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Here is something interesting; it is a speech by Guy Lundy of Dimension Data Business Solutions:

Below is a speech I gave the other night. It went down so well with the audience that a number of people asked me for copies of it. So I thought I may as well share it with other people too so they can spread the message,
especially those living overseas and those who care about spreading a positive message about South Africa.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Many years ago I was an exchange student in the USA, and every morning in my school, as in all schools across America, all classes came to a halt as the Pledge of Allegiance came over the loudspeaker system and every student stood to repeat these words.

I was quite amazed by this display of daily brainwashing in so-called "land of the free". But in hindsight it isn't actually that amazing, because we've all experienced how Americans are just so proud to be American. No
matter how big their problems, and heaven knows they've got a lot of them, Americans will still spend hours telling you how fantastic their country is, and in fact, how it is better than, pretty much anywhere else in the world.

What a contrast then, when I later spent a few years in London and I ended up actively avoiding other South Africans. Why? Because frankly their negativity about our homeland irritated me so much! These people who will gladly put new South African flags on their cars and support a whole cottage industry importing biltong and NikNaks to munch on as they cheer on the Springboks at Twickenham, will spend hours telling anyone who will listen just how awful it is in South Africa, how lucky they are to be in London and how they are never going back because it's in such a mess. At the time I put it down to the fact that they were justifying why they were
holed up in their dingy little flats under grey London skies while their friends and family enjoyed the sunshine on Camps Bay beach. However, when I came home, expecting to be greeted by the smiles of new South Africans
everywhere, I was very disappointed to find that exactly the same attitude is pervasive right here. The number of people, who asked me why I came back here and why on earth I had brought my French wife with me, simply amazed me. I would have thought the answer was perfectly obvious.

I was later very disturbed, although not surprised, to hear that our president found it necessary to make a point to South African businessmen that they should stop running down their own country on overseas business trips. Can anyone tell me what it is that makes sense about running down your own home to foreign people that you would like to visit here and invest here?

It seems to me like inviting your boss to dinner at your house in the hope of getting a promotion but discouraging him from coming because you're a terrible cook and your dog bites. Yes, we have problems, but so does everybody else. Sure, the Rand is down the toilet, but if you look closely enough, you'll see that just about every other emerging market country has suffered from the same woes - and that includes Australia and New Zealand,
which everyone seems in such a rush to get to. And aren't we lucky that we aren't living in Argentina with their currency crisis? Sure, our neighbour, Zimbabwe, is run by a mad, despotic fool, but man am I glad that I'm not a
Pakistani. We have AIDS and we also have an army of people trying to find a cure for it * possibly more vigorously than anywhere else since we have the most to lose from it. We do have corruption, and the Americans have George W. Bush, whether they like it or not. We've got all sorts of problems, yes, but must we be so hard on ourselves? In many ways we are far better off in South Africa as a whole than we have been at any time in our history.

Our people are getting educated and housed at a world-beating rate, we have amongst the world's cheapest electricity, our inflation is the lowest it's been in my lifetime, we have an economic growth rate and there is development everywhere you look.

We have so much going for us; we have so many good people, such an interesting mix of cultures; we have so much beautiful countryside and natural resources that we can draw from - we really have such a bright future ahead of us. Let us concentrate on the positive things that surround us every day, the sunshine, the people, the beauty, and the progress. Constantly criticising our country can only do harm for you personally, your personal feeling of happiness and well-being and for the country that you know from the bottom of your heart that you love, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I implore you, do not run down South Africa, neither at home nor overseas. Become ambassadors for your country. Welcome foreign guests and point out how far we have come and how far we're going to go how they need to watch out for us on the world stage. And if you're overseas on business or holiday (if you can afford it), tell people how much South Africa has going for it and invite them to come and see for themselves.

