Possible new pc specs - comments?

[Angellus]

Make no mistake it will not be gathering dust....and if you know how SLI works you wouuld'nt have said that. Fair enough the CPU is not ideal, but it will do it's job for now. 7800GTX is double what 7800GT costs. So if I could choose 2x7800GT or 1x7800GTX. Now that's a real no brainer 2x7800GT wins every time. Upgrading the processor will be much less of a hassle later on. I think thisgeek made an excellent choice. Later on he can pop in a duel core 4000+ or something like that for much cheaper while the 7800GTX will remain at a premium for several months.

Once fururemark05 returns that luvly score your gona know you made the right choice thisgeek
And 6 months from now when the 6800GT looks old and outdated, your going to be glad you chose the 7800GT

When the 6800GT is "outdated" the 7800GT will be as well, they have very similar performance. The 7800 series is not a huge jump over the 6800 series. The 6800 series was a massive jump over the 5900's. Well if you want to use Synthetic Benchmarks to measure performance then that is your choice I guess. I prefer to use real world apps/games. The Difference between the 6800Ultra and 7800GT is very small in Doom III, FEAR, Far Cry and Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory. My 6800GT runs higher than Ultra speeds. As I said before the 7800 is a tweaked 6800, no new features.

For the pricetehh 7800GT is a great card but I still think SLI is a bit of a waste. But hey if you can spend it then by all means enjoy.

[EDIT] Links to show the similar performance of the 6800Ultra and the 7800GT

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7800-gt_16.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7800-gt_10.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7800-gt_9.html

Xbitlabs regarding performance in Far Cry

On the “Research” level the situation is more obvious for high-end graphics cards: the GeForce 7800 GT is faster than the RADEON X850 XT PE and the GeForce 6800 Ultra, but the difference in performance is not significant.

 

[P0tenc]

So how much is the 7800GT and how much is the 6800GT? I got my 6800GT a while back for R2500. I wouldn't buy now, ATI is about to launch the R520 and Nvidia should respond so I would rather wait a while.

Ok first off.....ATI had production problems with their next gen card so their late to the market with it(unavailable as of yet). While the 7800 has been available for a while already. Nvidia might respond with a faster 7800 but the core should be the same only with a minimal increase in clock and core mhz if the new ATI threatens the 7800....which I doubt it will.

R 2,891.00 6800GT PCI-E
R 2,065.00 6800Gt AGP
about R3000 last time I checked 7800GT PCI-E

The prices seem to be dropping as new stock comes in.
I must appologise the 7800GTX is not double the 7800GT's price. I was mistaking it with the 6800ULTRA 512mb (R 6,468.00)
But 2x 7800GT's is still better than 1x7800GTX

 

[Luke7777]

As long as you stick to a single monitor, SLI is fine. Not to be considered if you think about multi-monitor gaming

 

[Angellus]

Ok first off.....ATI had production problems with their next gen card so their late to the market with it(unavailable as of yet). While the 7800 has been available for a while already. Nvidia might respond with a faster 7800 but the core should be the same only with a minimal increase in clock and core mhz if the new ATI threatens the 7800....which I doubt it will.

R 2,891.00 6800GT PCI-E
R 2,065.00 6800Gt AGP
about R3000 last time I checked 7800GT PCI-E

The prices seem to be dropping as new stock comes in.
I must appologise the 7800GTX is not double the 7800GT's price. I was mistaking it with the 6800ULTRA 512mb (R 6,468.00)
But 2x 7800GT's is still better than 1x7800GTX

True, but have a look at the links above. I think it shows that there is not much of a difference between the 6800Ultra and the 7800GT.

 

[gkm]

Make no mistake it will not be gathering dust....and if you know how SLI works you wouuld'nt have said that.

Thanks, I know how SLI works. I was using it as figure of speech.

@thisgeek: Yes, we are jealous.

 

[Angellus]

Thanks, I know how SLI works. I was using it as figure of speech.

@thisgeek: Yes, we are jealous.

Speak for yourself My 6800GT@457Mhz core and 1300Mhz Mem is BETTER THAN ALL

 

[P0tenc]

-=7800GT=-
24 pixel pipelines (16 in 6800GT)
302 million transistors (36% more than the GeForce 6800 Ultra)
0.11 micron process runs cooler (0.13 micron process for 6800)
8 vertex shader pipelines(6 in 6800GT)
Increasing Vertex Efficiency
Enhanced MADD Instructions Efficiency

Is the G70 based on the NV40 architecture? yes. And NVIDIA has made definite improvements on top of it.

I won't argue that it's ground bracking like the 6800 was compared to the 5900 but you can't ignore the obviously better card here. thisgeek seems to want cutting edge here so....he chose the 7800GT it's obviously better than the 6800 series. The 7800 is basically a tweaked reworked souped up 6800. So why go for the 6800? I myself own a 6800 but if I was in the market now.....I would get a 7800GT.

 

[Angellus]

-=7800GT=-
24 pixel pipelines (16 in 6800GT)
302 million transistors (36% more than the GeForce 6800 Ultra)
0.11 micron process runs cooler (0.13 micron process for 6800)
8 vertex shader pipelines(6 in 6800GT)
Increasing Vertex Efficiency
Enhanced MADD Instructions Efficiency

Is the G70 based on the NV40 architecture? yes. And NVIDIA has made definite improvements on top of it.

