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Freshy-ZN said:
we could 'nuke' telkom HQ and blame america or iran
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we could 'nuke' telkom HQ and blame america or iran
nocilah
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Freshy-ZN said:
I am highly interested wether Iran are being honest in saying that they just want to develop alternative fuels.
I do understand the suspicious around a country wanting to develop alternate fuel resources when they sitting on a whole bunch of oil.
My final view point is America need to chill out and take a back seat and let the UN sort this out diplomatically.
Before we can even start entertaining this issue we must debate why is there no big fuss about USA, France, Britain, China, Israel etc having nuclear weapons which are not even in development but ready for deployment.halicon said:
This might provide a bit of background. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_TreatyAngelo said:
Angelo said:
You ask why is there no fuss about USA, France, Britain, China, Israel, having the bomb, it simple really, unlike them r@gheads, these countries are not crazy. I mean think about it, they encourage their young peeps to blow themselves up, that is way f #ckedup.
Did you read the article? Notice the long list of countries at the end that are signatories of the NPT?Angelo said:
Anyhow, the NPT had little to do with the invasion of Iraq.
BTW the following countries supported the US position on Iraq:
Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, Costa Rica, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Latvia, Lithuania, Republic of Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Mongolia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Palau, Panama, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Rwanda, Singapore, Slovakia, South Korea, Spain, Tonga, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, and Uzbekistan.
So it was hardly defying the world. Still, thats for another debate.
Vox Populi Vox Dei
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Highflyer_GP said:
As already pointed out, Iran is an extremist nation who have a high chance of using nukes even though they're unprovoked. The US hasn't used a nuke for over half a century. People are having an irrational fear of the US using nukes when unprovoked. I mean if the US really wanted to use nukes, they could've bombed the Soviet Union.
Where do you get the "all the oil goes to America". Yes American companies will get the contracts but that's better than the possibility of Middle-Eastern countries cutting off oil completely and making prices skyrocket.
Now this is crazy
Nazis, Arabs planned Final Solution for pre-state Israel
New study: Special SS squad formed for Jews of 'Palestine'
By Stan Goodenough
April 10th, 2006
Nazi Germans responding to the pleas of Palestinian Arabs planned to open up a "branch" of the Holocaust in the Land of Israel and exterminate the half-a-million Jews then living in the land in line with Adolph Hitler's plan to rid mankind of its "Jewish problem."
According to reports carried in the Israeli press over the weekend, a new study by two German historians has revealed that in 1942 the Nazis created a special SS force - one of its mobile death squads known as "Einsatzgruppe" - tasked to do to the Jews in British-mandated Palestine what was being done to them in Poland and other parts of Europe.
Called the "Einsatzgruppe Egypt," this Jew-killing force was formed shortly after "Palestinian" leader Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, personally visited Hitler in Berlin and offered the services of his people to the cause of the Third Reich.
By then nationalism was burgeoning among the Arabs of Palestine who -- motivated by their religious beliefs which taught hatred of the Jews and rejection of Jewish sovereignty over any territory previously under Islamic rule -- were despairing of their own efforts to prevent the rebirth of the Jewish state.
For them, the rise of Nazi Germany was an answer to their daily prayers for help from "Allah and the Prophet."
Two years earlier al-Husseini messaged Hitler to congratulate him:
"...on the occasion of [your] great political and military triumphs....The Arab nation everywhere feels the greatest joy and deepest gratification on the occasion of these great successes.... The Arab people...confidently expect the result of your final victory will be their independence and complete liberation.... [T]hey will [then] be linked to your country by a treaty of friendship and collaboration."
In late 1941 al-Husseini arrived in Mussolini's Rome and, after conversing with Il Duce and the Fuhrer, got the Fascist and Nazi leaders to make a joint pronouncement committing their nations to helping in "the elimination of the Jewish national home in Palestine."
Follow-up meetings between the Mufti and Hitler found an understanding, according to the American historian Howard M. Sachar, whereby Hitler's forces would invade Palestine with the goal being "not the occupation of the Arab lands but solely the destruction of Palestine Jewry."
According to a report in Ynetnews Saturday, "the director of the Nazi research centre in Ludwigsburg, Klaus-Michael Mallman, and Berlin historian Martin Cueppers say an Einsatzgruppe was all set to go to Palestine and begin killing the roughly half-a-million Jews that had fled Europe to escape Nazi death camps like Auschwitz and Birkenau."
This special death squad led by Obersturmbannfuehrer Walther Rauff was attached to Rommel's Africa Korps and was waiting in Athens for the British to be driven from the Levant.
Wrote Mallman and Cueppers: "The central plan for the group was the realisation of the Holocaust in Palestine."
Though he may never have realized the wider impact of his actions, the great British general Bernard Montgomery saved the Jews of Palestine when he hurled Rommel's forces back at El Alamein.
The "Einsatzgruppe Egypt" never left Athens.
It was the beginning of the end for Hitler, who saw his primary calling and mission as being to "cleanse" the world, not just Europe, but of all Jews.
His efforts to do so were facilitated by the centuries of Christian Judenhaas that preceded him, and notably by the teachings of the great reformer Martin Luther, to whose antisemitic railings Hitler appealed as he sought to justify the genocide of European Jewry.