I have devised my own pledge of allegiance and I'd like to repeat it to you now : "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Republic of South Africa and to the interesting people, places and idiosyncrasies for which it stands, one nation under several religions, languages and cultures, yet indivisible, with freedom, basic needs and progress for all."

That is my pledge of allegiance to my home, our home. I pledge to help others see what is so good about it.
Our Beloved Country!!! South Africa, almost alone amongst emerging market economies, is set to escape virtually unscathed from the latest bout of investor panic sweeping the developing world's fragile economies (The Times, London, August 2001)

The SA banking sector has been consistently ranked in the top 10 in terms of competitiveness (MD, Switzerland). When Nelson Mandela was inaugurated President in 1994, SA was insolvent (liabilities exceeded assets).

Today the Government's deficit is negligible - one of only a handful of countries in this position. We've had single digit inflation since 1993 - following 20 years of double-digit inflation.

Mortgage rates are at their lowest level since 1988. South Africa is one of only 12 countries, where we can drink water from a tap. Our tap water was found to be the 3rd best quality in the entire world.

Remember 15 years ago, in 1986: A state of emergency was declared White men did two years compulsory military service * 64 184 black people were removed from "white areas" * 3989 people were detained without trial * Our economic growth rate was 0.7 percent - today it is 3% * 64 countries had sports boycotts against SA!!!

South African wines win international awards every year and we have the longest wine route in the world. Nelson Mandela, an international icon of forgiveness, tolerance, and humanity is our favourite son. The Kruger Park has the most innovative management of a national park anywhere in the world - and is the world's most profitable game park. Eskom is the largest producer of coal-fired electricity in the world and South Africans pay the least for electricity in the world. South African Breweries is the 4th largest brewer in the world and produces over 50% of China's beer!

Mercedes Benz C Class, BMW 3 Series and VW Golf/Jetta vehicles for all right-hand drive markets throughout the world are produced in South Africa. Didata grew from a local IT service provider into a huge, global networking company with branches in 30 countries. The Cape Peninsula has more species
of plants here per hectare than any other area of the world.

Magnificent highways, warm, friendly, vibrant rainbow people! The world's most progressive Constitution Kreepy Kraulies - a South African invention - Mrs Ball's chutney and biltong. The world's best looking population.

"For every guy who holds up a gun, there are 99 who hold out a hand of friendship" - Dennis Beckett, journalist.

This is something I've never done, but after reading this, all I ask from you is to send this on, to your friends, family and others. Let us in this way deal with our negatives and let us try to be positive. By being
positive we can continue to go far in life and we can all strive for a better and more positive life and country.

Regards to you all, peace, and positive thinking - that's the way to go!
 
Nice one JK8
We could nitpick an issue or 2 but that is not the point.
I could easily buy into this idea and agree almost wholeheartedly with what Lundy says.
We should all focus on the positives, but at the same time the government 'must' be seen to be addressing the negatives, proactively. We can all make it work, together.
I will pass this on definately.

As for the brainwashing hehe, it wouldnt be the first time for a lot of South Africans, including myself.
 
Nice idea, as Sneeky said though as much as we focus on the positives we mustn't let the government get off on the negatives. I think the main reason people complain so much is they feel powerless to change or influence anything so voicing their concerns is the only power, real of perceived, they have left.
 
Well, if I want to run down South Africa down, Im fully allowed to, even if I actually I love SA, by the ****ing idiots in government that says crime is not a real issue but a perception and is under control makes me just keep saying bad things about SA on various internet forums.

Revenge is a bastard, you lazy denialist government...

Oh, I know how great South Africa is, who here has ever been to Praktiseer, Sekhukhune, Nebo, Jane Furse, Lebowakgomo, Tabanchu, Botshabelo, Phuthaditjaba, Ingwavuma, Msinga, Viljoenskroon, Bothaville, Bultfontein, Koffiefontein?

Nice places, but what the hell does it help if these places are nice and I cant visit them if I am ****ing dead cause some idiot wants my TV or cellphone or car?
 