I won't argue that it's ground bracking like the 6800 was compared to the 5900 but you can't ignore the obviously better card here. thisgeek seems to want cutting edge here so....he chose the 7800GT it's obviously better than the 6800 series. The 7800 is basically a tweaked reworked souped up 6800. So why go for the 6800? I myself own a 6800 but if I was in the market now.....I would get a 7800GT.

I am not saying the 6800 is better merely that the gap is very small. If I had to buy now I would also buy the 7800 but I have a 6800 so I am set for a while. IMO it is pointless to go from one generation to the next unless there is a huge jump.

BTW I had no idea the 7800GT was that cheap. Are those prices including vat?

 

[Angellus]

-=7800GT=-
24 pixel pipelines (16 in 6800GT)
302 million transistors (36% more than the GeForce 6800 Ultra)
0.11 micron process runs cooler (0.13 micron process for 6800)
8 vertex shader pipelines(6 in 6800GT)
Increasing Vertex Efficiency
Enhanced MADD Instructions Efficiency

Actually those are the 7800GTX specs.

20 pixel pipelines (16 in 6800GT)
302 million transistors (36% more than the GeForce 6800 Ultra)
0.11 micron process runs cooler (0.13 micron process for 6800)
7 vertex shader pipelines(6 in 6800GT)
Increasing Vertex Efficiency
Enhanced MADD Instructions Efficiency

Here is the link.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7800-gt_2.html

 

[P0tenc]

Are those prices including vat?

nope

I also want SLI 7800GT's now

btw thisgeek.....you can always try o/cing your 3200+ they o/c good most of the time.my 3000+ running at +15% and my ram as well.

 

[Angellus]

OK what would you do if you had this option?
Nvidia Recommends 6800GT at $299(R1850) and the 7800GT at $449(R2780)

For those prices what would you choose?

 

[P0tenc]

Are those prices including vat?

nope.
Soz your right bout the 24/20 pipes and vertex shaders......I was woken up early this morning. I got no damn sleep But this brings up another question......will the 7800GT be able to unlock pipes. I'm thinking yes. There's prolly already a debate about this at www.guru3d.com in the forums. I'm just to damn lazzy to go read. I'm sooo tired. Need sleep, or I can go play wow, yes I think I will go play wow

I also want SLI 7800GT's now

btw thisgeek.....you can always try o/cing your 3200+ they o/c good most of the time.my 3000+ running at +15% and my ram as well.
My graphics card I had to mod the bios to pump some more volts into it since I got a vanilla 6800. original specs 325/700 oc to 375/820 I also managed to unlock one vertex shared. the pixel pipelines was a no go That's all I could get out of the old girl. She runs rock solid stable though.

 

[Angellus]

nope.
Soz your right bout the 24/20 pipes and vertex shaders......I was woken up early this morning. I got no damn sleep But this brings up another question......will the 7800GT be able to unlock pipes.

Hehe this is spooky, we have the same birthday and we both didn't get sleep last night. (I worked the whole night and still busy). We also like to argue our point

 

[P0tenc]

OK what would you do if you had this option?
Nvidia Recommends 6800GT at $299(R1850) and the 7800GT at $449(R2780)

For those prices what would you choose?

I always try go for the next gen. If money was an issue I can see ppl buying the 6800GT. But this is'nt the US or UK. Here they make us pay. Till we bleed....and then they make us pay some more. I need sustinance.

*Goes to see if there's something to eat*

 

[P0tenc]

Hehe this is spooky, we have the same birthday and we both didn't get sleep last night. (I worked the whole night and still busy). We also like to argue our point

LOL
Mayb your my evil twin stuck in my head......and I'm actually typing this to myself

 

[Angellus]

LOL
Mayb your my evil twin stuck in my head......and I'm actually typing this to myself

Evil yes Well I have to go finish my work because I have to present it at 17:00. Still have a mountain of work to do.

[EDIT] BTW I am your younger twin by about 4 years

 

[killadoob]

wow where you guys buying your cards for so cheap

 

[RVFmal]

wow where you guys buying your cards for so cheap

I would venture to say that most are dealers, or at least have friends who are.

 

[thisgeek]

nope

I also want SLI 7800GT's now

btw thisgeek.....you can always try o/cing your 3200+ they o/c good most of the time.my 3000+ running at +15% and my ram as well.

Well, I'm currently running a P4 2.6ghz with a vanilla 6800.

I'm not sure about the Athlon64's, but hopefully the 3200 should have better performance than what I have now -- which incidentally I'm quite happy with.

I'm not really into overclocking, I always feel dubious about my system's stability after mucking around with it, probably because I don't really know what I'm doing, and I couldn't be arsed to get extreme cooling.

 

[thisgeek]

wow where you guys buying your cards for so cheap

I know a few people who are dealers with various suppliers, and have no problem with supplying me with stuff at cost on the odd occasion.

I'm getting the Gigabyte 7800GT from rectron at a cost of R3500 ex vat each, so it means I'm paying R7980 for those 2 babies. The cost of these cards is 57% of the total cost of the equipment I'm getting, which includes mobo, ram & gaming chassis.