please help - Exchange server, POP

[deca300]

Hi there, I hope I didn’t post this in the wrong category..

My question is.. Usually I would set people up for mail like this
-create email accounts on cpanel...
-then configure their outlook with the details to retrieve their mail, works fine.

My issue is now I'm busy working on building an exchange test server to play around on first. But how do the accounts now work? Don’t I need the pop accounts on the domain anymore? Because I think it works like this, I host the mailboxes on exchange not on the pop cpanel...?

I hope this makes sense..
Please any help Much Appreciated.

 

[darkguyv3r]

Hey Man

There is a couple of ways to do it. A lot will also depend on how your exchange is setup. If your exchange is directly on the internet you can setup your MX records to point straight to it and it will receive your mail. If its on a adsl line (that does not have a static address) i would suggest replying mail through your provider as most companies block mail from mail servers on dynamic IP's.

Just to play around with i would say make your accounts on the cpanel and pop them to the exchange server. Gives you room to play with exchange. There really is a lot you can do with it. If you are using sbs it has a pop connector built in. If you are using standard or enterprise you can use a free pop connector like this one http://redmine.corelan.be/projects/pvepop3collector

If you have the time and a public static ip you can go the mx record route. For this make sure to install some av and anti spam so you can filter your mail. Also make sure to check that it does not act as an open relay else you might find your IP getting black listed very quickly.

 

[deca300]

hey man thanks fro the reply
its cool, but can I host the mail boxes all just inside exchange without pop on cpanel?

 

[w1z4rd]

hey man thanks fro the reply
its cool, but can I host the mail boxes all just inside exchange without pop on cpanel?

Do you have a dedicated IP?
Do you have power and server redundancy?

Problem with onsite hosting is when the mail server goes down.... its not happy days and you have to have a dedicated IP. You are also going to need relay servers to pass the mail onto your mail server (though you might be able to do this on exchange... not sure with it).

 

[bekdik]

With an Exchange server, your mailboxes will live in Exchange.

Users should be able to access them via OWA (Outlook Web Access) by going to https://<exchangeserver url>/exchange where <exchangeserver url> = IP or URL of your exchange server.

They will then login with their individual user name & password

 

[deca300]

yes, good server I'd say. And I have a dedicated IP.. Okay this is for a company with like 75 users. What would be the best, fastest and safest option be with exchange??

 

[ramar]

yes, good server I'd say. And I have a dedicated IP.. Okay this is for a company with like 75 users. What would be the best, fastest and safest option be with exchange??

Get someone in who knows what they are doing to set it up.

 

[Telasera]

Hi there, I hope I didn’t post this in the wrong category..

My question is.. Usually I would set people up for mail like this
-create email accounts on cpanel...
-then configure their outlook with the details to retrieve their mail, works fine.

My issue is now I'm busy working on building an exchange test server to play around on first. But how do the accounts now work? Don’t I need the pop accounts on the domain anymore? Because I think it works like this, I host the mailboxes on exchange not on the pop cpanel...?

I hope this makes sense..
Please any help Much Appreciated.

Hi Deca300,

As many others have said there are a few ways to setup your exchange environment either using static MX records of having a provider host the MX records and relay the email to your exchange server. It depends on your load and overall design. If you are looking to setup a test server as a demo site this could be done using a VPS or any virtual platform. Please PM me if you require any further infomation.

 

[DominionZA]

Take the simple road.
www.outlook.com

Register your domain as a custom domain. Setup the MX records (shows you how), give a few minutes for your custom domain to be verified, then add your users.
Hook outlook up using ActiveSync. Profit...

And free!

I had my own Exchange Server. Then went to Google Apps for many years, and last week started migrating everything to www.outlook.com. Happy chappy.

 

[warwickw]

Take the simple road.
www.outlook.com

Register your domain as a custom domain. Setup the MX records (shows you how), give a few minutes for your custom domain to be verified, then add your users.

I don't see a link to signup with a custom domain at outlook.com

Edit: found it on another page http://domains.live.com/

 

[DominionZA]

I don't see a link to signup with a custom domain at outlook.com

Edit: found it on another page http://domains.live.com/

Soz man. I posted just before going to sleep and did not feel like confirming the domains link (read lazy ). Glad you got sorted.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Take the simple road.
www.outlook.com

Register your domain as a custom domain. Setup the MX records (shows you how), give a few minutes for your custom domain to be verified, then add your users.
Hook outlook up using ActiveSync. Profit...



And free!

I had my own Exchange Server. Then went to Google Apps for many years, and last week started migrating everything to www.outlook.com. Happy chappy.

Back in 2010 one of my clients wanted to move their mail over to Hotmail, I initially disagreed, but their IT team pushed so we had to get it done.

Within the first day we had hiccups, Outlook Connector problems, frequent CAPTCHA’s, general bulk mailing problems and few others. All of these problems had solutions at the time, but the client lost a serious amount of production and did not want to risk losing any more. I moved the mail back in the third day to Google Apps for Business and everything went on until this day with no problems.