Well, if I want to run down South Africa down, Im fully allowed to, even if I actually I love SA,

That is a bit of a contradiction, how, can you love something on one hand and run it down on the next?
It reminds me of these guys who sit in bars, and run their wives or girlfriends down saying what cows or bitches they are, but when they get home its "hi honey" , "i love you".
You either love them or dont , and if you dont why are with them anyway.
 
It is always amusing to see how quickly these lets all be positive people change their minds when crime hits close to home.
Lets see if the positive remains when parents gets brutally murdered on a farm or a son gets shot for his car or a wife/daughter gets raped and infected with aids.

Have seen it many times.
 
It is always amusing to see how quickly these lets all be positive people change their minds when crime hits close to home.
It is equally amusing to see how incapable some people are of recognising any of the positives in this country.
They are so blinded by their own hate that they can’t see the forest for the trees.
 
It is equally amusing to see how incapable some people are of recognising any of the positives in this country.
They are so blinded by their own hate that they can’t see the forest for the trees.

Well then please enlighten us. Don't even mention 2010 or the job creation as there are just as much jobs being lost. So please enlighten us.
 
It is equally amusing to see how incapable some people are of recognising any of the positives in this country.
They are so blinded by their own hate that they can’t see the forest for the trees.
That is totally untrue.

Simply put: these are my headlines of the morning, what be yours?

Woman gang raped after night in men's cell
February 17 2007


A woman who was erroneously detained in a male cell at Volksrust police station was raped repeatedly through the night by her fellow inmates, Mpumalanga police spokesperson Captain Leonard Hlathi said on Saturday.

He said police would investigate how she landed up in that cell after having been arrested for being drunk in public.

"A woman may not be placed in a cell with men under any circumstances," he said.

Six men who were in her cell, "taking advantage of her" following her arrest at midnight on Friday, will be charged to rape, said Hlathi.

He added that police had taken the woman to see a doctor, after which she had been released. - Sapa

Oh, but then we have some positive news:

Joburg cops fired after orgy allegations February 17 2007

Two metro cops who allegedly used a cellphone to film an orgy with a 16-year-old Eldorado Park schoolgirl have been fired, the early edition of the Saturday Star said on Friday.

Metro's director of operations, David Thembe, said Vaughn Dooms, 22, and Kester de Vos, 24, were dismissed on Wednesday for bringing the City of Johannesburg into disrepute.

Please show me the positive.

Oh and then we have:

I am no drama queen, says Mbeki
"There will be no empty theatrical gestures, no prancing on the stage and no flagellation, but we will continue to act against crime, as decisively as we have sought to do throughout the years of our liberation. From us, from the government, will be issued no words that are lightly spoken."

All without looking. But everything's spiffy!

Pleaze! :mad:

And there seems to be an attitude in this country that history started in 1994. Denialism, obfuscation, and lies. The order of the day. But let's be [-]positive[/-] oops, carefull with that word positive, it could just mean something else. In our warzone without end, suffering racist legislation (even though we voted to get rid of exactly that.) With an out of control police force (re: above) but now we are going to get more of them! Oh, better days!

Sick. Shall I go on?

Yes but I love the country. Exactly why I don't want to see the above (and I'm not asking for censorship, the next step of this government) while they change all the names but still have built no houses (FEW!!) "We will do away with the drop system," yah, right. This government is one big "drop system," a drop in the ocean, unnoticed, uncared. 50 a day. 150 a day. 800 a day. But everything's just spiffy!

Oh please get on an aeroplane and go tell America!!

:mad:
 
It is equally amusing to see how incapable some people are of recognising any of the positives in this country.
They are so blinded by their own hate that they can’t see the forest for the trees.

If you are dead how are you supposed to enjoy these positives? :confused:
 
Positive ? Oh Yeah !

It is equally amusing to see how incapable some people are of recognising any of the positives in this country.
They are so blinded by their own hate that they can’t see the forest for the trees.

