Please. Thank You.

Voicy said:
Men and women are equal in terms of rights and respect...they are in no way equal in physical form. Denying this is denying what they are.

If a feminist wants me to see her as an equal in every possible way, then she first has to hold her own in a fist fight. Why they see it as an insult when you treat them like ladies is beyond me...
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Amen.
 
Voicy said:
Chivalry is dying due to this.

I always hold the door / wait for women to walk through before me in public. More often than not they'll walk through and completely ignore me. I then always say out loud "you're welcome!", causing them to either walk off quickly or make some snide remark. I've even once had a woman push me from behind because I was waiting for other women to walk through a door once.

I don't do it to impress anyone, it's just how I was taught...and oddly enough, the one-out-of-50 times that a woman DOES thank me, it makes up for all the other times.
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I do too, in case there is danger on the other side;)
 
Voicy said:
If a feminist wants me to see her as an equal in every possible way, then she first has to hold her own in a fist fight. Why they see it as an insult when you treat them like ladies is beyond me...
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I got raised to say thank you and please and if you don't like me opening the door for you that is your problem. You can claim in as loud a voice as you like that you can do it yourself and see who people think is the bigger ass.

Speaking of that though when was the last time you opened the car door for your wife/girlfriend? Especially in winter that one counts for a lot! :D
 
The whole equality issue has always amused me.

Yes, I'm perfectly capable of opening doors, but I love it (and thank them) when someone holds the door for me (though I never assume someone will). I've held my share of doors as well, especially for someone who's older or carrying something.

Also, I don't automatically see not holding a door for me as rudeness; sometimes it's like Lupus said, a culture thing, or you can see someone's so deep in thought they don't even realise you're there.

There's however no excuse for adults not saying please/thank you - it should be drilled so deeply into your subconscious that you should even automatically say it if you're practically asleep. :)
 
While at the work "restaurant" I notice plenty of people not saying please and thank you to the staff, I mean come on I know it's their job but you can still be courteous it won't kill you.
 
Lupus said:
While at the work "restaurant" I notice plenty of people not saying please and thank you to the staff, I mean come on I know it's their job but you can still be courteous it won't kill you.
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That's a very general assumption... I'm courteous to everyone - from the CEO to the cleaning staff.
Why not do as I do when I witness something like that and ask the person why they don't greet/thank the staff?
 
How often does one hear shoppers utter a thank you at supermarkets fruit and veg weigh-in or the delicatessen?
It’s generally a case of ‘Give me 250g of whatever’…..place in trolley and walk off. A little appreciation goes a LONG way.
Sad that life is so hectically paced and we’re so caught up in ourselves that simple politeness has become lost somewhere.

Kudus to those doing the car door thing….especially in winter!
 
A Non Blonde said:
How often does one hear shoppers utter a thank you at supermarkets fruit and veg weigh-in or the delicatessen?
It’s generally a case of ‘Give me 250g of whatever’…..place in trolley and walk off. A little appreciation goes a LONG way.
Sad that life is so hectically paced and we’re so caught up in ourselves that simple politeness has become lost somewhere.

Kudus to those doing the car door thing….especially in winter!
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It boggles my mind that people can be that way. How can you just order someone about without thanking them? :sick:
 
Rahl said:
I got raised to say thank you and please and if you don't like me opening the door for you that is your problem. You can claim in as loud a voice as you like that you can do it yourself and see who people think is the bigger ass.

Speaking of that though when was the last time you opened the car door for your wife/girlfriend? Especially in winter that one counts for a lot! :D
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Every single time...even for my mom.

Thing is though, I never did it to impress...and it has to be natural / practical. It defeats the entire point if you actually create an awkward moment by being impractical about it. It's 2nd nature to me and I'm very casual about it. I do appreciate that they thank me for doing so, rather than expect me to.

I hardly ever open it for them when they get out since it is a bit impractical if I'm still in the car, but I will often close it for them depending on the situation.

I suck at most other things though, so I have a lot to catch up to.
 
copacetic said:
For me, just treating folk in those positions as people, as opposed to automatons, as I am sure many do, elicits the warmest of responses from 90% of the individuals I deal with.

When I ask them how they are, I mean it, as I am sure they probably hate sitting there and would appreciate at least a genuine acknowledgement of their situation.

Which brings me to the point that politeness has to be genuine, not just a show you put on for forms sake. I think most of us are pretty attuned to falseness, and nothing irritates me more personally than a plastic smile.
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That grates me so much when I see people doing it.

I cannot fathom treating another person as if they aren't really there, or are just there to fulfill your requirement. I cringe when I see people at supermarket cashiers, talking on their cell phone all the way from the queue to walking off with their bags, with zero acknowledgment to the person serving them.
 
Also, is it so bloody hard to gesture thank you when someone gives you way in traffic?
 
copacetic said:
I think most of us are pretty attuned to falseness, and nothing irritates me more personally than a plastic smile.
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God I hate that, rather don't bother. The smile you actually see in their eyes, not the mouth movement.

Anyway, nice thread. Good to know there are still many like minded people out there when it comes to manners & respect.
 
A Non Blonde said:
We were brought up to stand up when an adult (usually visitors) enters the room - anyone still raising their kids this way?
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tau1z said:
nope, i certainly wouldnt...that seems a little hectic
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You stand up to greet someone. Whether I'm sitting in a garden chair, on a bar stool or around a table I stand up to greet a person entering/approaching.
 
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