Even as he saw defeat coming, the Nazi leader frantically increased the efforts to realize his goal. His Einsatzgruppe were ultimately responsible, by their own admission, for killing one million of Hitler's six million Jewish victims.
Much to the vexation of al-Husseini and his followers, they did not get to the Jews of Palestine. Nonetheless, the same hatred and religious fervor that drove the Mufti to applaud Hitler and seek to collaborate in his final solution persists in the Arab world today.
"The only thing we have against Hitler," wrote popular Egyptian columnist Anis Mansour a number of years ago, "is that he did not finish with the Jews."
If they had the idea then,dont they still have it?
Nazis, Arabs planned Final Solution for pre-state Israel
New study: Special SS squad formed for Jews of 'Palestine'
By Stan Goodenough
April 10th, 2006
Nazi Germans responding to the pleas of Palestinian Arabs planned to open up a "branch" of the Holocaust in the Land of Israel and exterminate the half-a-million Jews then living in the land in line with Adolph Hitler's plan to rid mankind of its "Jewish problem."
According to reports carried in the Israeli press over the weekend, a new study by two German historians has revealed that in 1942 the Nazis created a special SS force - one of its mobile death squads known as "Einsatzgruppe" - tasked to do to the Jews in British-mandated Palestine what was being done to them in Poland and other parts of Europe.
Called the "Einsatzgruppe Egypt," this Jew-killing force was formed shortly after "Palestinian" leader Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, personally visited Hitler in Berlin and offered the services of his people to the cause of the Third Reich.
By then nationalism was burgeoning among the Arabs of Palestine who -- motivated by their religious beliefs which taught hatred of the Jews and rejection of Jewish sovereignty over any territory previously under Islamic rule -- were despairing of their own efforts to prevent the rebirth of the Jewish state.
For them, the rise of Nazi Germany was an answer to their daily prayers for help from "Allah and the Prophet."
Two years earlier al-Husseini messaged Hitler to congratulate him:
"...on the occasion of [your] great political and military triumphs....The Arab nation everywhere feels the greatest joy and deepest gratification on the occasion of these great successes.... The Arab people...confidently expect the result of your final victory will be their independence and complete liberation.... [T]hey will [then] be linked to your country by a treaty of friendship and collaboration."
In late 1941 al-Husseini arrived in Mussolini's Rome and, after conversing with Il Duce and the Fuhrer, got the Fascist and Nazi leaders to make a joint pronouncement committing their nations to helping in "the elimination of the Jewish national home in Palestine."
Follow-up meetings between the Mufti and Hitler found an understanding, according to the American historian Howard M. Sachar, whereby Hitler's forces would invade Palestine with the goal being "not the occupation of the Arab lands but solely the destruction of Palestine Jewry."
According to a report in Ynetnews Saturday, "the director of the Nazi research centre in Ludwigsburg, Klaus-Michael Mallman, and Berlin historian Martin Cueppers say an Einsatzgruppe was all set to go to Palestine and begin killing the roughly half-a-million Jews that had fled Europe to escape Nazi death camps like Auschwitz and Birkenau."
This special death squad led by Obersturmbannfuehrer Walther Rauff was attached to Rommel's Africa Korps and was waiting in Athens for the British to be driven from the Levant.
Wrote Mallman and Cueppers: "The central plan for the group was the realisation of the Holocaust in Palestine."
Though he may never have realized the wider impact of his actions, the great British general Bernard Montgomery saved the Jews of Palestine when he hurled Rommel's forces back at El Alamein.
The "Einsatzgruppe Egypt" never left Athens.
It was the beginning of the end for Hitler, who saw his primary calling and mission as being to "cleanse" the world, not just Europe, but of all Jews.
His efforts to do so were facilitated by the centuries of Christian Judenhaas that preceded him, and notably by the teachings of the great reformer Martin Luther, to whose antisemitic railings Hitler appealed as he sought to justify the genocide of European Jewry.
Even as he saw defeat coming, the Nazi leader frantically increased the efforts to realize his goal. His Einsatzgruppe were ultimately responsible, by their own admission, for killing one million of Hitler's six million Jewish victims.
Much to the vexation of al-Husseini and his followers, they did not get to the Jews of Palestine. Nonetheless, the same hatred and religious fervor that drove the Mufti to applaud Hitler and seek to collaborate in his final solution persists in the Arab world today.
"The only thing we have against Hitler," wrote popular Egyptian columnist Anis Mansour a number of years ago, "is that he did not finish with the Jews."
If they had the idea then,dont they still have it?
Gooku
Senior Member
Nuclear weapon
- takes the collective ingenuity of the entire nation to build it
yet
It takes the same amount of stupidity to use it. - Gooku 2006
edited to make more sense in current situation ........
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Super Saiyan 1 transformation totally completed, gooku > Gooku
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- takes the collective ingenuity of the entire nation to build it
yet
It takes the same amount of stupidity to use it. - Gooku 2006
edited to make more sense in current situation ........
_________________________________________________
DBZ fans
Super Saiyan 1 transformation totally completed, gooku > Gooku
I am now a hair-standing-up-blond (when I fight)
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daysleeper
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i wish iran would use their nuclear weapons on telkom!
nocilah
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America is angry
"yeeehaw!" said the cowboy as it shot the indian in the back in self defense.
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1920624,00.html
"yeeehaw!" said the cowboy as it shot the indian in the back in self defense.
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1920624,00.html