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Jam Sandwich
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Im a little worried. 19 OCTG + Stage 6 + LC 4. What's next? Higher LC?
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Stage 7. The rest is at max.
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They'll have to go to higher stages of LS. The solution is to of course recover their generation capacity, but seems that is no longer an option. They're banking on Kusile to add anything meaningful at this stage and that's only due end of the year and more likely next year.
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Technically if they could go to higher stages of LS they would've already, the problem is I think they've started noticing that higher stages of shedding on 20% of the grid isn't actually doing as much as possible anymore, plus times have changed with a lot more people with inverters and batteries.
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The reasons they're avoiding going higher are not technical.
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I honestly think it is, mainly as how much could you really shed from the smallest users of power? Remember even at night there is still 20GW being used, that isn't citizens or retail shopping centers. Industry is what is holding back load shedding as it still consumes 80% of power, even during load shedding they don't get shed as they have contracts, probably why some areas don't get shed, not because they are near hospitals, but some industry that is contracted to have power.
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What are the reasons?
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Not according to the below. See how industry is only 56% (2019). Service don't 24hours.
Electricity consumption South Africa by sector 2023| Statista
As of 2023, the industry sector was the leading electricity consumer in South Africa, with up to **** percent of the total consumption.
www.statista.com
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This is 2019 sadly and before load shedding was this bad, how much of this would be the same now considering residential is shed almost 12 hours a day.Not according to the below. See how industry is only 56% (2019). Service don't 24hours.
Electricity consumption South Africa by sector 2023| Statista
As of 2023, the industry sector was the leading electricity consumer in South Africa, with up to **** percent of the total consumption.
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According to the schedule some places IN JHB will have power from 10am to 2pm.
Buss might as well call it a day and sleep in
Buss might as well call it a day and sleep in
There have been a lot of units going down in the last few days, as usual they will be recovered. Why is the question, very likely mostly sabotage again. What they're doing about that is the answer, but for now that answer is.... little to nothing
So what other option is there, really?
33GW is a lot and we're not evening into winter yet.
In reality methinks they'll try going higher anyway even though it's not sensible. And their new schedules will try to disguise that.
Other theories out there say there's no disguise attempt, that they're going to publish info for stages 7 through 10.
Who knows... whatever.
Perhaps. Whatever apps, we're going to experience longer outages during a 24hr period, I think.
wingnut771
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I'm sure when they made the stage 8 schedule, they never expected to actually get to stage 8. Now that we are there, they have to make new higher stage schedules or else the grid fails when we get to stage 8 as there is nothing they can go to shed more as they are already shedding curtailment since stage 6.
Weirdly we got left alone last night. I guess I should say thanks for your sacrifice.. :-/
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33GW is once again that high due to load shift, in reality this would've probably been 30 to 31GW. In a normal 2 hour load shedding session your fridge probably won't need to switch on due to it losing cool air when the power comes back on, your geyser neither, but start pushing that to 4 hours with a 4 hour gap, you've got those coming on now to recover. Plus a lot more people have inverters then before, plus all the little batteries and vampires out there. 2GW could easily be lost due to that.
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