Plasma comparison

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Yes, yes... I know... Don't say it...

If anyone has one of these sets, please could you provide some comments:

Samsung PS50C430
Samsung PS50C450
Samsung PS50C550

LG 50PJ250
LG 50PJ350

Specifically with regard to:

1) Whether or not you went through the whole break-in phase or not
2) Whether you're at altitude or not
3) Whether you get buzz or not

Seen a lot of good deals lately, particularly on the PS50C430 and 50PJ250... R7k is ridiculously cheap :)
 
Bought the ps50c430 a week ago at new world for R6999 and I honestly couldn't be happier. This tv is really fscking awesome and nothing (disclaimer: that i've seen and for the price) comes anywhere close to it (haven't seen the LG 50" plasma though).

I'm still in my break-in phase, no retention or burn in issues so far (I'm super careful though, using all the precautions, this is my baby). Even on low settings the quality is superb.

I'm at altitude (Pta) and I have no buzzing issues at all, slight noise when I press my ear close to the back of the tv ( < 30cm ? ). Maybe I'm just lucky?

Round-up:
SD media, awesome (unbelievable actually)
HD media, awesome.
Console gaming, awesome. (ps3)

Few cons: (doesn't bother me, but it might just influence your desicion):
USB does not play vids directly (Get the 450, media player or stream from the pc).
Only 2 HDMI inputs (450 has 3 or get AV receiver).
Only 720p (the difference is really minimal, and not worth the price, except if you want to use it as a pc monitor? ).

You're best bet would be to try them all out and make up your own mind, you won't be disappointed with the 50c430 for R6999 though.

Good luck!
 
PS50C430
1) No, I used the Monster calibration DVD to get optimal setting which left them quite low as I did it at night when the room was dark. So a kind of yes I guess.
2) At the coast, CPT
2) A little when I put my head next to the set but you can't watch like that;)
 
Yes, yes... I know... Don't say it...

;)

Sure you don't rather want a 40" LCD, priced roughly the same? :D

Do let us know what you think once you have one (plasma). :)

ricoza sounds spot on. I wouldn't be too bothered about having full HD but if you can afford it go with the C550. If you don't need FHD and would rather save a bit then I would recommend the C450 unless you already have a HD media player and HDMI AV receiver. My 2c.
 
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Sure you don't rather want a 40" LCD, priced roughly the same? :D

Do let us know what you think once you have one (plasma). :)

ricoza sounds spot on. I wouldn't be too bothered about having full HD but if you can afford it go with the C550. If you don't need FHD and would rather save a bit then I would recommend the C450 unless you already have a HD media player and HDMI AV receiver. My 2c.

Please refrain from going off topic... You LCD fanbois... :D

Seriously though, I've never had anything against plasma, don't know why you'd think I did? :confused:

Back on topic...

I'm in Pretoria, and buzz won't bother me if it's literally inaudible over the audio from the TV. What about that PS50C550? I recall someone (TVR perhaps?) saying that it's a bit of a hit and miss set. If so, I'd rather skip than miss.

I'm not PARTICULARLY bummed about 720p vs 1080p in this instance, since the times being used as a computer monitor will be slim. However, burn-in / IR would be a gigantic annoyance for me. But if breaking it in would make it a negligible concern, then it could be worth considering. Otherwise, the only other option would be the LA46C750 (oh snap, haha).
 
Please refrain from going off topic... You LCD fanbois... :D

Seriously though, I've never had anything against plasma, don't know why you'd think I did? :confused:

Don't know why you'd think I think you have anything against plasma? :confused:

:D

Perhaps a similar reason you said this?

Yes, yes... I know... Don't say it...

:D

Back on topic...

I'm in Pretoria, and buzz won't bother me if it's literally inaudible over the audio from the TV. What about that PS50C550? I recall someone (TVR perhaps?) saying that it's a bit of a hit and miss set. If so, I'd rather skip than miss.

I'm not PARTICULARLY bummed about 720p vs 1080p in this instance, since the times being used as a computer monitor will be slim. However, burn-in / IR would be a gigantic annoyance for me. But if breaking it in would make it a negligible concern, then it could be worth considering. Otherwise, the only other option would be the LA46C750 (oh snap, haha).

Seriously, I'm quite perturbed as to how people go on about plasma buzz. Admittedly, I haven't heard any plasmas at altitude, so perhaps I am in the wrong here. But out of all plasma buyers in recent months, maybe 5% have complained about buzz? I can only put this down to either a bad set (which will get swapped as in Grim's case and I think randomwelsh), or excessive pedantry. Again, seriously, based on my own plasma's buzz, I cannot understand how it could be so much worse at altitude that one could hear it from viewing distance with the sound off. Sorry for going a bit off topic, but any discussion to help me get my head around this would be appreciated.

