Please give me a value for a second hand Apple Mac G5

Lol! Are you going to order a new keyboard from Amazon or elsewhere?

The Apple Parts channel here in SA is pretty good. We use a company designated by Apple to do parts called Microtech. If there is a item we cannot get it generally takes them 7 - 10 days to get it for us. We've even managed to get AZERTY keyboards for MB and MBP's for some of our French customers! :-D
 
Cybermoo said:
Lol! Are you going to order a new keyboard from Amazon or elsewhere?

The Apple Parts channel here in SA is pretty good. We use a company designated by Apple to do parts called Microtech. If there is a item we cannot get it generally takes them 7 - 10 days to get it for us. We've even managed to get AZERTY keyboards for MB and MBP's for some of our French customers! :-D
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I havent decided yet - I'm not in too much of a hurry. The hdd is a bit more urgent as my aperture library is threatening to overrun the computer.
 
hehe... Well Apple don't have any specific Hdd that they use. So the preference is left up to you, Western Digital, Seagate etc... If you still want the Sudden Motion Detection to work tho you will need to get a drive that supports it. They tend to be a bit more pricey.

The only real difference that I can find out between the drives that Apple uses and the standard PC ones is that Apple gets the "Cream of the Crop" at the manufacturing of the drives. So even tho you are getting a Seagate or Hitatchi its the best of the best regarding Performance etc... On the desktops I think they call this "Server Spec Drives"
 
Cybermoo said:
hehe... Well Apple don't have any specific Hdd that they use. So the preference is left up to you, Western Digital, Seagate etc... If you still want the Sudden Motion Detection to work tho you will need to get a drive that supports it. They tend to be a bit more pricey.
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From what I understand most recent drives should be ok with Apples Sudden Motion Detection but I have heard about people having problems with Apples SMD which they claimed was because their replacement drives also had it onboard.
 
Cybermoo said:
Koffiejunkie, That particular Mac Mini that you have can only take 1GB's of PC3200 DDR400Mhz memory.
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Forgive my scepticism, but Apple also told me my entry-level MacBook can only take 2GB memory (it's running happily with 4GB) and that the DVD-ROM/CDRW is not replaceable (I replaced it a few nights ago with the same LG drive they use in the MBP).

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The Logic Board does not have the ability to read ECC/registered memory.
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OK, I'll take your word for that.

Cybermoo said:
I see the Mac Mini to be an Administrative machine that does, word, excel, email etc.. never really thought of using it as a Design machine at all. How does Photoshop run? Can you do pretty hectic work on it or are you constrained to doing smaller things?
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I'm a pretty basic Photoshop user. Most of what I do is mess about with the channel mixer and cutting/pasting to combine images for logos/banners etc. If you have any suggestions for benchmarking some of the more heavy lifting, I can compare it to my MacBook just for kicks.

Cybermoo said:
The Windows machine popped up an error and quite Photoshop whilst the Mac continued crunching through numbers for another 10 Minutes +-
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I had a housemate who was a graphic designer and was still using a G4 tower. It was a 500MHz with 768MB RAM. She was feeling the pressure in terms of performance and needed to get something faster, but was under financial strain and had an option on a regular PC laptop for a very good price. She was opposed to this idea but wanted to see what to expect either ways. At the time I had a Turion64 1.8GHz with 1mb cache and 2GB RAM. She does, amongst other things, billboard adds so she works with pretty huge files - sometimes over 1GB). We did a few basic tests - resize, flip/inverse, cut/copy&paste, convert to B&W and the HP murdered the Mac in these. But then she pulled out a recorded action that sounds more like the one you described. The HP crashed and burned and the Mac (running OS9, btw) happily crunched along until it was done.


Cybermoo said:
The Apple Parts channel here in SA
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How do I get in contact with the UK one? The Apple shops wants to take my MacBook for 5 days just to tell me what's wrong (I know what's wrong, the palm rest is cracked). Why can't they just order the part and fit it on site? It takes only a few minutes.

bwana said:
From what I understand most recent drives should be ok with Apples Sudden Motion Detection but I have heard about people having problems with Apples SMD which they claimed was because their replacement drives also had it onboard.
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I thought it used the sensor in the drive? I decided to play it safe and just buy a drive from the same model series as the one my MacBook came with.
 
koffiejunkie said:
Forgive my scepticism, but Apple also told me my entry-level MacBook can only take 2GB memory (it's running happily with 4GB) and that the DVD-ROM/CDRW is not replaceable (I replaced it a few nights ago with the same LG drive they use in the MBP).
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I upgraded my MBP with 2x 2gb chips and even though it recognises 4gb it only seems to utilise three (as promised).

koffiejunkie said:
I thought it used the sensor in the drive? I decided to play it safe and just buy a drive from the same model series as the one my MacBook came with.
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Its a sensor in the computer itself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_Motion_Sensor
 
HenryJ said:
That's less than R2000 :eek:

What were its specs?
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800mhz G4 640mb RAM 30 gig HD OSX.4.9

It was a decent little thing... but remember the price of computers is less in USA than SA. I suppose I could have gotten more if I sold it there. Oh well...

