Under the Australian laws, the first of their kind, no branding is allowed on cigarette packages and retailers must store tobacco products behind blank screens or cabinets. In addition, cigarette packages in Australia also show large graphic warnings of the possible health effects of smoking.

Public Health Association of Australia spokesman Mike Daube, who chaired the government committee which recommended plain packaging, said the Singapore court's decision was a major blow to "Big Tobacco".

"People who work in tobacco talk about the scream test - the louder the tobacco industry screams the more you know you are on the right track," he said.

"The tobacco industry's campaign against plain packaging in Australia is more ferocious than anything I have seen in the 40 years I have been working in this area.

"They have fought it in the media, they have fought it in parliament, they have fought it in the courts - and they have lost all of the way through."

Daube told Al Jazeera that he expected to see the success of Australia's policy - which researchers say has led to a reduction in smoking rates and the volume of tobacco sold - cause a "snowball effect", encouraging other nations to implement similar laws.

Plain tobacco packaging is currently being introduced in the UK and Ireland, while a number of other countries are also considering legislative changes.

"Australia is showing that you can beat Big Tobacco," Daube said.

"What we are now seeing, and this often happens in public health, is that once one country successfully implements change, other countries follow. There is a leapfrog effect.

"It's going to be tough, because the industry is desperate for new markets, but I think we will see plain packaging in many more countries over the next decade."

Tobacco companies say plain packaging laws breach international regulations for trademarks and, along with the case in Singapore, the Australian government is also still facing challenges within the World Trade Organisation.

Philip Morris' International senior vice president and general counsel Marc Firestone said in a statement on Friday that it was "regrettable that the [Singapore court] outcome hinged entirely on a procedural issue".

"There is nothing in today's outcome that addresses, let alone validates, plain packaging in Australia or anywhere else," he said, adding that the company was considering further legal options.

But Australia's Rural Health Minister Fiona Nash, who is in charge of the government's smoking policies, said in a statement on Friday that "plain packaging...is consistent with Australia's international legal obligations".

"We welcome the unanimous decision by the tribunal agreeing with Australia's position that it has no jurisdiction to hear Philip Morris' claim," she said.

"Smoking does untold harm to Australians, causing deaths from cancer, lung and heart disease, and hurting families."

Source

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/...kaging-snowball-globally-151218044928763.html

only if smokers were empathetic to non smokers, I wouldn't have a problem with cigarettes.
 
I doubt anyone took up smoking because of the marketing.

That's the only reason.

Smoking was portrayed in the media on the big screen etc.

It's just marketing, you can't use something you don't know exist.
 
I doubt anyone took up smoking because of the marketing.

Specific areas we researched include

The relationship between cigarette marketing and identifiable adolescent needs,
such as peer acceptance, rebelliousness, risk taking, and stress relief

The impact of cigarette marketing on adolescents’ self-images and their
perceptions of smokers

The effects of exposure to cigarette marketing on adolescent smoking

The relationship between tobacco marketing expenditures and tobacco
consumption in the general population, including time-series and cross-sectional
studies, as well as studies of the impact of advertising bans on consumption
and use


Numerous studies find a strong connection among advertising exposure, adolescent
initiation to tobacco use, and progression to regular tobacco use.
 
Specific areas we researched include

The relationship between cigarette marketing and identifiable adolescent needs,
such as peer acceptance, rebelliousness, risk taking, and stress relief

The impact of cigarette marketing on adolescents’ self-images and their
perceptions of smokers

The effects of exposure to cigarette marketing on adolescent smoking

The relationship between tobacco marketing expenditures and tobacco
consumption in the general population, including time-series and cross-sectional
studies, as well as studies of the impact of advertising bans on consumption
and use


Numerous studies find a strong connection among advertising exposure, adolescent
initiation to tobacco use, and progression to regular tobacco use.

I've never seen a cigarette ad on TV or heard about it on radio. Peer pressure is a big one I'd say, most smokers I know started in school.
 
I was in the shop down the road buying cigarettes today , while waiting there was a guy buying stuff and at the end he had R10, he asked the shopkeeper if he had any cigarettes for R10 , to my surprise the shopkeeper hauled a pack from under the counter and gave it to the guy .
At the end of the day plain packaging or what ever crap the the anti-smoking lobby can think of is not going to work and the more they try the more people are going to smoke , this is human nature .
If i want to smoke i will smoke, fark the anti-smoking campaigners and the horse they rode in on .
 
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