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Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
The most concerning thing is that we have been hovering around 24-25GW availability for probably 6 months or longer. It seems there is no plan or no skill to start fixing the downed units.
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True. We only have timelines for Koeberg Unit 1's return (July/August this year) and the three Kusile units (November 2023). Everything else is a mystery.
 
Brian_G said:
Depends. Do the anc really worry about next year's vote enough? Is there enough control over themselves in the party? Will they cave in enough with current pressures, or get shifty feet yet gain?
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They have mostly accepted the fact that they will lose enough votes to be below 50% but still retain power. It is the ANC way. Just keep lowering the bar (not sure there's even a bar anymore).
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
True. We only have timelines for Koeberg Unit 1's return (July/August this yeat) and the three Kusile units (November 2023). Everything else is a mystery.
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Considering unit 2 only came back in August last year, that isn't the issue, it's everything else that was probably sabotaged during the strikes.
 
R13... said:
There is a limit to how much you can keep shedding. They currently have a regime that tries not to completely **** the economy. Well, of course anything beyond LS 8 will mean the economy gets ****ed anyway. I have heard some of the plans Eskom has beyond stage 8 and it means some industry will have to put production on care and maintenance.
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Agreed. But doesn't mean they won't try higher stages, they're desperate and too often do stupid things.
 
R13... said:
They have mostly accepted the fact that they will lose enough votes to be below 50% but still retain power. It is the ANC way. Just keep lowering the bar (not sure there's even a bar anymore).
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Things could get worse for them enough to shift policy again.
 
Wonder what would happen if some of industry were convinced to rather operate at night? Could it help balance the load?
 
Brian_G said:
Wonder what would happen if some of industry were convinced to rather operate at night? Could it help balance the load?
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I could be wrong but I don't think it would change much, the load would just be shifted else where.
 
Brian_G said:
Wouldn't be surprised if bottlestores' hours become controlled again.
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Well they won't have power to stay open so makes sense... a lot of stores in my area close like yesterday my area had 3 hours power and most stores just never opened...
 
CrypticZA said:
Well they won't have power to stay open so makes sense... a lot of stores in my area close like yesterday my area had 3 hours power and most stores just never opened...
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I would do the same, my old buss required that we had to be there about 40min before opening time to get stuff heated up and ready. I see that area has power from 10 till 2pm, judging from that I'd have only 3hrs of actual work time.

I'd just tell my staff to come in another day and wait for a day with a better schedule
 
Lupus said:
33GW is once again that high due to load shift, in reality this would've probably been 30 to 31GW. In a normal 2 hour load shedding session your fridge probably won't need to switch on due to it losing cool air when the power comes back on, your geyser neither, but start pushing that to 4 hours with a 4 hour gap, you've got those coming on now to recover. Plus a lot more people have inverters then before, plus all the little batteries and vampires out there. 2GW could easily be lost due to that.
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I get that; but it's only going to get worse come winter. Let's say normal winter demand is 33GW - now we add 2GW for the load shift thing we are seeing... what's the plan around that?

Stage 6 + LC of Stage 4 won't cut it. So what option does Eskom have now?

I believe they'll have to go to higher stages, even on the diminishing returns
 
Priapus said:
I get that; but it's only going to get worse come winter. Let's say normal winter demand is 33GW - now we add 2GW for the load shift thing we are seeing... what's the plan around that?

Stage 6 + LC of Stage 4 won't cut it. So what option does Eskom have now?

I believe they'll have to go to higher stages, even on the diminishing returns
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and that's why they're pushing karpowership again
 
Priapus said:
I get that; but it's only going to get worse come winter. Let's say normal winter demand is 33GW - now we add 2GW for the load shift thing we are seeing... what's the plan around that?

Stage 6 + LC of Stage 4 won't cut it. So what option does Eskom have now?

I believe they'll have to go to higher stages, even on the diminishing returns
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Make cyril declare the entire winter period a public holiday, work only during the summer time
 
Brian_G said:
It couldn't change the total demand, yes, but perhaps it could alleviate the pressure and potential emergencies.
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So move spread load throughout the day to a total drain at night - won't help at all, will most likely make things worse.
 
Priapus said:
I get that; but it's only going to get worse come winter. Let's say normal winter demand is 33GW - now we add 2GW for the load shift thing we are seeing... what's the plan around that?

Stage 6 + LC of Stage 4 won't cut it. So what option does Eskom have now?

I believe they'll have to go to higher stages, even on the diminishing returns
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I think Cyril should create another task team and a kompak and have some more announcements, that helped last night.

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