Now are any of these problems still with Outlook.com? How “free” it is really and what are the limitations, before I even start doing any research…

I would like to move one of my minor companies over to Outlook.com and see how it goes, but since you so enthusiastic about this service, could you enlighten me before I risk crucial time.

I have read your previous post:

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/506670-Goodbye-Hotmail-welcome-Outlook-com

Your custom domain description of Outlook.com really resembles Hotmail.com

I would really like to know what is different this time around.

 

[DominionZA]

Back in 2010 one of my clients wanted to move their mail over to Hotmail, I initially disagreed, but their IT team pushed so we had to get it done.

Within the first day we had hiccups, Outlook Connector problems, frequent CAPTCHA’s, general bulk mailing problems and few others. All of these problems had solutions at the time, but the client lost a serious amount of production and did not want to risk losing any more. I moved the mail back in the third day to Google Apps for Business and everything went on until this day with no problems.

Now are any of these problems still with Outlook.com? How “free” it is really and what are the limitations, before I even start doing any research…

I would like to move one of my minor companies over to Outlook.com and see how it goes, but since you so enthusiastic about this service, could you enlighten me before I risk crucial time.

I went from MS Exchange to GApps and skipped the whole Hotmail etc.. route for the reasons you mentioned. Also never had issues with GApps.

I was concerned moving over to outlook.com but after much reading I felt happy that it was not just an update to Hotmail. It is a complete replacement.

I have been using it since late last week and so far very happy.

Only things that concerned me...
No IMAP support - yet. So migration from Gapps Gmail account to outlook.com cannot be done using the standard IMAP migration techniques. I say yet because it will be available sometime - might even be already.
To migrate my email from Gapps to outlook, I setup both accounts in Outlook 2010 and simply copy pasted my emails and contacts from one account to the other and left activesync to do it's thing. You cannot copy/paste like this in 2013 though and no Gapps activesync support in 2013.
No aliases - yet - with custom domains. Not too stressed about this, but it is apparently coming too.

MS going to give Google a run for their money me thinks. Google dropping support for EAS in Jan was the crunch for me. As a Premium Gapps user EAS is still supported, but only up to Outlook 2010. If you are a free Gapps user, no more EAS, and if you use Outlook 2013, no EAS (Google are 2 versions behind so not compatible).

Considering I am a MS developer, I use MS Office and Outlook, migrating from Gapps to outlook.com was a no brainer. Stability been good for nearly a week so I am happy.

 

[Fulcrum29]

I went from MS Exchange to GApps and skipped the whole Hotmail etc.. route for the reasons you mentioned. Also never had issues with GApps.

I was concerned moving over to outlook.com but after much reading I felt happy that it was not just an update to Hotmail. It is a complete replacement.

I have been using it since late last week and so far very happy.

Only things that concerned me...
No IMAP support - yet. So migration from Gapps Gmail account to outlook.com cannot be done using the standard IMAP migration techniques. I say yet because it will be available sometime - might even be already.
To migrate my email from Gapps to outlook, I setup both accounts in Outlook 2010 and simply copy pasted my emails and contacts from one account to the other and left activesync to do it's thing. You cannot copy/paste like this in 2013 though and no Gapps activesync support in 2013.
No aliases - yet - with custom domains. Not too stressed about this, but it is apparently coming too.

MS going to give Google a run for their money me thinks. Google dropping support for EAS in Jan was the crunch for me. As a Premium Gapps user EAS is still supported, but only up to Outlook 2010. If you are a free Gapps user, no more EAS, and if you use Outlook 2013, no EAS (Google are 2 versions behind so not compatible).

Considering I am a MS developer, I use MS Office and Outlook, migrating from Gapps to outlook.com was a no brainer. Stability been good for nearly a week so I am happy.

Thanks Mike,

Your input is appreciated, I will try it out.

I will also draw up a comparison, but I will most likely make the move next month to test Outlook.com in a live/productive environment.

 

[Ipwn 4]

Hi there, I hope I didn’t post this in the wrong category..

My question is.. Usually I would set people up for mail like this
-create email accounts on cpanel...
-then configure their outlook with the details to retrieve their mail, works fine.

My issue is now I'm busy working on building an exchange test server to play around on first. But how do the accounts now work? Don’t I need the pop accounts on the domain anymore? Because I think it works like this, I host the mailboxes on exchange not on the pop cpanel...?

I hope this makes sense..
Please any help Much Appreciated.

Don't forget about hosted exchange, also a really simple solution you can resell to the client and not have to worry about anything. Think it will cost around R100 per User per month for an unlimited mailbox depending on which SP you use.

Exchange itself is a beast, no offense but based on the question you asked in the OP I wouldn't recommend you take on the setup and support of a 75 user exchange. It is one seriously involved system.