Preadaptations

[cyghost]

I did not say you did. READ!

You have a hard time explaining yourself whenever pressed eh?

This reinforces my thoughts on your cut and pasting jobbies. hmmmmm

Please explain how the argument I made in *this* thread, which you quoted and accused me of making an argument form ignorance, is an argument from ignorance or retract.

I am willing to do the same where ever I have accused you of the same and will retract immediately and without reservations if I do not succeed in making my case. I do not argue from ignorance. I commit a whole lot of fallacies but hardly this one. You are the unrequited master here.

 

[antowan]

/me lurks

 

[BTTB]

/me lurks

/me 2

 

[antowan]

This is a crap load of reading to go through you guys! DAMNIT!!!!

 

[antowan]

/me 2

I will take the first bit and you take the last bit?

 

[Phronesis]

You have a hard time explaining yourself whenever pressed eh?

This reinforces my thoughts on your cut and pasting jobbies. hmmmmm

Please explain how the argument I made in *this* thread, which you quoted and accused me of making an argument form ignorance, is an argument from ignorance or retract.

I am willing to do the same where ever I have accused you of the same and will retract immediately and without reservations if I do not succeed in making my case. I do not argue from ignorance. I commit a whole lot of fallacies but hardly this one. You are the unrequited master here.

ROFL, too much wine? Enough said...

 

[antowan]

Well at least you all didn't get personal.

 

[cyghost]

It is so easy when you think you have this out? Sadly as illustrated before, my arguments rest on their own laurels and not on my ability under the influence. I am such a genius that I outdrink *and* outargue you with both hands tied behind my back.



do note, dear mods, that until my opponent has deemed to resort to accuse me of being a drunk instead of taking me on in my arguements as they stand, I have played fairly. Now I'll resort to the same add homms he regurgitates and have to do so in various threads. It is tiresome but I have time before I leave.

Please have it in your hearts on re-reading all of this to see my point (and those of others) and to move it to its proper place. Which I assure you in all honesty, is not the science sub forum. I thank you for your time.

 

[cyghost]

Well at least you all didn't get personal.

we are about to unless you stop him from accusing me of argument from drunkeness

a formal fallacy I deplore and will stand up with great vehemence

 

[Phronesis]

It is so easy when you think you have this out? Sadly as illustrated before, my arguments rest on their own laurels and not on my ability under the influence. I am such a genius that I outdrink *and* outargue you with both hands tied behind my back.

I think you have said enough .

Preadaptations have been discussed in other science forums. This is the only place where the same 3 musketeers subvert discussion to their level.
Here
here
here

Same goes for biomolecular machines .

 

[cyghost]

i think you have said enough .

never!

Preadaptations have been discussed in other science forums. This is the only place where the same 3 musketeers subvert discussion to their level.
Here
here
here

Same goes for biomolecular machines .

preadaptions I have as little problem with as biomolecular machines.

What I do have a problem with is your misapplying of the terms and pushing your ridiculous agenda. I had little care and have only objected to your front loaded thread before, allowing you a free hand.

I will not be quiet any more.


These threads however need to be in the correct sub forum for us to discus it properly. I am sure with the metaphysical connotations you adhere to and proliferate you will agree that it serves everyone's best interests to have this discarded to the PD section.

yours in science

 

[Phronesis]

I am sorry, but who are you tell others what science discussions should be about? You rarely discuss science, yet you want to tell others what to discuss?

 

[cyghost]

yep. you want to tell others what to post, when to post how to post and have no problem with censuring a whole sub-forum which has been known to criticise your delusions.

Were you to have said you fully support the freedom of speech inherited in arguing for and against religion, I'd have regained some respect for you. as it is, I have no reason whatsoever to tolerate you or your nonsense. Never again.

I now take it upon myself to tell others when things are science and when they are not. Learn to live with it.

That is my function and so I shall be.

 

[Phronesis]

So this is not actually about science because I can't find a single post in this thread were you actually discuss preadaptations (could you perhaps show at least one post?). Do you just want to get personal? Is this what it is all about?

 

[rwenzori]

Why are you lurking mods deleting my question about the FSM starting the evolutionary process? Do you not understand the implication?

 

[cyghost]

nothing personal - you do not deserve personal.

this is about what is science and what is not science

cute cut and paste jobbies with a hidden agenda is not science. I suggest you stop doing it.

You stand exposed - your frontloaded evolution thread was easily disposed off.

You have shown yourself to be dishonest with these things. I will no longer by inaction condone your polluting of a honest science forum.

close down the PD section. but discard all non science as well is my motto now.

I'll happily discuss science with you the day you actually present science for science sake, I am not holding my breath.

do note that you started the current round of add homms by accusing me of drunkenness. You dig your own grave as they say. I have no problem with chucking a few gravels of ground back over your corpse. You deserve such in my opinion.

 

[cyghost]

hey mods, please do not delete FSM references. They are highly appropriate in this thread and while I agree that they are not scientific, neither is this thread.

 

[Phronesis]

I guess you don't even read the posts .

 

[cyghost]

no I do. its my one talent I received - reading with comprehension. never going to make me a rich man, but at least I'll tell God I used it, didn't bank it, didn't bury it.

 

[rwenzori]

It is the same type of argument from ignorance you accuse others of making:
E.g. There is no evidence that life can come from non-life through self-organization.

So what, some day we might discover a mechanism. It is till an argument from ignorance, and you make exactly the same mistake by saying there is no scientific evidence for the existence of God. So what, some day there might be bona fide scientific evidence for the existence of God. Btw, what would you consider it to be?

Seeing as my question keeps getting clobbered, let me spell it out. To deny that life began by the insertion of noodly genetic material into primordial soup, is as much of an argument from ignorance as to claim that a christian god did it. None of us know, scientifically, how life began, so any claim about how it began is as true or as false as any other. Science at least admits not to know. Yet.