Preadaptations

Phronesis said:
You have the function, you have read about, you know what it does, you know that dysregulation of the gene is associated with Crohn's disease, and you want to argue it is not crucial? Why don't you go to a lab and ask them to silence or delete the gene so that you can understand how crucial the gene is in immune-related autophagic processes ;).
Got any other bright arguments bright-spark?
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Any more goal posts to change?

You're truly pathetic today.
 
alloytoo said:
In principle for a Front loading entity to use an ERV insertion event to resurrect a dead gene like this is so astronomically far fetched, I'd rather believe it was done directly by the noodle of FSM.
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I'm thinking FSM in this case. All these long noodly Carbon chains point strongly to SLE - Spaghetti-Loaded-Evolution. What is a Carbon nanotube if not a noodle???
 
Uhm, you are arguing there is no scientific evidence for the existence of God. There is also no evidence to say materialism is true. Theism requires materialism to be false. Yes, an argument from ignorance, materialism might turn out to be true, but the same goes for theism.
Btw, this should really be discussed in the PD section.
 
rwenzori said:
I'm thinking FSM in this case. All these long noodly Carbon chains point strongly to SLE - Spaghetti-Loaded-Evolution. What is a Carbon nanotube if not a noodle???
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Absolutely.

FSM inserted a noodlly appendage into the human genome and squirted the retrovirus in.
 
alloytoo said:
Any more goal posts to change?

You're truly pathetic today.
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Goal-posts changing? ROFL! At least now you understand the function of the protein. Yes, it has an important function. Phew, moving along.
 
I wasn't making any argument for materialism. straw man identified.

and this whole thread should not be in science. which was my point. thank you for confirming it for me.

Now. Please show how I made an argument from ignorance or retract. are you capable of such? I very much doubt it. Prove me wrong.
 
cyghost said:
I wasn't making any argument for materialism. straw man identified.

and this whole thread should not be in science. which was my point. thank you for confirming it for me.

Now. Please show how I made an argument from ignorance or retract. are you capable of such? I very much doubt it. Prove me wrong.
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I'll go out on a limb and say evidence says he can't (not honestly anyway).

Whats you opinion on FSM insertions.
 
Phronesis said:
Uhm, you are arguing there is no scientific evidence for the existence of God. There is also no evidence to say materialism is true. Theism requires materialism to be false. Yes, an argument from ignorance, materialism might turn out to be true, but the same goes for theism.
Btw, this should really be discussed in the PD section.
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And what has that got to do with the debate on your claims? Show us Jesus! We wanna SEE JESUS working those ERVs!!! PTL!! PTL!!
 
cyghost said:
I wasn't making any argument for materialism. straw man identified.

and this whole thread should not be in science. which was my point. thank you for confirming it for me.

Now. Please show how I made an argument from ignorance or retract. are you capable of such? I very much doubt it. Prove me wrong.
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No scientific evidence for God? Saying we won't find any? If not, why even mention it in the science section? Go drag another thread doen to your level mmkay. Talk science if you can. Waiting....

Let's start with the hedgehog gene shall we? Come now, I am trying to keep this thread on track, all you are doing is dragging it down to your level.
Come old chap, talk science ;).
 
Phronesis said:
Let's start with the hedgehog gene shall we? Come now, I am trying to keep this thread on track, all you are doing is dragging it down to your level.
Come old chap, talk science ;).
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So god now = basic chemistry? God-loaded-evolution = chemistry-loaded-evolution? I could go with that ( if the FSM doesn't mind ).
 
alloytoo said:
I'll go out on a limb and say evidence says he can't (not honestly anyway).
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like claymore mentioned, I have faith in my fellow man. god knows why?
Whats you opinion on FSM insertions.
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as likely as yhwh insertions?

I mean lets take what cerebus have been saying, this is all god's plan, All 14 billion of years of it. (this thread needs to be in PD anyways so why not?)

and we are the pinnacle of the creation. here, in one petite corner of a very vast universe, *this* is what it is all about.

So we can kill and hurt and destroy and deny others to say what they want for a brief span of time.

that idea is beyond ridiculous. I'll embrace the FSM before accepting such utterly stupid notions. ever again.
 
ROFL, what does this have to do with preadaptations? You guys are purposefully dragging this thread down to a PD-type discussion.
Do you guys really hate talking about science, or are you just plainly incapable?
Please go to the PD-section were you can spread your credulity...
 
Phronesis said:
No scientific evidence for God?
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Indeed. Prove this was an argument from ignorance for that is what you said.
Saying we won't find any?
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Didn't say this. Words in my mouth = straw man. Like alloytoo remarked, you seem weak tonight.
If not, why even mention it in the science section? Go drag another thread doen to your level mmkay. Talk science if you can. Waiting....
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You dragged this down to "PD" level. PD is too good for this ****e.
Let's start with the hedgehog gene shall we? Come now, I am trying to keep this thread on track, all you are doing is dragging it down to your level.
Come old chap, talk science ;).
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You had your chance.

Prove I made an argument from ignorance or retract. Then we can see if this needs to stay here or not. Currently I am voting PD PD PD.

And that is an admission of sorts. It doesn't even belong in the PD section really.
 
Phronesis said:
ROFL, what does this have to do with preadaptations? You guys are purposefully dragging this thread down to a PD-type discussion.
Do you guys really hate talking about science, or are you just plainly incapable?
Please go to the PD-section were you can spread your credulity...
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see above. you did this. your dishonest tactics. I have had enough. I will spam this thread with valid criticism until such time it is in the PD section and then allow you to continue your trash there. It is after all the trash heap of the forum.

And then I'll do the same to the Bio molecular thread.
 
cyghost said:
Indeed. Prove this was an argument from ignorance for that is what you said.
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It is the same type of argument from ignorance you accuse others of making:
E.g. There is no evidence that life can come from non-life through self-organization.

So what, some day we might discover a mechanism. It is till an argument from ignorance, and you make exactly the same mistake by saying there is no scientific evidence for the existence of God. So what, some day there might be bona fide scientific evidence for the existence of God. Btw, what would you consider it to be?
 
Phronesis said:
It is the same type of argument from ignorance you accuse others of making:
E.g. There is no evidence that life can come from non-life through self-organization.
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I made no argument that life came from non-life. I said what I said,

Prove this was an argument form ignorance or retract.
So what, some day we might discover a mechanism. It is till an argument from ignorance, and you make exactly the same mistake by saying there is no scientific evidence for the existence of God. So what, some day there might be bona fide scientific evidence for the existence of God. Btw, what would you consider it to be?
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No it is not. Prove it!!!!! Stop asserting it.

I'll answer your question in the PD section under DJK's thread which I seemed to have missed.
 
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