I really have a problem with people introducing positives as though they some how "dilute" the serious problems that we have in our country. Sure we have scenic beauty, great diversity, fantastic food etc etc (Just look at a travel agents document about SA and it sounds like paradise) BUT -- How do all these positives mean ANYTHING when we all are all cooped up behind 6Ft walls, too afraid to venture out?

I am often accused by my friends and colleagues that I "bad mouth" SA -- This may be true, but the only things I am ever seriously critical about is the manner in which the government is running MY country into the ground.

The sole function of a government is to provide only 4 things to a country's populace -- Infrastructure, security, health and education -- This is not my idea, Aristotle came up with this theory a little while ago -- Consider the ANC's scorecard on any of these issues ? What positives can any bright eyed little liberal offer on behalf of our country with respect to these issues?

I may be looking at the situation very selfishly, but as a white SA male who was sent to the army, spent two years being fed "volk and vaderland" bull, told a little while later that it was all wrong, got retrenched so as to improve the "racial profile" of the company I worked for, and a few months ago had a bastard hold a gun to my head whilst he whispered things like "Whitey, this is my Africa", whilst he stole everything I had on me -- Yeah I am seriously positive about this country.

But, Table Mountain sure does look pretty at sunset...............

PS : I wonder which overseas country Guy Lundy has some of his money stashed
 
(and I'm not asking for censorship, the next step of this government)

Censorship has happened whether you asked or not.
What do you call a gag placed on crime stats?

Toesmeerdery is the Afrikaans, it translates to cover-up:mad:
 
Pledge of allegiance to South Africa

Got this via e-mail, makes for quite a good read:

Here is something interesting; it is a speech by Guy Lundy of Dimension Data Business Solutions:

Below is a speech I gave the other night. It went down so well with the audience that a number of people asked me for copies of it. So I thought Imay as well share it with other people too so they can spread the message, especially those living overseas and those who care about spreading a positive message about South Africa.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Many years ago I was an exchange student in the USA, and every morning in my school, as in all schools across America, all classes came to a halt as the Pledge of Allegiance came over the loudspeaker system and every student stood to repeat these words. I was quite amazed by this display of daily brainwashing in so-called "land of the free". But in hindsight it isn't actually that amazing, because we've all experienced how Americans are just so proud to be American. No matter how big their problems, and heaven knows they've got a lot of them, Americans will still spend hours telling you how fantastic their country is, and in fact, how it is better than, pretty much anywhere else in the world.

What a contrast then, when I later spent a few years in London and I ended up actively avoiding other South Africans. Why? Because frankly their negativity about our homeland irritated me so much! These people who will gladly put new South African flags on their cars and support a whole cottage industry importing biltong and NikNaks to munch on as they cheer on the Springboks at Twickenham, will spend hours telling anyone who will listen just how awful it is in South Africa, how lucky they are to be in London and how they are never going back because it's in such a mess. At the time I put it down to the fact that they were justifying why they were holed up in their dingy little flats under grey London skies while their friends and family enjoyed the sunshine on Camps Bay beach. However, when I came home, expecting to be greeted by the smiles of new South Africans everywhere, I was very disappointed to find that exactly the same attitude is pervasive right here. The number of people, who asked me why I came back here and why on earth I had brought my French wife with me, simply amazed me. I would have thought the answer was perfectly obvious.

I was later very disturbed, although not surprised, to hear that our president found it necessary to make a point to South African businessmen that they should stop running down their own country on overseas business trips. Can anyone tell me what it is that makes sense about running down your own home to foreign people that you would like to visit here and invest here?

