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[OUPA]MrNutz

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Hey peeps...

I'm gonna be honest - i have NO idea what to use :)

Customer X has got 25 pcs. They are running a natted setup behind a cisco router using 512k silver leased line from telkom (can't get adsl,3g,wimax).

Now - telkom doesn't allow relaying >256kb email size for leased lines>256kb.

So now i have to help them to get their own smtp going.

Where do i start? do i need to go register a domain name somewhere? mx records? those type of info.

Something that can act as a LAN and INTERNET SMTP server.

They currently have their email with another provider.

If there is another SMTP server/service that can be used for this i'd appreciate some help.
 
If I read this right, then you would need to set up a domain for them, along with MX records. Since the line will be static address, you can have a SMTP server running there for the client, and the MX will point there.

As for outgoing, it should therefore bypass that restriction on mail size.

Some servers I can think of Mercury Mail Server, hmail, MDaemon. These are for the more small type business. You could even use Windows 2003 server, as it has everything you would need, including a POP3 server for internal mail. Rudimentary but will work.
 
Into the wild unknown i go :)

Thx for info...

It just doesn't make sence why saix doesn't want them do increase the size to something bigger like 5mb per email transfer...

Adsl/isdn/56k users are not limited...so why must leased line customers be...

sigh
 
[OUPA]MrNutz;2502155 said:
Hey peeps...

I'm gonna be honest - i have NO idea what to use :)

Customer X has got 25 pcs. They are running a natted setup behind a cisco router using 512k silver leased line from telkom (can't get adsl,3g,wimax).

Now - telkom doesn't allow relaying >256kb email size for leased lines>256kb.

So now i have to help them to get their own smtp going.

Where do i start? do i need to go register a domain name somewhere? mx records? those type of info.

Something that can act as a LAN and INTERNET SMTP server.

They currently have their email with another provider.

If there is another SMTP server/service that can be used for this i'd appreciate some help.
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Are you sure they only allow 256, I've relayed at least 5 MB with a leased line?
 
smtp admin @ saix's new rules apparently for new customers - if line is > 256kb attachment size is max 256kb.....

one of the employees confirmed that aswell.

sad service delivery at best imho! now to go fork out cash for server/mail software and either get a guru or spend entire weekend or 2 to get this going.

saix ftl!!!!
 
Let's try an easy way.

You've got two options. Create a Gmail account for the company and use Gmail as the smtp server. You will need to configure each mail account seperately, but you can use one Gmail account to achieve this:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/tonyhughes/599

Second option:
http://www.postcastserver.com/

Install and configure Postcast on the "server", which can be a normal pc as well. In each mail account, configure the smtp server to point the Hostname of the server (computer name) or the IP address of the server.

Let me know if it works.

Edit: postcast server's download link doesn't work, use this one: http://www.download.com/PostCast-Server-Free-Edition/3000-2369_4-10063049.html
 
sudo apt-get install postfix
dpkg-reconfigure postfix

and voila a fully working smtp server on ubuntu.
 
Kloon said:
sudo apt-get install postfix
dpkg-reconfigure postfix

and voila a fully working smtp server on ubuntu.
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+1

But I would go the gmail route or register a domain. At our office we switched from a mail server to gmail as we just found it more convenient. What we do is forward all our [email protected] to [email protected].

I have even done it for my wifes business and my personal mail.

The only problem with using gmail for SMTP is that many corps now block mails originating from gmail. As a work around I use my hosting company for SMTP and forward my incoming mail to Gmail.

Gmail also offers a paid service for corps.
 
Its as simple as using the default SMTP server in IIS.There's virtually no configuration required on the default SMTP server.Just need to route mail out using DNS , and then point all the workstations to use the SMTP server.
 
ok so if i've got this right:

domain registration - xxx.co.za ...and let them point xxx.co.za to 196.25.x.x where the internal smtp server is. (mx record) externally.

then internally just use either iis/postfix and point internal clients to smtp.

just then have to figure out how mail internally knows to use the smtp to go outside to the web.
 
Setup either ClarkConnect - or use Google Apps with your new domain, OR use Google Apps with your new domain and Clark Connect.

Clark Connect just makes this type of thing simple. Internal / External email etc.
 
[OUPA]MrNutz;2503307 said:
ok so if i've got this right:

domain registration - xxx.co.za ...and let them point xxx.co.za to 196.25.x.x where the internal smtp server is. (mx record) externally.

then internally just use either iis/postfix and point internal clients to smtp.

just then have to figure out how mail internally knows to use the smtp to go outside to the web.
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I believe there is no need to register a domain or create mx records for a smtp server. SMTP just sends out mail.
 
Customer X should get a proper win 2003 server with DC and Exchange. Exchange can pop mail from wherever and exchange can use dns for email sending. No problem with internal sending either.
 
dabouncer said:
Customer X should get a proper win 2003 server with DC and Exchange. Exchange can pop mail from wherever and exchange can use dns for email sending. No problem with internal sending either.
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Exchange can only download POP mails if you use a 3rd party downloader. Apparently the Small Business Edition has one built in.

Exchange is wonderful, but I can't help but wonder if it's overkill for such a small environment.

@ Kloon

While you don't need to have an official internet domain per se for using SMTP, it makes things very difficult, as the mail is more likely to be labelled as spam. Also, you do need MX records if you host your mail server yourself, as the rest of the world needs to know how to get to your server(s). If the mail is hosted by an ISP, MX records are still needed, but they point to the ISP's mailbox.

I have read that if there are no MX records, mail can still be sent, as the SMTP server falls back on using some DNS magic, but it can be problematic. It's not recommended to run a server like that.
 
Setup a proper mail server on that leased line. It should have a permanent IP to run services on. This is basic networking 101...
 
[OUPA]MrNutz please read my post and you will have an smtp server up and running in no time.Dont get bogged down by mx records, setting up exchange , domains etc.If you want an easy smtp server use the default IIS ssmtp server.
 
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