The PS50C550 is a fantastic TV, the only downfall is slight jaggering in panning shots. So if you watch a lot of, say, nature documentaries (mainly panning shots), then the PS50C550 isn't for you. For all other applications it is 100%. I would probably still recommend the PS50C450 even if you have a higher budget, based on the fact that the C4xx series are the tried, tested, trusted plasma's with no shortcomings to my knowledge.

Burn-in will not be a problem unless you work on the PC with the plasma excessively. You will most likely get image retention (seems "worse" on the 50"ers than 42"ers?) after 1.5 hours+ of displaying high contrast images/logo's etc.. Really though, IR shouldn't concern you as it's gone within seconds of changing channels/sources. Also, IR is more likely when plasma is in a brighter room where one would have to run it at increased brightness. In my case I've never had one bit of IR, probably due to me being able to run it at lower brightness because the room it's in isn't too bright in the day.

Oh, and according to Samsung, break-in period is a thing of the past. I would still suggest you run at half brightness for the first ±100 hours though.
 
Don't know why you'd think I think you have anything against plasma? :confused:

:D

Perhaps a similar reason you said this?



:D



Seriously, I'm quite perturbed as to how people go on about plasma buzz. Admittedly, I haven't heard any plasmas at altitude, so perhaps I am in the wrong here. But out of all plasma buyers in recent months, maybe 5% have complained about buzz? I can only put this down to either a bad set (which will get swapped as in Grim's case and I think randomwelsh), or excessive pedantry. Again, seriously, based on my own plasma's buzz, I cannot understand how it could be so much worse at altitude that one could hear it from viewing distance with the sound off. Sorry for going a bit off topic, but any discussion to help me get my head around this would be appreciated.

The PS50C550 is a fantastic TV, the only downfall is slight jaggering in panning shots. So if you watch a lot of, say, nature documentaries (mainly panning shots), then the PS50C550 isn't for you. For all other applications it is 100%. I would probably still recommend the PS50C450 even if you have a higher budget, based on the fact that the C4xx series are the tried, tested, trusted plasma's with no shortcomings to my knowledge.

Burn-in will not be a problem unless you work on the PC with the plasma excessively. You will most likely get image retention (seems "worse" on the 50"ers than 42"ers?) after 1.5 hours+ of displaying high contrast images/logo's etc.. Really though, IR shouldn't concern you as it's gone within seconds of changing channels/sources. Also, IR is more likely when plasma is in a brighter room where one would have to run it at increased brightness. In my case I've never had one bit of IR, probably due to me being able to run it at lower brightness because the room it's in isn't too bright in the day.

Oh, and according to Samsung, break-in period is a thing of the past. I would still suggest you run at half brightness for the first ±100 hours though.

The "dont say it" was meant more along the lines of "don't talk about plasma's superiority over all other technologies"... i.e. rather just give me reviews on these sets. I'm not pro- or anti-plasma. Nor am I pro- or anti-LCD. As with all things, each has their place, and I'm happiest when people realise this.

As I said, if the buzz is inaudible over the audio playing from the TV's speakers, that's great. Even better if it's inaudible over the home theatre speakers. Oh and of course, if the buzzing isn't hurting the TV :)

The room where the TV will sit will have a mixture of light levels. Curtains closed, it's very dark. Curtains open, it's very light. Personally, I'd rather have the curtains closed most of the time, but the missus would have a fit. So it needs to be viewed in "average" lighting conditions (how vague, I know...).
 
Well can't speak for the 50" but I bought the 42" C430 yesterday and it rocks socks, if I listen behind the tv there is a small buzz (I am at altitude) but does not interefere at all when watching. I have it set on movie mode for the first bit to be safe and set the pixel shift on.
 
The "dont say it" was meant more along the lines of "don't talk about plasma's superiority over all other technologies"...

You sure about that? I think it's because your posts aren't as fence sitting as you think they are - definitely tend to be more on the LCD side. :p

Buzzing is a slight buzz you hear up close or at the back of the unit - normal buzz cannot possibly ever be able to drown out volume. Volume on like level 1 will drown out the buzz. :D

Anyway, for the budget you've talked about (R8,000 - R10,000) then plasma's definitely the way. Entry LCD is a waste of time.

Good luck! ;)
 
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