It seems to me like inviting your boss to dinner at your house in the hope of getting a promotion but discouraging him from coming because you're a terrible cook and your dog bites. Yes, we have problems, but so does everybody else. Sure, the Rand is down the toilet, but if you look closely enough, you'll see that just about every other emerging market country has suffered from the same woes - and that includes Australia and New Zealand, which everyone seems in such a rush to get to. And aren't we lucky that we aren't living in Argentina with their currency crisis? Sure, our neighbour, Zimbabwe, is run by a mad, despotic fool, but man am I glad that I'm not a Pakistani. We have AIDS and we also have an army of people trying to find a cure for it * possibly more vigorously than anywhere else since we have the most to lose from it. We do have corruption, and the Americans have George W. Bush, whether they like it or not. We've got all sorts of problems, yes, but must we be so hard on ourselves? In many ways we are far better off in South Africa as a whole than we have been at any time in our history.

Our people are getting educated and housed at a world-beating rate, we have amongst the world's cheapest electricity, our inflation is the lowest it's been in my lifetime, we have an economic growth rate and there is development everywhere you look.

We have so much going for us; we have so many good people, such an interesting mix of cultures; we have so much beautiful countryside and natural resources that we can draw from - we really have such a bright future ahead of us. Let us concentrate on the positive things that surround us every day, the sunshine, the people, the beauty, and the progress.
Constantly criticising our country can only do harm for you personally, your personal feeling of happiness and well-being and for the country that you know from the bottom of your heart that you love, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I implore you, do not run down South Africa, neither at home nor overseas. Become ambassadors for your country. Welcome foreign guests and point out how far we have come and how far we're going to go how they need to watch out for us on the world stage. And if you're overseas on business or holiday (if you can afford it), tell people how much South Africa has going for it and invite them to come and see for themselves.

I have devised my own pledge of allegiance and I'd like to repeat it to you now : "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Republic of South Africa and to the interesting people, places and idiosyncrasies for which it stands, one nation under several religions, languages and cultures, yet indivisible, with freedom, basic needs and progress for all."

That is my pledge of allegiance to my home, our home. I pledge to help others see what is so good about it. Our Beloved Country!!! South Africa, almost alone amongst emerging market economies, is set to escape virtually unscathed from the latest bout of investor panic sweeping the developing world's fragile economies (The Times, London, August 2001)

The SA banking sector has been consistently ranked in the top 10 in terms of competitiveness (MD, Switzerland). When Nelson Mandela was inaugurated President in 1994, SA was insolvent (liabilities exceeded assets).

Today the Government's deficit is negligible - one of only a handful of countries in this position. We've had single digit inflation since 1993 - following 20 years of double-digit inflation.

Mortgage rates are at their lowest level since 1988. South Africa is one of only 12 countries, where we can drink water from a tap. Our tap water was found to be the 3rd best quality in the entire world.

Remember 15 years ago, in 1986: A state of emergency was declared White men did two years compulsory military service * 64 184 black people were removed from "white areas" * 3989 people were detained without trial * Our economic growth rate was 0.7 percent - today it is 3% * 64 countries had sports boycotts against SA!!!

South African wines win international awards every year and we have the longest wine route in the world. Nelson Mandela, an international icon of forgiveness, tolerance, and humanity is our favourite son. The Kruger Park has the most innovative management of a national park anywhere in the world - and is the world's most profitable game park. Eskom is the largest producer of coal-fired electricity in the world and South Africans pay the least for electricity in the world. South African Breweries is the 4th largest brewer in the world and produces over 50% of China's beer!

Mercedes Benz C Class, BMW 3 Series and VW Golf/Jetta vehicles for all right-hand drive markets throughout the world are produced in South Africa.
Didata grew from a local IT service provider into a huge, global networking company with branches in 30 countries. The Cape Peninsula has more species of plants here per hectare than any other area of the world. Magnificent highways, warm, friendly, vibrant rainbow people! The world's most progressive Constitution; Kreepy Kraulies - a South African invention - Mrs Ball's chutney and biltong. The world's best looking population.

"For every guy who holds up a gun, there are 99 who hold out a hand of friendship" - Dennis Beckett, journalist.
 
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