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There is a solution, lockdown again until grid stablises, I mean hell are you telling me Loadshedding isn't more brutal then lockdowns.
 
Lupus said:
There is a solution, lockdown again until grid stablises, I mean hell are you telling me Loadshedding isn't more brutal then lockdowns.
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You need to declare an SoE or SoD for such things which last time was put under a lot of legal pressure. I doubt they'd get away with it, again.
You can't declare such things that are due to your own making - which is why SoD was shot down so quickly.
 
Priapus said:
You need to declare an SoE or SoD for such things which last time was put under a lot of legal pressure. I doubt they'd get away with it, again.
You can't declare such things that are due to your own making - which is why SoD was shot down so quickly.
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Well it is a disaster and the only way is to ship people home.
 
Priapus said:
You need to declare an SoE or SoD for such things which last time was put under a lot of legal pressure. I doubt they'd get away with it, again.
You can't declare such things that are due to your own making - which is why SoD was shot down so quickly.
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Post of the day
 
Lupus said:
Well it is a disaster and the only way is to ship people home.
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Not sure I understand that. If peeps are back home, industry suffers, so why not just turn off more industry?
Also, peeps at home still add to power there.
 
Brian_G said:
Not sure I understand that. If peeps are back home, industry suffers, so why not just turn off more industry?
Also, peeps at home still add to power there.
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Because then the economy collapses?
 
Brian_G said:
Wonder what would happen if some of industry were convinced to rather operate at night? Could it help balance the load?
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Mining and heavy industry operate 24/7 anyway. In fact, mining already conducts most of it's heavy lift operations at night.

It's only around the Christmas and Easter holidays they shut down completely.

Might have been a time when one would have been able to get the smaller factories onboard for something like that, but since Eskom is diverting all it's capacity into replenishing pumped storage at night now, I don't think it would make much of a difference.
 
Brian_G said:
Not sure I understand that. If peeps are back home, industry suffers, so why not just turn off more industry?
Also, peeps at home still add to power there.
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Actually people don't add that much during lockdowns we were sitting at 2GW less during hard lockdown it was 5GW less. Precisely if they don't want to shutdown industries and keep passing on higher stages, the only other way to stabilise the grid is to lockdown.
Industries need to start taking this pressure and if not they need to start actually pushing back to Eskom, the biggest problem in SA is that industries are compliant, they sit there and go we spend 650million on diesel, but they don't withold taxes or force government in anyway.
 
vaakseun said:
Mining and heavy industry operate 24/7 anyway. In fact, mining already conducts most of it's heavy lift operations at night.

It's only around the Christmas and Easter holidays they shut down completely.

Might have been a time when one would have been able to get the smaller factories onboard for something like that, but since Eskom is diverting all it's capacity into replenishing pumped storage at night now, I don't think it would make much of a difference.
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Except maybe in the earlier hours of the evening. Maybe
 
Lupus said:
Actually people don't add that much during lockdowns we were sitting at 2GW less during hard lockdown it was 5GW less. Precisely if they don't want to shutdown industries and keep passing on higher stages, the only other way to stabilise the grid is to lockdown.
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Let me rephrase - if we had a choice between having more stable power with anarchy, or not, which do you choose?

Lupus said:
Industries need to start taking this pressure and if not they need to start actually pushing back to Eskom, the biggest problem in SA is that industries are compliant, they sit there and go we spend 650million on diesel, but they don't withold taxes or force government in anyway.
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Agreed, but no pressure seems to be working enough so far.
 
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