:rolleyes:
 
bwana said:
I upgraded my MBP with 2x 2gb chips and even though it recognises 4gb it only seems to utilise three (as promised).
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That's something to do with the chipset - we had a huge discussion about this at work, I'll look up the details tomorrow. Basically the chipset before Santa Rosa (I think) see but cannot make all the memory available. Santa Rosa (I think) gives you all 4GB.
 
koffiejunkie said:
That's something to do with the chipset - we had a huge discussion about this at work, I'll look up the details tomorrow. Basically the chipset before Santa Rosa (I think) see but cannot make all the memory available. Santa Rosa (I think) gives you all 4GB.
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I know - I didnt know your MB had the santa rosa chip though. :)
 
koffiejunkie said:
It's the first one that does :)
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So it's still under warranty? Why risk the DVD transplantation and voiding it? I've waited until now to upgrade my hdd for that very reason.
 
If it's just the Palm rest that is cracked then we can order in the Top Casing for you without the need for checking the notebook first. All we would need is the serial number of the machine so we can query it on GSX (Global Service Exchange) Which is Apple's Serial database. We would want to do this to make sure we order in the right top casing for your machine. There are quite a few variants of Macbooks out there...
 
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So it's still under warranty? Why risk the DVD transplantation and voiding it?
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Let's just say I can be impulsive. And being told that the palm rest is cracked because I rest my palms on it, and that it would take five days to determine that, uhm, it's cracked, just makes me lose my patience... If I end up voiding my warranty, then that's just that. I'll wait until I sell the MacBook, I'll have the new top fitted, and just pay the price if I have to. It should boost the resale value if the top is nice and clean - mine's mostly brown :) The crack is right along the edge, about a mm from the edge, and it broke off on one side and pointed upwards - kept hooking my sleeve and scratching my palm. So I just tore it off completely. Now it doesn't bother me at all.




Cybermoo said:
If it's just the Palm rest that is cracked then we can order in the Top Casing for you without the need for checking the notebook first. All we would need is the serial number of the machine so we can query it on GSX (Global Service Exchange) Which is Apple's Serial database. We would want to do this to make sure we order in the right top casing for your machine. There are quite a few variants of Macbooks out there...
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I've phoned them already with the serial number, I even have a case reference. Now I just need someone to agree that they can do it in less than 5 days. I'll phone again on Monday.
 
koffiejunkie said:
Let's just say I can be impulsive. And being told that the palm rest is cracked because I rest my palms on it, and that it would take five days to determine that, uhm, it's cracked, just makes me lose my patience... If I end up voiding my warranty, then that's just that. I'll wait until I sell the MacBook, I'll have the new top fitted, and just pay the price if I have to. It should boost the resale value if the top is nice and clean - mine's mostly brown :) The crack is right along the edge, about a mm from the edge, and it broke off on one side and pointed upwards - kept hooking my sleeve and scratching my palm. So I just tore it off completely. Now it doesn't bother me at all.

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Get yourself some of these for the future. http://www.mrclean.com/sites/en_US/mrclean/products/eraser.shtml
 
Usually the memory gets installed at the bottom of the Mac between the speakers, but your revision the G5 you have to remove the whole Back of the iMac off. It's actually quite a difficult job...
 
Cybermoo, I've only ever met a Apple retailer employee that are as clued up as you. You didn't by any chance work at the store in Brooklyn Mall in Pretoria a couple of years back?
 
Thanks for the compliment KoffieJunkie, well actually I was a PC technician for a number of years and eventually moved off to become I.T. Manager of a small PC Sales company. My 'ol man once told me that you should not make your Hobby your Job because you will end up hating your hobby, trues bob it happened. I would get home from work and not want to even look at my PC, didnt want to play games etc...

So thats when I decided to move off to Sales and what better to start off with something new, Apple. So you can say I'm an Apple Sales Rep with one heck of an IT background.

It's both a curse and a blessing when it comes to sales, :) Sometimes I overbear the customer with to much detail... :p

To answer your question no I was not at Brooklyn Mall. :)
 
Aah, I see. If you're looking for a good Apple tech, there was a guy named Wim at that particular shop (Simply Mac maybe?). He was the tech but on a busy Saturday morning he was helping out on the sales floor. Having been in IT for a good 15 years and reading everything IT related I could find (not so much any more though), I can be brutal to even the most clued up sales people. But I simply could not out-question this guy - he knew everything! I ended up chatting to him all morning because it's the first time ever that a sales person could keep telling me stuff I didn't know. And I guess he didn't mind because he wasn't getting the usual mundane questions. :)
 
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